Mark Seaby

[F-U]

Now i know it was this guys first year, but i found his first year to be rather disappointing. I can only remember him playing one good game against Hawthorn but for the rest of the season it seemed to me that he was happy to sit in the background and really didnt impose himself up forward when most of the time he was playing on marginally smaller opponents.

I believe he is a very important player next year. He needs to step up and impose himself as a second target down in our forward line. He needs to improve his marking ability and put on a bit of weight so he can push away some of his smaller opponents. I hope that he can stop playing like a backup and this year play as a more confident player. I know everyone says that a CHB is the most important thing we need next year but in my opinion our key problem is still our forward line. In order for us to be successful in the forward next year we need Mark to step up and provide another option rather then Andrew McDougall.

Next year is make or break year for Mark Seaby and im hoping he can impose himself in our forward line and become a regular. Otherwise i can see him being traded off with the short supply of decent ruckmen in the comp at the moment. So am i the only one that thinks Mark Seaby will need to step up next year and be a forward option??

 

[sinepari]

Now i know it was this guys first year, but i found his first year to be rather disappointing. I can only remember him playing one good game against Hawthorn but for the rest of the season it seemed to me that he was happy to sit in the background and really didnt impose himself up forward when most of the time he was playing on marginally smaller opponents.

I believe he is a very important player next year. He needs to step up and impose himself as a second target down in our forward line. He needs to improve his marking ability and put on a bit of weight so he can push away some of his smaller opponents. I hope that he can stop playing like a backup and this year play as a more confident player. I know everyone says that a CHB is the most important thing we need next year but in my opinion our key problem is still our forward line. In order for us to be successful in the forward next year we need Mark to step up and provide another option rather then Andrew McDougall.


Next year is make or break year for Mark Seaby and im hoping he can impose himself in our forward line and become a regular. Otherwise i can see him being traded off with the short supply of decent ruckmen in the comp at the moment. So am i the only one that thinks Mark Seaby will need to step up next year and be a forward option??

ur an absolute clown.
he had a good year and will clearly be our number 2 ruckman behind cox next year. Most clubs would die to have him at their disposal

 

[Ruddiger]

Seaby is a good player. Almost 200 hit outs as a second ruckman and his disposals are quality.

With Gardi going to the forward line, he can continue to support Cox and rotate up forward.

Good luck to him !

 

[theorangeapple]

he's all quality.

he had a great year. won best rookie in a pretty competitive year- thats who high the club rates him.

 

[Thrawn666]

Now i know it was this guys first year, but i found his first year to be rather disappointing.

I would suggest that you would be in a very select minority group

 

[UNIT]

Seaby was dissapointing?. You must have been watching a different bloke this year because i think along with Judds Brownlow, and Darren Glass standing up at Full Back, Seaby was one of the highlights of season 04 for WC. And dont be writing off Andrew McDougall either people, or Travis Gaspar for that matter. I think even Eagles supporters are underestimating the potential thats on their list. There is a lot more to the present Eagles list than just an midfield and with the help of a certain M. Gardiner they will prove that in season 2005.

 

[Monocle]

Now i know it was this guys first year, but i found his first year to be rather disappointing.

Next year is make or break year for Mark Seaby and im hoping he can impose himself in our forward line and become a regular. Otherwise i can see him being traded off with the short supply of decent ruckmen in the comp at the moment.

So am i the only one that thinks Mark Seaby will need to step up next year and be a forward option??

I cant believe what I have just read!!!!!!

Mate you havent got a clue. Not only are you incorrect , but Seaby had a very good and most impressive debut season. National Bank Rising Star Nomination, Eagles best first year player .

As you can see from the replies you have received you are in the minority camp.

 

[jod23]

Sorry mate but ive got no idea what your on about. Seaby had an outstanding year in his first season at AFL level and will only get better and better. I disagreed with absolutely everything in your post??

 

[Altum Volantes]

Yeah, a bit out of left feild F-U. For a rookie year ruckman he was probably above average. Some good games, some quiet ones. He's not facing a make or break year, he'd even have a 'grace' year up his sleave if things didn't go cherry ripe in '05 - but really at this stage he's only looking onward and upward...

 

[coasting]

Now i know it was this guys first year, but i found his first year to be rather disappointing. I can only remember him playing one good game against Hawthorn but for the rest of the season it seemed to me that he was happy to sit in the background and really didnt impose himself up forward when most of the time he was playing on marginally smaller opponents.

I believe he is a very important player next year. He needs to step up and impose himself as a second target down in our forward line. He needs to improve his marking ability and put on a bit of weight so he can push away some of his smaller opponents. I hope that he can stop playing like a backup and this year play as a more confident player. I know everyone says that a CHB is the most important thing we need next year but in my opinion our key problem is still our forward line. In order for us to be successful in the forward next year we need Mark to step up and provide another option rather then Andrew McDougall.

Next year is make or break year for Mark Seaby and im hoping he can impose himself in our forward line and become a regular. Otherwise i can see him being traded off with the short supply of decent ruckmen in the comp at the moment. So am i the only one that thinks Mark Seaby will need to step up next year and be a forward option??

Do you even watch Eagles games? Or did Eagles Rock hack your account? It may have been disappointing if he was 25 and had played 150 games already but it was his first year for christs sake. Yes his only really good game up forward came against Hawthorn but he hasn't really played forward before. He had very good games in the ruck against Richmond and the Kangeroos. IMO he only had one genuinely bad game and that was against Brisbane in Brisbane when he was dragged in the 4th quarter. His first year was better than Michael Gardiner's first year.

 

[eagleskickass]

well i dont agree with that, i think he had an amazing year, but I can assure you he knows 2005 is make or break and he is intent on working really hard over the off-season to get his body in the right order to really step up in '05.

