Matt Crouch is just a plodder.

[port_adelaide_1870]

Wait wait wait, you are saying DBJ is 'averaging well for his position'? Hahahahahaha that is ridiculously laughable.

Come on, post comparative stats to Laird, Shaw, Docherty, Rampe, Enright, Wood, Brodie Smith, hell even Pittard. Show me you can be objective.

And that the **** does, 'averaging poorly (other then high disposals count)' mean? You are ******* delusional.

Crouch literally has better stats then EVERY half back flanker in the league.

That doesn't address the question that is being asked, the one you all deflect

What does crouch do well as a footballer

Care to comment on this one? ^


Just going through 10 pages.

Also another crows flog ignoring/deflecting stuff again to focus on one section of a post he disagrees with. Lol, what do we say to that?

lol as expected another flog that can't think of anything else Krouch is good at, keep deflecting.

You should know people who constantly ignore, deflect, and troll are either
A) to stupid to come up with an argument
B) secretly know they're wrong and don't want to admit it/address it.

You're both

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Holy shit, how can anyone be this dumb and/or delusional? This is brilliant

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Holy shit, how can anyone be this dumb and/or delusional? This is brilliant

Instead of posting your usual pointless cowardly garbage how about you be useful once in your life and answer this simple question.

What does crouch do well as a footballer?

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

I debunked them by proving that his stats aren't that impressive when compared to other midfielders averaging 24 disposal +.

We are essentially debating a young midfielder v a young HBF. When one is averaging poorly (other then high disposals count) considering his position/number of possessions and the other is averaging well for his position. It's obvious who is better. Darcys impact on the game is superior to krouchs

Darcy also has never had 12 clanger and 8 turnovers

Edit: sorry Krouch not crouch

Ffs you have never compared DBJ to his HBF peers. All you do is compare the stats a HBF on average has over a midfielder then complain that that's all our side of the argument is doing..

 

[Arthur Dunger]

All of these sideways possessions for Krouch, what does he actually do well with his plethora of touches

Summary - Average Metres Gained in 2016

Matt Crouch: 241.65
Jarryd Lyons: 333.67
Rory Atkins: 353.86
Brodie Smith: 518.38
Rory Laird: 366.18

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Krouch is 23rd in the league for clangers, DBJ: 191st
Krouch is 75th in the league for frees against, Darcy: 160
Darcy has averages more rebound 50s than Krouch does
Despite being a defender Darcy averages 2 inside 50s a game compared to krouchs 2.5
Darcy averages more defensive 50 tackles than Krouch does
Darcy averages more contested marks than Krouch does
Darcy averages more hitouts than krouch
Despite beings defender darcy has 3 goal assists for the year, compared to krouchs 4 goal assists
Despite being a defender Darcy has kicked 3 goals compared to Krouchs 5
Darcy averages more meters gained per game than Krouch
(Also on a side note Krouch is 8th in the afl for handballs, lol expected)

DBJ >>>> Krouch coz these stats say so (I'm using crows logic)

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

You're all very passionate about a player you want to trade (in a package deal that includes another player and a pick) for Rockliff

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

Krouch is 23rd in the league for clangers, DBJ: 191st
Krouch is 75th in the league for frees against, Darcy: 160
Darcy has averages more rebound 50s than Krouch does
Despite being a defender Darcy averages 2 inside 50s a game compared to krouchs 2.5
Darcy averages more defensive 50 tackles than Krouch does
Darcy averages more contested marks than Krouch does
Darcy averages more hitouts than krouch
Despite beings defender darcy has 3 goal assists for the year, compared to krouchs 4 goal assists
Despite being a defender Darcy has kicked 3 goals compared to Krouchs 5
Darcy averages more meters gained per game than Krouch
(Also on a side note Krouch is 8th in the afl for handballs, lol expected)

DBJ >>>> Krouch coz these stats say so (I'm using crows logic)

Hold on are you(****wit) currently comparing a HBF(DBJ) to a midfielder (Crouch) nd not to his fellow HBF immediately after complaining profusely about that exact thing. FoH.

