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According to Tiffany Cherry on Foxfooty News, Mark Graham will be making a decision tomorrow as to whether he'll play another year or retire.
 
julzqld said:
According to Tiffany Cherry on Foxfooty News, Mark Graham will be making a decision tomorrow as to whether he'll play another year or retire.
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i will support his decision either way as our backline would of been stuffed on a number of occasions if he wasnt here and i never realised how much of a AK clone he was in how he backs into packs not so often as AK but its great to see him do it :D
 

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gave us some extra leadership, schwarz was adament on white line fever last nite that he'd announce his retirement today
 
tigertime said:
Hopefully announcing his retirement. Kept a young player out of the seniors all year long.
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Is that an inditement of Graham or our lack of sufficient quality right now to displace him? The latter for mine and I hope he stays until we can turn that around.
 
No it is an indictment on wallace that he didnt want to give our young defenders some game time.

Jackson for one should have played a lot more senior footy this year. Schultz is clearly another obvious choice. Even Morrison could have been given more of a go. Consistently best in our reserves all year.

True Thylacine said:
Is that an inditement of Graham or our lack of sufficient quality right now to displace him? The latter for mine and I hope he stays until we can turn that around.
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tigertime said:
No it is an indictment on wallace that he didnt want to give our young defenders some game time.

Jackson for one should have played a lot more senior footy this year. Schultz is clearly another obvious choice. Even Morrison could have been given more of a go. Consistently best in our reserves all year.
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Schulz had too many injury interruptions to be considered and didnt demand a run at any stage with good form
Morrison had 2 chances and really took neither, one of those who is a great player at VFL level just not one level higher
Jackson could not fill the same role as these players, perhaps in time if he grows a few inches and learns to play a key role down back but more a midfielder for mine
 

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We may never know because they werent given opportunities. Your just guessing.

Instead we played an old hack who has no future. Gutless decision that is not at all forward thinking.

True Thylacine said:
Schulz had too many injury interruptions to be considered and didnt demand a run at any stage with good form
Morrison had 2 chances and really took neither, one of those who is a great player at VFL level just not one level higher
Jackson could not fill the same role as these players, perhaps in time if he grows a few inches and learns to play a key role down back but more a midfielder for mine
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got no problem with the service Mark gave us this year, win win situation for both parties, he got another year out of his career and in return we got a better than expected output from him, but!!
The tigers are in rebuild mode, rebuild isnt acheived by putting a band aid over the cut, that isnt healing. Its achieved by experiment and failure.
By this I mean that, like others are saying, a youngster is being protected, or worse our youngsters arent good enough to experiment with, which is not a bad thing, its early on in the process, and more youngsters are going to arrive and more are going to leave.
The thing that doesnt quite sit right with me is that, every man and his dog knows where were at, TW could have thrown caution to the wind and the side might have won another spoon, who would ahve begrudged him that, seeing that the side was built on young blood, with some cutting it and others being cut.
Lets not forget why we got TW to the tigers, it wasnt to win games this year, it was all about winning flags in 4 years. You dont win flags in 4 years giving lifelines to vets for a servicable year.
But TW is the boss and we can talk until the cows come home. ;)
 
Its official. He retires this weekend against hawthorn.

Now we only need to retire chaffey and stafford and we have gotten rid of most of the old duds on our list.
 
Mark Graham was recruited for some very simple and logical reasons and this decision was proven very much to be the correct one .

You cannot draft a 17 -18 year old and then trot them out next year and say " There you go Sonny , your on Jonothan Brown " . It is physically and mentally impossible . Midfielders can get away with it more due to the fact that thier game revolves around speed and skill . KPP`s just do not fully develop until they get to thier 20`s and so if they can be shielded in thier first couple of years , it makes them better footballers in the long term as opposed to throwing them out there when they are 18 and getting the schit kicked out of them when they are not ready .

Our Key Backmen were next to non-existent at the end of last year . Gaspar had huge question marks over him . Schultz was judged by the powers that be as a bit of an unknown quantity who was yet to prove himself , young and green and in need of more time . Question marks over his mental capacity to make it in the big league .

This judgement proved to be the correct one .

Then that left Morrison and thankfully it was not left to him to shore up our backline for the year .

Hence the drafting of Graham . An experienced head who we knew could could take a key forward and hold his own , at the same time freeing up Andy Kellaway who has played under-sized practically all his career .

Wise and logical . If anyone can give me a good arguement as to Playing Adam Pattison down there all year i will listen to it...... but i just don`t see it .

Thanks for the year Mark , you did your job well . Congratulations on a great carrer and a fitting way to go out this week against your old mob
 
Been fantanstic for us this year, added some real experience and level headedness when needed down back. As IDGAF said, performed his required role to perfection. Turned the clock back 5 years with his game against Port, if only he could've held onto the that mark, but I'm not here to talk negative issues.

Great career, and hopefully the Hawks players and supporters give him a great send off on Sunday.
 

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IDGAF said:
You cannot draft a 17 -18 year old and then trot them out next year and say " There you go Sonny , your on Jonothan Brown " .
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naaa, no way, but you do pick from obscurity a youngster from the coburg reserves and say, here you go sonny, your playing on Oloughlin.
get real man!!!!!
 
LMAO.

Its funny how people make up logic to support their ridiculous ideas.

We should have played youngsters all year, came last with 5 wins and got our priority picks again.

Our youngsters would be a year further in their development and we would have 2 of the best players in the future of the afl.

Instead we will finish middle of the rung, higher if u believe some people here, and get nothing. Meanwhile we have helped graham play another year in the afl.

Spot on again cogga.

CoggaRules said:
naaa, no way, but you do pick from obscurity a youngster from the coburg reserves and say, here you go sonny, your playing on Oloughlin.
get real man!!!!!
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CoggaRules said:
naaa, no way, but you do pick from obscurity a youngster from the coburg reserves and say, here you go sonny, your playing on Oloughlin.
get real man!!!!!
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Come on CoggaRules, your reaching there. In a way you do have a point, but tackling Jonathon Brown is a whole different ball game than playing on O'loughlin. Brown would crush a youngster physically, mentally and performance wise. He'd eat them up and spit them out.

Graham had the AFL body to compete against the bigger boys. I'm sure if we actually had options, we would have used them.
 
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Sealen said:
Come on CoggaRules, your reaching there. In a way you do have a point, but tackling Jonathon Brown is a whole different ball game than playing on O'loughlin. Brown would crush a youngster physically, mentally and performance wise. He'd eat them up and spit them out.

Graham had the AFL body to compete against the bigger boys. I'm sure if we actually had options, we would have used them.
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so you think that a sarge wouldnt stand the rigours of a game on Brown?
If so, then how come he stood up to the rigours of a Michael and kicked 6?
I have a feeling that all our taller youngsters are going to play heaps of games at Coburg and then fade into obscurity.
If a Thursfield can be given that kind of kudos by TW after a minute at the tigers, it doesnt look good for the others.
 
CoggaRules said:
so you think that a sarge wouldnt stand the rigours of a game on Brown?
If so, then how come he stood up to the rigours of a Michael and kicked 6?
I have a feeling that all our taller youngsters are going to play heaps of games at Coburg and then fade into obscurity.
If a Thursfield can be given that kind of kudos by TW after a minute at the tigers, it doesnt look good for the others.
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If Schulz wasn't injured in the pre season, he probably would have played on Jonathon Brown. Plus, Schulz is hardly some 17-18 year old kid, as mentioned by IDGAF before.
 

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