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Sep 9, 2010
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The simmering public stoush between former Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse and Magpies president Eddie McGuire has continued on Melbourne radio on Sunday.

The former coach responded angrily to McGuire saying Malthouse's premiership winning game-plan went from "revolutionary to middle class" in the space of two years in the Sunday Herald Sun.

Malthouse fired back at McGuire on 3AW before saying ...he felt Collingwood players were torn between following new coach Nathan Buckley's game style and his own.

The three-time premiership coach rubbished claims his game-plan was picked apart by opposition teams before the end of 2011.

"Well I don't remember the president being in on the match committee," Malthouse said.

"So he was saying [the game-plan] was too familiar.

"If that's the case, then the [Hawthorn] great John Kennedy had it wrong.

"Predictability is your greatest asset because everyone knows your game structure but you know it better than most.

"If that game-plan was finished then it was finished. If it was no good, I'm sorry we did our best."

Malthouse said he noticed a 'massive difference' in Collingwood's play this season.

"I believe there's been a shift with the game-plan to start with and I think that any coach that comes in to introduce a game-plan is going to have, not resistance, but sometimes uncertainty and an adjustment," he said.

"Nathan Buckley is a strong willed person, he's got his own ideas about how the game should be played, he's playing more corridor and they appear to want less stoppages.

"Secondary stoppages were, I believe, fundamental to our structure.

"There's a different forward line structure, marginally, because it doesn't have, probably, the same intent."

Malthouse touched on one example from Friday night's game against Collingwood, where defender Alan Toovey tried to clear the ball from defence, only to land in the lap of a Carlton player and a resultant goal.

Toovey's former coach suggested he might have been caught in between following the new coach's instructions of trying to bring the ball back through the corridor and old habits during the Malthouse era.

"When players instinctively work to the game structure they've been used to for some time and all of a sudden they have this slight change… [then that] creates uncertainty," he said.

"I watched Alan Toovey under pressure [on Friday night], last year he would have put that ball within inches of the boundary line.

"It's a massive difference in my view to the game structure, that player chose inboard as opposed to boundary."
 
Rubbish, Mcguire. He is a tool. Collingwood won all but three games last year. If clubs worked out how to play Collingwood, why did only one team manage to beat them? I back Mick Malthouse to know a thing or two more about coaching than Eddie.
 

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Both are right and Ed's comments are as usual taken out of the vein they were spoken in. Ed would be reflecting exactly what he hears in the coaching reports and they are right.
 
Well the pressure will really be on if our next month is ordinary. Games over the next 4 weeks we should be a reasonable chance to win, but if we struggle over this period then some questions will be asked.
 
Didn't Malthouse himself admit his gameplan had been figured out at some point last year?
 
bad example by Mick the Toovey one. He wasn't confused he simply panicked and just wanted to get the ball out of his area. That's nothing to do with bad coaching.
 
As wrong as I think Eddie is on this occasion, Mick seriously needs to step the **** back from Collingwood as he currently is coming off as a bitter old prick. Saying shit like he did about Toovey is absolutely atrocious, and he just sounds like a spiteful w***er when he trash talks our games.
 
Rubbish, Mcguire. He is a tool. Collingwood won all but three games last year. If clubs worked out how to play Collingwood, why did only one team manage to beat them? I back Mick Malthouse to know a thing or two more about coaching than Eddie.

The sides who got close enough (within 4 or 5) goals during the season lacked the polish to finish us off. Hawthorn got were knackered and couldn't get the job done. Geelong had the polish and footy smarts to run away in the final.

I think it was Pendles who said that man on man footy worked for two and a half quarters but the players reverted back to elements of the press out of habit. Cue Geelong to hammer us after that. So yes, the gameplan was dissected and dismantled.
 
As wrong as I think Eddie is on this occasion, Mick seriously needs to step the **** back from Collingwood as he currently is coming off as a bitter old prick. Saying shit like he did about Toovey is absolutely atrocious, and he just sounds like a spiteful w***er when he trash talks our games.

I support Eddie, Bucks (and the club) 100%, was really disappointed with Malthouse's attitude last season and he seems to be getting worse.
 

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Both are right and Ed's comments are as usual taken out of the vein they were spoken in. Ed would be reflecting exactly what he hears in the coaching reports and they are right.

Couldn't agree more.

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A message to Mick Malthouse:

You were a great servant to this club.

You did good.

Your legacy is one to be proud of.

There is no need for you to be so insecure.

The club is starting a new era now.

The club is moving on.

The club President is doing his job by clearing the air for the new coach, and by giving him unequivocal support during this inevitable period of teething problems.

What do you expect our club President to say? That the club made a mistake by getting rid of you? That will not happen, no matter the circumstances. Move on.
 
If McGuire stopped making comments about a gameplan that clearly worked last year, mick would stop responding

Seems pretty simple too me.
 
