Matt Priddis- Our best option for getting a Good draft Pick.

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Kerr has barely played in the last 3 years. If Priddis is playing Kerr's role it's because Kerr is not there.

It's beyond dispute to everyone except the most one eyed eagles fan that Kerr struggles to deal with tags. He is not the only bloke in the comp that gets tagged every week he plays. Nor is he the first elite mid to play in a struggling team that doesn't help him much at stoppages. He doesn't deal well with tags and that is a fact that few people would disagree with.
Its harder to tag the bloke whose job is getting the ball first than it is to tag the bloke who is set up as first receiver ....

Kerr was in and under guy when Judd was with us. He was moved into Judds role when Judd left. That was an error. That said, he has almost certainly positively influenced i.e. won us, more games than Priddis in the last 3 years...

Which says something about their relative merits.

I respect your passion, I just dont think you have evolved much beyond 1970's style football...
 

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He's close. Hird/ Birdman hybrid. :thumbsu:
Yeah, I see a few comparisons. The one I like the most is Stevie J. Both very laidback country kids. Hopefully he's a bit more sensible than Johnson.

Back on Priddis, I agree with everything Eagle87 says. Persisting with him would be like us persisting with Schammer/McManus.

Even Hasleby has had his midfield time reduced heavily because of his flaws, but he has enough attributes to play as a dangerous small forward. Priddis is a good WAFL mid, that's all.
 

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I am not an apologist for Priddis. I have no particular favouritism towards him. But if you get rid of him who do you bring in that is better and actually deserves a game. If you get rid of Priddis and all the clearances and tackles that he brings that nobody else in our team seems capable of getting and bring in some young player who barely gets a game in the WAFL what does that solve?

We know he is not A grade. Thats not the question. The question is who would you replace him with and is he the player most deserving of getting sacked and i say that despite all of his faults there are many players worse than him who should be out the door first.
Masten, Swift and Stevens should be doing the majority of the inside work. We're 16th. The season is done. We should definitely be giving the young mids more gametime in the middle so they can develop and gel together.
 

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With respect, you are a stats whore with a limited capacity to actually understand how football works.

I used 50% as a benchmark just to make a point, the point being that even the most inside of inside mids get at least 50% of their ball uncontested. On the weekend Priddis had 17 uncontested possessions, thats possessions where our best attacking mid had a chance to really influence play with ball in hand. He didnt, he rarely does.

As to giving him 5, again, stats whores. He was so far from our best according to anyone who actually watched the game and isnt lazy and looks down the stats. He works hard, he gets the ball and then he does absolutely nothing with it. Zero hurt factor. I am hopeful that your "incisive" handball comment was meant as some sort of deeply ironic comment - I didnt get it if so, but if you meant it seriously than you are beyond help. Completely.

On this issue of 80 minutes a game and all that, the reality is that teams build chemistry, identity and win games from the starting midfield. We are playing starting attacking mids out of position to accommodate players with lesser ceilings. Swift, for example, had more creative ball use than Priddis on the weekend, but only got 59% game time and had to tag ... this is because of Priddis. He cant tag, he cant play forward, he cant play wide, he cant defend, he has one string to his bow, getting the ball in close. But he does that 10 or so times a game, handy but it achieves little because he has no vision, he creates rarely AND he gets it more often uncontested, in space... which is ALWAYS terrifying.

Also on the weekend, S Selwood had long stretches away from the middle to accommodate the fact that Priddis was in there ... Scooter was arguably our most effective mid on the weekend but barely played mid in the third quarter when the Pies rolled over us ... Masten too, again, had to start as a half forward ... he was 20 times the player Priddis was at age 18 playing as an inside mid who released others to space .... he rarely gets to play that role for us because players like Priddis, A Selwood and even Ebert seem preferred at times ...

Priddis will be 26 when next season starts and he isnt getting better, he is an ordinary version of Shane Tuck (which is harsh), he is the slow version of Richie Vandenburg (not a complement). If you want to see whats required from a slowish inside mid reference Sam Mitchell ... then compare the gap to Priddis.

Perhaps one of the worst aspects of Priddis is the damage done to a guy like Kerr. Kerr should be the number 1 in and under inside attacking mid, but he has to try and play an outside role because Priddis cant. Makes him easier to tag and reduces his use of some of his best assets .... but people like yourself dont see this. You miss other teams rolling the dice and running off him in game breaking bursts... throwing kids like Hill in the middle last year and saying "just run forward" ....

He gets the ball, he is below AFL level at everything else. Again, in a midfield flood game style he can turtle tackle brilliantly. A barely useful skill. He gets run off 4 or 5 times a game (and I am being kind) at stoppages because teams roll the dice against him, knowing that the downside risk of him winning the ball is minimal but a quick player running into space with no chance of being caught is a certain goal most times ....

He has been at the core of our problems for 2 years. He is the most damaging (to our side) midfielder we have because of the key role he has and the abject lack of ability he has to do so ...

Other midfielders would improve more quickly if they had greater exposure in their proper positions, rather than trying to make them adjust, so we can keep Mr Dependable in his sole position... its so obvious and yet the stats whores cant see it ... look at his numbers ... as i have said numerous times, on stats he compares pretty well with Judd .. which tells you a lot about stats...
Why the hell aren't you an assistant coach? :thumbsu:
Surely WC has the dough we have pretty much everyone else on our payroll!
 

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Kerr has barely played in the last 3 years.

It's beyond dispute to everyone except the most one eyed eagles fan that Kerr struggles to deal with tags.
Barley played in the last three years, carried injuries, he's had Ploddus as his backup when fit. Nobody could break a tag in that situation.

Now Kerr might not have the attributes to break a hard tag, he does his best work inside, he doesn't have lightning pace nor elite endurance. You then need to work the best players possible around him to suite, we know what he can do when given room to move.

You bag Woosha but in the end you would make the same stupid mistake of beleiving Priddis is a worthwhile footballer. When Kerr returns next season the team sheet should read In: Kerr; Out: Ploddus.
 

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Kerr should be playing the role Priddis is now, granted he's not fit ATM but even when he was he was still being asked to play an outside role when his almost brownlow winning best was as an in an under footballer.

We should never line up as Priddis,Kerr, Player X, EVER.
 

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Biig footy, taking the term much maligned to a whole new level.

Tell me this... have you ever seen priddis and hitler in the same place at the same time :eek:
its all so obvious!
 

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Biig footy, taking the term much maligned to a whole new level.

Tell me this... have you ever seen priddis and hitler in the same place at the same time :eek:
its all so obvious!
Priddis has never been that effective with his actions. An aged, curly haired princess di maybe!
 

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We should of traded Kerr in (2009 I believe?) when he re-signed for 5 years... That would of netted us a very good midfielder who would still be here and just hitting his peak.
 
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