Player Watch Mason Cox

[Markfs]

That silvagni thing is his greatest weakness as i see it....in the ruck....in marking situations..... its bewildering how a bloke as big as that can be eased off the ball so easily...and after 7 years or something, he hasn't learnt how to adjust. Those silvagni displays floored me to be honest. He should have made silvagni look pathetic and it was the reverse...

 

[Pistol Night]

That silvagni thing is his greatest weakness as i see it....in the ruck....in marking situations..... its bewildering how a bloke as big as that can be eased off the ball so easily...and after 7 years or something, he hasn't learnt how to adjust. Those silvagni displays floored me to be honest. He should have made silvagni look pathetic and it was the reverse...

He's tall but he's lean so blokes with a lower centre of gravity that have footy nous can easily work him off the ball

 

[Markfs]

He's tall but he's lean so blokes with a lower centre of gravity that have footy nous can easily work him off the ball

it doesn't explain it all. He's a lot heavier than silvagni. He doesn't lean into it. He doesnt make the first contact.

it affects his whole game. He has to be free of body contact to be effective. in the ruck. in marking. he did all his work away from the 50 metre area. honestly, i'm bored discussin him because he will be back in a hole in a week or two weeks.

 

[pugsville]

Cox was the 2nd ruck behind Cameron. He had 11 hitouts, 1 goal and impacted with contested marks around the ground. There is an argument that such were the importance of those marks that without them we may not have gotten over the line against Carlton. That's pretty much all you can ask from your second ruck.

When you run away from your original claim "that cox was a GOOD ruck" the words you use are "I was wrong"

 

[Piestration]

He's tall but he's lean so blokes with a lower centre of gravity that have footy nous can easily work him off the ball

He would also be conscious of avoiding unnecessary high contact against a smaller ruck

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Play him as much as you can

 

[Quicky]

When you run away from your original claim "that cox was a GOOD ruck" the words you use are "I was wrong"

Cox is a good ruck. Do you reckon capitalising your words lends them more weight?

 

[Seedsfan]

H

He had 11 hitouts from 71% TOG, with three clearances and four tackles. Cameron had more disposals but also spent more TOG. So he provided output.

Yet Cameron won 54.17% of his ruck contests, Cox 34.37%. Not sure of the relevance to TOG

 

[Bianconeri]

Yet Cameron won 54.17% of his ruck contests, Cox 34.37%. Not sure of the relevance to TOG

How many were draws though? Carlton only had 19 hit outs all up so Cox definitely didn’t lose over 60% of his hit outs.

 

[Seedsfan]

How many were draws though? Carlton only had 19 hit outs all up so Cox definitely didn’t lose over 60% of his hit outs.

The stats they give you are ruck contests attended v hit outs won. I am not sure if they have a category for draws

 

[anshell]

Put it this way.If we had selected Begg instead of Cox,then we would have lost the game against Carlton.The decision to select him was a good one

 

[Bianconeri]

The stats they give you are ruck contests attended v hit outs won. I am not sure if they have a category for draws

All I know is it’s impossible for Cox to have lost 22 hit outs when Carlton only got 19 all up. And that’s not taking into account Cameron who only won around 50 percent.

 

[Seedsfan]

All I know is it’s impossible for Cox to have lost 22 hit outs when Carlton only got 19 all up. And that’s not taking into account Cameron who only won around 50 percent.

Still when you are up against Jack Silvagni a draw is nothing to hang your hat on

 

[Bianconeri]

Still when you are up against Jack Silvagni a draw is nothing to hang your hat on

Jack Silvagni won a total of 3 hit outs. Don’t think this point is as good as you think it is.

 

[Seedsfan]

Jack Silvagni won a total of 3 hit outs. Don’t think this point is as good as you think it is.

You were the one that pointed out that they have to mark some as draws because otherwise the numbers don’t add up

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Are you sure you aren't blind?

He needs goggles

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I don’t think anybody doubts grundy is better than cox

 

[domus]

That silvagni thing is his greatest weakness as i see it....in the ruck....in marking situations..... its bewildering how a bloke as big as that can be eased off the ball so easily...and after 7 years or something, he hasn't learnt how to adjust. Those silvagni displays floored me to be honest. He should have made silvagni look pathetic and it was the reverse...

Silvagni has done it repeatedly against all ruckman this year. He is far stronger than he looks and uses his body beautifully. He seems to have enormous power in those hips and legs. I though Cox held his ground well in most contests and did some lovely work to our advantage.

 

[Markfs]

Silvagni has done it repeatedly against all ruckman this year. He is far stronger than he looks and uses his body beautifully. He seems to have enormous power in those hips and legs. I though Cox held his ground well in most contests and did some lovely work to our advantage.

i dont discount silvagni's abilities. I doubt he has more power than cox, but he knows how to use his body. You either sit there and just accept that silvagni is going to move cox out of the way, just as the backmen do with cox, or you do something about it. I've been watching cox for 6 or 7 years and i dont think he has improved 0.5% in this area. But he should play for the rest of the year.

 

[domus]

i dont discount silvagni's abilities. I doubt he has more power than cox, but he knows how to use his body. You either sit there and just accept that silvagni is going to move cox out of the way, just as the backmen do with cox, or you do something about it. I've been watching cox for 6 or 7 years and i dont think he has improved 0.5% in this area. But he should play for the rest of the year.

Throw the man a crumb. He was excellent on Sunday. He took four contested marks and had a real presence in a number of contests. He laid four tackles.

 

[OniAu]

Ive never seen a player more harshly critiqued than Cox for the amount of $$ he is on & the fact he was a massive project player at a later age than most people start football.

 

[Doc1763]

Ive never seen a player more harshly critiqued than Cox for the amount of $$ he is on & the fact he was a massive project player at a later age than most people start football.

Poor bastard cant win, played a pretty good game on Sunday.

 

[stui magpie]

it doesn't explain it all. He's a lot heavier than silvagni. He doesn't lean into it. He doesnt make the first contact.

it affects his whole game. He has to be free of body contact to be effective. in the ruck. in marking. he did all his work away from the 50 metre area. honestly, i'm bored discussin him because he will be back in a hole in a week or two weeks.

Having rucked against shorter guys 30+ kg heavier than me, unless you bend the knees and brace for contact you go flying. Centre of gravity is a big thing, all Silvagni (or others) have to do is time their body contact right and he's out of the argument.

Having said that, he played a great game. Begg has had a taste and did well in the VFL on the weekend, so the balance is between Begg's development and winning games. We'll win more games with Cox in the team than Begg at the moment.

 

[Markfs]

Throw the man a crumb. He was excellent on Sunday. He took four contested marks and had a real presence in a number of contests. He laid four tackles.

domie, ok. i just watched 10 minutes of the first quarter when cox was rucking and he beat the blonde kid ....so he might be ok against young inexperienced ruckmen....

so there's a crumb

 

[WireHawk]

As an opposition supporter, I think Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

being successful is good for footy.
Mason seems like a nice guy and at least has a personality. He will probably dominate
against us Hawks this weekend.

Good luck to him.