Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Run n Spread]

Or just know the people you're in bed with.

I don't get down and dirty with anyone.
Unlike anyone else who accepts anything vaguely trustworthy I don't accept and i
question anything and everything
Good luck accepting anything thrown your way

 

[Kurve]

Biosecurity protocols for nursing homes and hospitals. Increase ICU capacity, diffentiation between those at risk and asymptomatic treatment options research.
Not locking people away

We tried to protect people in nursing homes and hospitals and we couldn't do it without restrictions and before vaccines and I know you know this. You're simply hanging on - by your fingernails - to an ideological position and as if you knew better all along and when we're moving out of the pandemic facing a far more infectious but less severe strain.

I'm not locked away, I can do whatever I like. The game has changed.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Is it true that in Israel you need a second booster to be considered 'vaccinated'?

 

[Chief]

Is it true that in Israel you need a second booster to be considered 'vaccinated'?

Where did you hear that?

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Where did you hear that?

 

[ioppolo]

Israel to roll out fourth dose of COVID vaccine amid first recorded Omicron death

Israel will offer a fourth dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60 amid concern about the worldwide spread of the Omicron variant.

www.abc.net.au

Starting with the vulnerable, it'll work its way through everyone eventually

 

[Gavin Excell]

There was another "freedom" protest in Melb yesterday

Genuinely not sure what they are protesting about.

The let it rip approach they wanted is happening and now we are seeing the consequences with massive covid numbers and the economy grinding to a halt

 

[Run n Spread]

There was another "freedom" protest in Melb yesterday

Genuinely not sure what they are protesting about.

The let it rip approach they wanted is happening and now we are seeing the consequences with massive covid numbers and the economy grinding to a halt

The economy is grinding to a halt because everyone is isolating and getting caught up in testing.
The worse case scenario of all the doomsdayers that we would have 100s of thousands dead and hospitals over flowing into the streets hasn't happened.

 

[Gavin Excell]

The economy is grinding to a halt because everyone is isolating and getting caught up in testing.
The worse case scenario of all the doomsdayers that we would have 100s of thousands dead and hospitals over flowing into the streets hasn't happened.

It's grinding to a halt because people are also actually sick. The virus isn't a pretend thing.

The public is also choosing of their own volition to not go out and about to avoid getting it.

 

[Run n Spread]

Israel to roll out fourth dose of COVID vaccine amid first recorded Omicron death

Israel will offer a fourth dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60 amid concern about the worldwide spread of the Omicron variant.

www.abc.net.au

Starting with the vulnerable, it'll work its way through everyone eventually

Already in the pipeline.
2 weeks to flatten the curve to most locked down city in the world.
No mandatory vaccination to mandatory vaccination
We won't spend 2021 in lockdown to we spent 2021 in lockdown
Once we're vaccinated we will open fully to kids need jabbing to 4 months and boosters

As an aside most doctors aren't treating covid patients. They turn them away only treatment is in hospitals following WHO guidelines.
Look eventually imo this will lead to a permanent social credit passport.
But because this has been politicised and everyone wants to prove how caring they are and not heartless they have attached identify to it and will support every step no matter how out of proportion and how much damage it does.
Look at this thread as an example. Way back it started as people saying wait a minute what are China doing? Why these restrictions and how sick are people somehow asymptomatic all the way through to whacked out 5G theories or a global round up of criminals. (Added to the flavour).
But now it's full of posters protecting the official narrative no matter what.
I said a few posts back. I had a few months off and things are the same. I could come back in 6 months by then we will be at the 12th variant and 5th booster shots, more mandates and the support will be as strong as ever amoung the cultists. They will never say enough or it's time to move on.

 

[Run n Spread]

It's grinding to a halt because people are also actually sick. The virus isn't a pretend thing.

The public is also choosing of their own volition to not go out and about to avoid getting it.

Victoria is now at 50 000 cases a day. In another 10 days we will have 1 million cases. Doctors are not been over run. Hospitals are not turning people into the streets. The over run is at testing centres and people buying RATs.
A case can actually be made to stop testing people who don't need it and concentrate resources on where needed. Enabling doctors and GPs to treat patients and improving ICU and hospital capacity. Something needed in 2019 and I would've thought would be step 1 in a pandemic.
Hasn't been done. Instead Vic has been firing nurses. Madness.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Already in the pipeline.
2 weeks to flatten the curve to most locked down city in the world.
No mandatory vaccination to mandatory vaccination
We won't spend 2021 in lockdown to we spent 2021 in lockdown
Once we're vaccinated we will open fully to kids need jabbing to 4 months and boosters

As an aside most doctors aren't treating covid patients. They turn them away only treatment is in hospitals following WHO guidelines.
Look eventually imo this will lead to a permanent social credit passport.
But because this has been politicised and everyone wants to prove how caring they are and not heartless they have attached identify to it and will support every step no matter how out of proportion and how much damage it does.
Look at this thread as an example. Way back it started as people saying wait a minute what are China doing? Why these restrictions and how sick are people somehow asymptomatic all the way through to whacked out 5G theories or a global round up of criminals. (Added to the flavour).
But now it's full of posters protecting the official narrative no matter what.
I said a few posts back. I had a few months off and things are the same. I could come back in 6 months by then we will be at the 12th variant and 5th booster shots, more mandates and the support will be as strong as ever amoung the cultists. They will never say enough or it's time to move on.

You are hysterical. Try a valium.

 

[Run n Spread]

You are hysterical. Try a valium.