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

You're all very passionate about a player you want to trade (in a package deal that includes another player and a pick) for Rockliff

**** Rockliff off.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Krouch is 23rd in the league for clangers, DBJ: 191st
Krouch is 75th in the league for frees against, Darcy: 160
Darcy has averages more rebound 50s than Krouch does
Despite being a defender Darcy averages 2 inside 50s a game compared to krouchs 2.5
Darcy averages more defensive 50 tackles than Krouch does
Darcy averages more contested marks than Krouch does
Darcy averages more hitouts than krouch
Despite beings defender darcy has 3 goal assists for the year, compared to krouchs 4 goal assists
Despite being a defender Darcy has kicked 3 goals compared to Krouchs 5
Darcy averages more meters gained per game than Krouch
(Also on a side note Krouch is 8th in the afl for handballs, lol expected)

DBJ >>>> Krouch coz these stats say so (I'm using crows logic)

Your post is so full of tripe. You seriously can't be as stupid as you are demonstrating.

Clangers - Fail to post disposal count...when you get the ball three times more than a spud like DBJ, he is bound to have more in total. Idiot.

Frees against - Fail to show tackle count, frees for, and disposal count. All relevant to why Crouch has more frees against. Only shows DBJ is weak at the contest.

Rebound 50s - Are you ****ing kidding me? Crouch is a midfielder and DBJ plays HB. If he had less than Crouch he may as well give up on footy.

Inside 50s - Crouch's weapon is getting the ball out of the contest to our outside mids. This is not a flaw.

Defensive 50 tackles - Again, are you ****ing kidding me? Midfielder vs defender. Post total tackle count you flog.

Contested marks - Contested ball winner vs rebound HB. Would be pretty pathetic if DBJ had less.

Hitouts - lol so relevant

Your post is so full of picking and choosing stats to suit a below average defender. And you only post the actual stats when there is a clear difference. I bet 90% of the 'DBJ is better!' stats there is a negligible difference in favour of DBJ.

And you choose such pointless stats too. Seriously, posting 'tackles inside defensive 50' and ignoring total tackles? You are a ****ing idiot, there is no two ways about it.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Your post is so full of tripe. You seriously can't be as stupid as you are demonstrating.

Clangers - Fail to post disposal count...when you get the ball three times more than a spud like DBJ, he is bound to have more in total. Idiot.

Frees against - Fail to show tackle count, frees for, and disposal count. All relevant to why Crouch has more frees against. Only shows DBJ is weak at the contest.

Rebound 50s - Are you ******* kidding me? Crouch is a midfielder and DBJ plays HB. If he had less than Crouch he may as well give up on footy.

Inside 50s - Crouch's weapon is getting the ball out of the contest to our outside mids. This is not a flaw.

Defensive 50 tackles - Again, are you ******* kidding me? Midfielder vs defender. Post total tackle count you flog.

Contested marks - Contested ball winner vs rebound HB. Would be pretty pathetic if DBJ had less.

Hitouts - lol so relevant

Your post is so full of picking and choosing stats to suit a below average defender. And you only post the actual stats when there is a clear difference. I bet 90% of the 'DBJ is better!' stats there is a negligible difference in favour of DBJ.

And you choose such pointless stats too. Seriously, posting 'tackles inside defensive 50' and ignoring total tackles? You are a ******* idiot, there is no two ways about it.

