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Mmmmmm not really no. The argument before was people not being allowed healthcare because they didn’t get the vaccine which could have kept them healthy. Some of us said okay then, how would you feel if they refused healthcare to an obese person because they refused to take care of themselves too?It really feels like this latest "well why don't we mandate against obesity then" line is people just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
Do you know what 'Association' means in this context?Impact of obesity on COVID-19 outcomes | Obesity Evidence Hub
As the impact of COVID-19 continues to be felt around the world, this page provides links to emerging evidence that suggests obesity may be a risk factor for becoming seriously ill with the virus.www.obesityevidencehub.org.au
Statements by the World Health Organization and the World Obesity Federation support the association of obesity with poor outcomes from COVID-19. The World Health Organisation has stated that:
“The latest scientific evidence, based on multiple studies, shows that patients with obesity (including young adults) hospitalized with COVID-19 experienced substantially higher rates of severe outcomes, such as requiring intensive care treatment, mechanical ventilation and death.”
And really, the argument should have stayed at that point.Mmmmmm not really no. The argument before was people not being allowed healthcare because they didn’t get the vaccine which could have kept them healthy. Some of us said okay then, how would you feel if they refused healthcare to an obese person because they refused to take care of themselves too?
Mmmmmm not really no. The argument before was people not being allowed healthcare because they didn’t get the vaccine which could have kept them healthy. Some of us said okay then, how would you feel if they refused healthcare to an obese person because they refused to take care of themselves too?
Good on you mate did you feel like an absolute legend as you posted this comment?Yeah, nah.
I got a double vaccination but that doesn't mean I can't get sick and up in ICU.
And if I do end up in hospital, I deserve a bed more than some dumb-arse anti-vaxxer who got their medical info from Tic Toc and Instagram.
I think it would be wonderful if Anti-Vaxxers are denied medical treatment; getting rid of anti-vaxxers is doing mankind a favour.
If you don't want the Vax, cool. It's really no one's business. You have a choice.
No, not really mate. Was mostly feeling a bit bored and distracted while waiting for some delicious quasedillas to cool.Good on you mate did you feel like an absolute legend as you posted this comment?
It is indeed. only 147 cases in icu, so the hospital system is coping well.
Yes I will cry myself to sleep tonight.No, not really mate. Was mostly feeling a bit bored and distracted while waiting for some delicious quasedillas to cool.
How did you feel when you responded? You sound a little offended tbh. U ok?
trying to justify and defend that position.
We didnt know it was "questionable", we knew it would drop v efficacy rate.. We have known that since January in australia. Look back at my posts.Haven’t ignored any of it.
That infection effectiveness rate is not fixed — it has steadily fallen since the beginning. Some of the data from Israel (a very highly-vaxxed country) shows it has fallen to less than 40%. (Hence the mandated third booster.)
What we know is that the vaccine’s medium or even short-term effectiveness at stopping infection/spread was questionable from the very beginning (ie they didn’t know, but hoped). Now, based on the most recent data out of highly-vaxxed countries, it’s not really questionable at all. Currently, it really isn’t, to any significant degree, stopping the spread. That is common knowledge.
And it certainly isn’t clear whether an indeterminable number of boosters will stop the spread either.
What exactly were you expecting in a thread discussing whether mandatory vaccinations are appropriate?
Just your side of the argument?
So what you’re saying is if you don’t want to take the vax that’s fine but don’t justify or defend that decision?And really, the argument should have stayed at that point.
But as usual, people that claim they are vax'd and are not anti-vax - spend too much time trying to justify their view that they end up taking the argument beyond their supposed original point and make themselves look stupid. It also dilutes their actual argument.
COVID is bad.
Lockdowns prevent it spreading.
The vaccine does what it is designed to do.
They're just facts.
For the life of me, I don't understand why people speak sh*t and spruik lies and falsehoods to justify their personal opinion.
If you don't want the Vax, cool. It's really no one's business. You have a choice.
But don't speak sh*t trying to justify and defend that position.
So what you’re saying is if you don’t want to take the vax that’s fine but don’t justify or defend that decision?
So what you’re saying is if you don’t want to take the vax that’s fine but don’t justify or defend that decision?
Mmmmmm not really no. The argument before was people not being allowed healthcare because they didn’t get the vaccine which could have kept them healthy. Some of us said okay then, how would you feel if they refused healthcare to an obese person because they refused to take care of themselves too?
Do you want to get to 18000 hospital admissions to get thru to that point?
Florida’s vax rate is 58%
Guessing they hit herd immunity
All it took was 57,000 deaths