Uhhm I didn't shut a state down over 2 cases nor am in a wild panic over this.
In fact I think there is a case to stop testing needlessly.
Up is down. I'm hysterical jeebus.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Uhhm I didn't shut a state down over 2 cases nor am in a wild panic over this.
In fact I think there is a case to stop testing needlessly.
Up is down. I'm hysterical jeebus.

You basically want people to stop testing and isolate. I'm sure if you had your way, this virus would never be mentioned again.

Have you thought about moving to Turkmenistan?

Otherwise, chill out mate. We 'let it rip' just like you wanted, right? We were warned by the experts that this is what 'let it rip' would look like and funnily enough, they've been proven to be spot on... damn those pesky experts!

 

[Run n Spread]

You basically want people to stop testing and isolation. I'm sure if you had your way, this virus would never be mentioned again.

Have you thought about moving to Turkmenistan?

If you are sick go to a doctor, get a diagnosis, get treated. Pretty non hysterical response imo
How does wasting money and resources testing people not sick make sense?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Victoria is now at 50 000 cases a day. In another 10 days we will have 1 million cases. Doctors are not been over run. Hospitals are not turning people into the streets. The over run is at testing centres and people buying RATs.
A case can actually be made to stop testing people who don't need it and concentrate resources on where needed. Enabling doctors and GPs to treat patients and improving ICU and hospital capacity. Something needed in 2019 and I would've thought would be step 1 in a pandemic.
Hasn't been done. Instead Vic has been firing nurses. Madness.

I think there is still a case for testing (data is important) but with it now out there in the way it is, I question the point of quarantining going forward

 

[Better Loosen Up]

If you are sick go to a doctor, get a diagnosis, get treated. Pretty non hysterical response imo
How does wasting money and resources testing people not sick make sense?

So you want 50,000 people in Victoria to rock up to the doctors every day to get their diagnosis? It's a completely unworkable response imo.

How is it that after 2 years you still have absolutely NFI when it comes to this pandemic?

We 'let it rip', you got what you wanted but now it is backfiring so you want to change the goalposts to basically no mention of this virus whatsoever/ pretend it doesn't exist... i'll give you the tip, that won't work either.

 

[Run n Spread]

So you want 50,000 people in Victoria to rock up to the doctors every day to get their diagnosis? It's a completely unworkable response imo.

How is it that after 2 years you still have absolutely NFI what it comes to this pandemic?

We 'let it rip', you got what you wanted but now it is backfiring so you want to change the goalposts to basically no mention of this virus whatsoever/ pretend it doesn't exist... i'll give you the tip, that won't work either.

FFS. Look at the correlation.
We have a situation with lines at 3am at testing centres RATs sold out and 50k positive tests a day. We have over 200k cases a day on track for a million cases in a state of 7.
Now have these exponential numbers resulted in 3am lines outside hospitals, doctors been inundated and run off capacity? Deaths on an unimaginable scale? No.
So that shows most resources are being wasted on tests on people who aren't sick and don't need them.
Treat people who ACTUALLY ARE sick. Which is a minute % of all those positive cases.
The majority testing and even positive cases are not sick so shouldn't be tying up limited resources on what they don't need nor want.

 

[Chief]

Israel to roll out fourth dose of COVID vaccine amid first recorded Omicron death

Israel will offer a fourth dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to people over 60 amid concern about the worldwide spread of the Omicron variant.

www.abc.net.au

Starting with the vulnerable, it'll work its way through everyone eventually

I'm wavering on that. Vaccination and sensible measures should stop Covid in most people.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

The let it rip approach they wanted is happening and now we are seeing the consequences with massive covid numbers and the economy grinding to a halt

If people weren't being told to stay home (and collect $750 per week) for being a 'close contact', would the economy be 'grinding to a halt'?

 

[Gavin Excell]

If people weren't being told to stay home (and collect $750 per week) for being a 'close contact', would the economy be 'grinding to a halt'?

Yeah that's a thing for sure (I'm currently in iso for that reason) but equally there are heaps of people actually sick too as well as people deciding themselves not to go out.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

there are heaps of people actually sick

You mean with 'Omicron symptoms' i.e. what we used to call the common cold?

 

[bok_party]

Victoria is now at 50 000 cases a day. In another 10 days we will have 1 million cases. Doctors are not been over run. Hospitals are not turning people into the streets. The over run is at testing centres and people buying RATs.
A case can actually be made to stop testing people who don't need it and concentrate resources on where needed. Enabling doctors and GPs to treat patients and improving ICU and hospital capacity. Something needed in 2019 and I would've thought would be step 1 in a pandemic.
Hasn't been done. Instead Vic has been firing nurses. Madness.

There’s plenty of nurses and doctors saying otherwise though. What are you basing this on?

 

[Gavin Excell]

You mean with 'Omicron symptoms' i.e. what we used to call the common cold?

Yes not serious but enough to be feeling crap and being out of action for a few days

You X that by 100k+ people and it has an impact on the economy

It's not rocket science

 

[Run n Spread]

There’s plenty of nurses and doctors saying otherwise though. What are you basing this on?

ICU cases at 56.
I do have sympathy for nurses and docs but ICu was at capacity in 19. Nothing has been done to fix it.
Could you imagine if the billions spent on restrictions, the lab and pathology resources were actually spent on health capacity and treatment.
Hell even the hotel quarentine we could've fixed homeless ness.
Even WA which has no covid is on ICU bypass.