The last bolded was exactly the whole point of the post, clearly the point of the post went straight over your head. It is a demonstration to show you how easy it is to manipulate stats to suit your argument. Hence the "using crows logic"

You basically admitted in this post that you stats are not the sole determining factor in a comparison of a midfielder and a HBF. Thus making all of your previous posts redundant. Thanks for confirming that DBJ is superior

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

**** Rockliff off.

Lol you're standing up for a player that most of your supporters are putting up as trade bait. Meanwhile over at port darcy is a untouchable... pretty much paints the picture

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

 

[Maddogmetro]

The last bolded was exactly the whole point of the post, clearly the point of the post went straight over your head. It is a demonstration to show you how easy it is to manipulate stats to suit your argument. Hence the "using crows logic"

You basically admitted in this post that you stats are not the sole determining factor in a comparison of a midfielder and a HBF. Thus making all of your previous posts redundant. Thanks for confirming that DBJ is superior

What I provided and you provided are completely different. You have picked oddly specific statistics, rather than whole statistics. If I picked 'tackles inside centre square' rather than just tackles (which is a laughable stat to pick), then you'd have an argument. You are picking odd statistics without the full stats that show context. That means you are a flog.

And once again, even if you did prove 'all my previous posts redundant' (which is a ****ing stupid statement and completely and utterly wrong), the default position is not DBJ is better. You sound like a religious nutter.

 

[Maddogmetro]

The last bolded was exactly the whole point of the post, clearly the point of the post went straight over your head. It is a demonstration to show you how easy it is to manipulate stats to suit your argument. Hence the "using crows logic"

You basically admitted in this post that you stats are not the sole determining factor in a comparison of a midfielder and a HBF. Thus making all of your previous posts redundant. Thanks for confirming that DBJ is superior

Pick the top 10 inside mids and compare stats to Crouch.

Then pick the top 10 HB players and compare to DBJ.

Then compare how far behind each of those players Crouch and DBJ are.

Then come back to me and admit you're wrong.

 

[subaru]

Your post is so full of tripe. You seriously can't be as stupid as you are demonstrating.

.

I think he is ....

 

[subaru]

Also another crows flog ignoring/deflecting stuff again to focus on one section of a post he disagrees with. Lol, what do we say to that?

Quoting yourself......

Flog

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Pick the top 10 inside mids and compare stats to Crouch.

Then pick the top 10 HB players and compare to DBJ.

Then compare how far behind each of those players Crouch and DBJ are.

Then come back to me and admit you're wrong.

*crickets*

 

[Arthur Dunger]

As far as I can tell all the 'stats freaks' crows here are saying that Krouch is good at getting the ball then doing something with it.
What is/are the weapons that Krouch has in his Artillery?
You know, things like leg speed, booming kick, lateral movement etc

 

[Gray Day]

 

[T2B_]

Stahp stahp, p_a_1997 is already deaaaaad

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Pick the top 10 inside mids and compare stats to Crouch.

Then pick the top 10 HB players and compare to DBJ.

Then compare how far behind each of those players Crouch and DBJ are.

Then come back to me and admit you're wrong.

Lol, other then disposals every top 10 midfielders would destroy Krouch in every other stat

Why should I do that though when you still haven't answer our question?
What does krouch do well as a footballer. It's not that hard!

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

What I provided and you provided are completely different. You have picked oddly specific statistics, rather than whole statistics. If I picked 'tackles inside centre square' rather than just tackles (which is a laughable stat to pick), then you'd have an argument. You are picking odd statistics without the full stats that show context. That means you are a flog.

And once again, even if you did prove 'all my previous posts redundant' (which is a ******* stupid statement and completely and utterly wrong), the default position is not DBJ is better. You sound like a religious nutter.

Really? You're a complete flog, the only stats you presented as clearances, disposals, contested disposals and tackles, how is that fair when comparing a HBF to a midfielder. It is exactly like me comparing Darcy rebound 50s to krouchs... it's stupid.

You seriously are beyond delusional. And your statistical "evidence" is not relevant and poor quality in this comparison.

You haven't given one logical objective evidence yet and then when asked

What does Krouch do well as a footballer?

You deflect and ignore because you know he is a poor mans Kane Cornes

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

I think he is ....

A racist calling me stupid, lol

 

[subaru]

A racist calling me stupid, lol

Did Beatsoff reply to your dribble....

Do Western Syd flogs even know who Toby is? I thought all the Christian names their start with Mohamed NTTAWWT