 

[Exeter]

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Seabs F-U.

 

[Mr Q]

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Seabs F-U.

C'mon Ex, this is BigFooty. None of this "respectfully disagree" bull********.

The sentence you were looking for is "F-U, you don't have a clue about Seaby you useless ********ing troll, its clear you've never watched a game of footy in your life". At least that's what I've been led to believe.

I suppose it is a bit more polite.........

Hmmmm..... F-U, I shall also respectfully disagree with your assessment of Seaby. Mostly on the basis that it's completely wrong

 

[hawkeye23]

I would suggest that you would be in a very select minority group

Most definitely. I found Seabs to be consistent all season, as did most of the Vic based supporters I watched games with.

 

[Exeter]

C'mon Ex, this is BigFooty. None of this "respectfully disagree" bull********.

The sentence you were looking for is "F-U, you don't have a clue about Seaby you useless ********ing troll, its clear you've never watched a game of footy in your life". At least that's what I've been led to believe.

I suppose it is a bit more polite.........

Hmmmm..... F-U, I shall also respectfully disagree with your assessment of Seaby. Mostly on the basis that it's completely wrong

I'm waging a one man campaign to bring respect and civility back to internet football forums.

I may be delusional but I live in hope.

 

[ImperialPurple]

You dedset fricken loser Ex, of all the lame-@r$e dipstick pieces of complete and utter garbage...

oh hang on - I'm on your side on this one.

How very gentlemanly of you Mr Exeter. Do carry on.

 

[Exeter]

I should add however that my high minded altruism does not extend to Collingwood supporters.

f*&*ing ar%#*oles.

 

[Mr Q]

Bit harsh on f*&*ing ar%#*oles that comparison though....

 

[Exeter]

True.

Calling anyone a F*%#ing Pie fan is a bit extreme.

The depths of human depravity never cease to appall me.

 

[jod23]

I'm waging a one man campaign to bring respect and civility back to internet football forums.

I may be delusional but I live in hope.

Your a visionary...your before your time! Keep up the good work.

 

[F-U]

I must admit i didnt expect a single sole to agree with me, that being said I still believe Seaby season has been very overrated. If anyone saw Seaby play in the WAFL year before, they would of been expecting huge things from him just like i was. With Gardiner coming back into the team, what are the odds do you think of Eagles playing 3 ruckmen in the same team. I know Gardiner is being slated for CHF but the temptation of putting him in the ruck will always be there and you would expect that Gardiner would do some rucking around the ground.

Apart from ruck and kick 3 goals in one game did Mark Seaby really do anything which will guarantee him a spot in the team next year? The amount of times i saw Seaby standing at the 50m arc when the ball was being pumped into the square is beyond belief. Drawing up Seabys stats, he had 11 single figure disposal games and a highest total of 15 possessions. Those arnt exactly impressive stats there. The need to have a relief ruckmen next year will definetly be restrained since Gardiner will be doing some rucking around the ground (he should be atleast). If Seaby was to do relief ruck work you wouldnt expect it to last much longer then 10-15 mins a game. Do you really expect Worsfold to play someone just to bring him on the ground for 10 mins a game?? It would make more sense to play Quinten Lynch and have him play with Gardiner doing relief ruck work then to play Seaby and have him do relief ruck work. Unless Seaby can add some attacking dimension to his game he will find himself useless and struggling to get a game.

The reason why i said this is make or break year for Seaby is that this year will decide if there is a spot for him in the team. If he doesnt become a forward option then he will find himself not getting a game and would definetly then become some very big trade bait for us. Unless he does something great next year, i will still see him as a player who wud be worth more if we traded him then if we kept him

 

[jod23]

Disagree again. I bet come round 1, all three of Cox, Seaby and Gardiner will be in the 22.

 

[Monocle]

You miss the mark once again.

Lets just agree to disagree ,you dont rate him, I do.

One point I do agree with you on is if we put him up for trade we would be inundated with great offers.

Does'nt that tell you how highly other clubs rate him?

So what does that suggest to you ? Maybe you are the one who is selling him short.

I just dont know what you expect from a 20 year old ruckman.

He will do me fine, suggest a better young ruckman listed at any other club!

And the winner is? Mark Seaby.

 

[eagleskickass]

where can one find the stats of Mr Gardiner's first season to compare? I honestly don't know how they compare and would be interested to see?

 

[Mead]

where can one find the stats of Mr Gardiner's first season to compare? I honestly don't know how they compare and would be interested to see?

In his first season, Gardiner played 10 games for for 116 disposals, 54 marks 85 hitouts and kicked 9.5, Seaby had substantially better numbers because he played 17 games.If we do the fairer comparison over Seabs and Gardies' (and hey, why not Cox)'s first 17 games-

Gardiner- 12 disposals, 4 marks, and 12 hitouts a game, and kicked 12.8
Seaby- 8 disposals, 3 marks, and 12 hitouts a game, and kicked 14.8
Cox- 8 disposals, 2 marks and 11 hitouts a game, and kicked 2.2

Not much difference between those numbers really, with Gardiner getting slightly more of the ball, and Seaby kicking more goals.I expected very big things from Seaby on the basis of his WAFL showings, and I thought he lived up to expectations nicely first up- you just do not get consistently big games from ruckmen in their first year, all you can look at is individual efforts to indicate what they'll be able to consistently once they develop.

By way of comparison, Collingwood supporters are creaming themselves over Guy Richards, and this year he managed 9 disposals, 4 marks and 13 hitouts a game, despite getting roughly double the amount of game time that Seaby did each week, and playing more or less exclusively in the ruck rather than up forward.