Not sure what your definition of trolling is, Davy. It is a serious question. How did Collingwood end up with one of the best percentages of all time during the home and away season if Mick's game plan was deleteriously predictable? Why did only one club manage to beat them? If Collingwood won the premiership, Eddie would no doubt be saying Collingwood under Malthouse were one of the greatest teams ever, and he would have been relatively justified. But they lost the premiership and now he wants to pan Malthouse's tactics? Simply ridiculous.
 
If McGuire stopped making comments about a gameplan that clearly worked last year, mick would stop responding

Seems pretty simple too me.


Totally agree with you Optimax. Eddie is starting to piss me off big time. Telling supporters to pull their heads in and now the comments about the Malthouse game plan are just stupid. I used to be a big fan of Eddie but now I just don't know. I didn't even watch EMT tonight (watched logies instead :eek:) because I just don't wanna watch Eddies ugly face on tv any more lol.
 
I'm sick of hearing from both of them about it.:thumbsdown:

It's the past, the decision has been made, Bucks is the coach, Mick is nothing now, time to move on.

Do you think any of this is really helping Eddie, do you?:confused::eek:
 
I think Ed's comment ("middle class") was poorly worded and would rightly have riled Malthouse. I also think Malthouse is right and that the players are taking time to adjust to a new gameplan. It would be better if Mick wasn't being drawn on Buckley's coaching and the team's performance all the time, but Ed is to blame with that choice of words in this instance.
 

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Eddie is Scared that he could lose the Presidency over this IF we have a Bad Season

What on earth is bringing in a new president going to achieve???? Is that going to magically heal the three ACL's or all the other injuries we have?

Eddie is literally the best president in the league by that far you can't even begin to explain it yet here's talk of him being shunted out if we have ONE bad season :rolleyes:

At a time where the club needs to regain some stability if this happens I for one will be very pissed off!

FWIW Ed has only made the one comment. So while there is a point to be made about him STFU in some instances, his potting of the supporters that jeered and the game plan were made at the same time. It's just that the backlash has occurred on separate days....
 
What on earth is bringing in a new president going to achieve???? Is that going to magically heal the three ACL's or all the other injuries we have?

Eddie is literally the best president in the league by that far you can't even begin to explain it yet here's talk of him being shunted out if we have ONE bad season :rolleyes:

At a time where the club needs to regain some stability if this happens I for one will be very pissed off!

It's our history, we always over react to failure, and always have. Up until Kevin Rose took over in a caretaker role, and then handed over to Eddie, the Collingwood board in it's history had always been divisive in it's nature.

Just ignore anyone calling for Eddie's head this time, I, like you sincerely hope Eddie and the voting members ignore them too, because Ed is the best choice for the job, there has been no other candidate put forward by the "Eddie haters", and there likely won't be for a while yet.

It's strange after one loss the mantras of "Side by Side" and "It's Us Against Them" have totally disappeared.:cool:
 
If McGuire stopped making comments about a gameplan that clearly worked last year, mick would stop responding

Seems pretty simple too me.

That and continually saying Malthouse was burnt out and lost passion to coach which clearly Malthouse disagrees with.

Besides hes in the media now and is entitled to offer his opinion on aspects of the game, in this case Collingwoods new gameplan etc.

McGuire is only protecting his love child in Bucks. Its getting pretty pathetic now.
 
Malthouse is just starting to look like a bitter old man. Also his in denial if he thinks our game plan wasn't worked out last year. Wasn't he the one who went back to man on man on GF day :confused: Yeah Mick you knew the game plan was figured out by Geelong so stop pretending otherwise.

I'm behind Eddie and Bucks. I had enough of Mick by the end of last year. His the one who started all the shit when he went on the footy show. STFU Mick.
 
we were burnt out by the end of 2011 and I'm sure that the coaching group are aware of this. No doubt the players were flogged over preseason in an attempt to have the cherry ripe for the season's end. All teams are going to have trouble adjusting to a new game plan under a new coach. We may have won a few and lost a few early, but by mid season we may well be flying and running sides off their feet as the plan may be.

Our injuries to key players late in preseason and in the early rounds will no doubt affect our performances. Losing Krak, Ball and Caff for the season this early hurts. Having some of our important and skillfull players have interupted preseasons (Tarrant, Johnson, Mawell, Didak, Brown) and not being there to help settle the team and lead the adjustment of new gameplan also hurts.

I'm banking on us scrapping our way to wins early and then charging home in the second half of the season. We may need results to fall our way to make the top 4 and luck on our side late in the year to get ove rthe line, but it is not all doom and gloom.
 
Malthouse is just starting to look like a bitter old man. Also his in denial if he thinks our game plan wasn't worked out last year. Wasn't he the one who went back to man on man on GF day :confused: Yeah Mick you knew the game plan was figured out by Geelong so stop pretending otherwise.

I'm behind Eddie and Bucks. I had enough of Mick by the end of last year. His the one who started all the shit when he went on the footy show. STFU Mick.

After Reading this:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...nd-final-tickets/story-e6frf9jf-1226327216482


He is one
 

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