Mega Thread Matt Rendell situation thread #2

[aussierulesrules]

The problem is the implication that the alternative would be to draft kids with 'white' parents, as if that would have the same affect as the scholarships idea.

Wouldn't it though, or at least be likely to?

Chances are that if you have one "white" parent, you are more likely to be able to make the transition to the big city life successfully, as they are much more likely to be familiar with that sort of environment and what is required to live there and they will have a huge influence on them, just like a big school would.

As I said, if the situation was reversed, and an outback community were recruiting for someone to come and live in their community, do you think that someone would be more likely to make a successful transition there if they had one indigenous parent (who you'd imagine would know about what life is like there) and one "white", rather than two "white" parents, who probably know nothing about living in that sort of environment and what is required to live there successfully?

The issue here is the completely racist comment about "one white parent" and as Mr. Rendell explained last night, that may be the only answer if the clubs and the AFL don't do anything about it. The point is, doing as he suggests he or some may do as a last resort if this isn't attended to is racism pure and simple.

But he is the one who was trying his best to make sure that situation never occurred. He is trying to prevent the racial discrimination. He is not condoning it.

 

[jackster83]

How blinkered are you lot? No one is arguing about the need for the AFL and the clubs to be more sensitive about the needs of Aboriginal's, well, not the fair minded people anyway.

The issue here is the completely racist comment about "one white parent" and as Mr. Rendell explained last night, that may be the only answer if the clubs and the AFL don't do anything about it. The point is, doing as he suggests he or some may do as a last resort if this isn't attended to is racism pure and simple.

Don't you understand that the mere thought that having only one white parent would make a difference is reprehensible: to state that in front of AFL employees whose job it is to bring people together is indefensible.

That's the issue and all Rendell did last night was make salient points about the need to reform the clubs and the AFL's approach but that does not exonerate him from making a blatant racist remark.

 

[amer]

Petition for Rendell's rehiring and AD's sacking

We've lost a terrific recruiting officer over a crock.

There must be some sort of recourse. I'm personally going to email the club at least.

 

[MarcusP2]

I'd think it's far more likely to depend on the kid themselves than whoever their parents are. I don't see how having a white parent will help a kid adjust if he's spent his entire life in the APY lands.

 

[WALL-e]

James Fantasia was far more extreme, drafting Aboriginal players with TWO white parents, like Jon Griffin.

 

[MarcusP2]

Re: Petition for Rendell's rehiring and AD's sacking

Shit yeah, an internet petition!

Emailing the club is a far better recourse than a petition. Any campaign for AD's sacking is useless.

 

[Deaneus!]

James Fantasia was far more extreme, drafting Aboriginal players with TWO white parents, like Jon Griffin.

That's why he never made it at our club. Too many white parents.

 

[Syd Crow]

Re: Petition for Rendell's rehiring and AD's sacking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI

Somehow this seems relevant.....

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Graham Cornes said that you should only draft orphans.

He was racist against all races.

 

[WALL-e]

Why draft players when you can get a younger wife and make more players?

 

[Crows4Flag]

Hardly the best preparation for "the best draft of all time"

 

[Slippery Pete]

Oh god, he said salient.....

That was his one saving grace.

 

[Ratto]

My vote goes for natot_map

 

[cmndstab]

Northalives - I think you've done your dash here. You clearly haven't followed any of the events of the last 24 hours and have no interest in doing so - only in persecuting Rendell for a racist viewpoint he doesn't actually hold. Please leave the thread.

 

[mulz]

definitely hung out to dry by afl and the afc.

the clubs handling off this is what dissapoints me the most. over the last few years our club has handled a quite a few decisions poorly. but this one tops the the list.

Its time for a change in ceo. the school teacher is not up to it.

 

[JP Sauce]

38 votes to 1 so far saying that the AFC handled this terribly.

3 undecided.

 

[Truck Rutten]

I've watched the Rendell interview from FC a couple of times now, and that is up there with the most powerful pieces of television I've ever seen. You cannot fake passion like that, and Matt may not be the most eloquent speaker (which especially last night is totally understandable given how emotional, exhausted and angry he deserved to be), but he's the one who's come out of this with his dignity intact, while most of the other parties involved like that lying slimey contemptible prick Vlad, Trigg and the AFC, and many in the media, look guilty of crucifying a well meaning man, who's given 35 years of his life to our game.

It is an absolute disgrace that there's still no mention of what transpired last night on the AFC website. What sort of morons do they take the clubs' supporters for? Do they hope we'll just quickly forget about it if the article gets buried?

As someone who stood up for Matt from early after this story first broke, I really hope Cornes goes to town on the club tonight. And I sincerely hope the media go hard after Vlad on this one, and take some of the focus away from his upcoming vanity project, joke of a club's debut game this weekend. I wonder if any will have the balls to actually act like journalists. Or will they all be too scared of biting the hand that feeds them?

 

[Filthy Fielke]

How blinkered are you lot? No one is arguing about the need for the AFL and the clubs to be more sensitive about the needs of Aboriginal's, well, not the fair minded people anyway.

The issue here is the completely racist comment about "one white parent" and as Mr. Rendell explained last night, that may be the only answer if the clubs and the AFL don't do anything about it. The point is, doing as he suggests he or some may do as a last resort if this isn't attended to is racism pure and simple.

Don't you understand that the mere thought that having only one white parent would make a difference is reprehensible: to state that in front of AFL employees whose job it is to bring people together is indefensible.

That's the issue and all Rendell did last night was make salient points about the need to reform the clubs and the AFL's approach but that does not exonerate him from making a blatant racist remark.

Rendell presented a hyperbolic worst case scenario that some clubs may think is a smart policy. Not that it is a good policy, or that he would do it himself.

The scenario is a deliberately racist one so as to illustrate how bad it would be. In other words he was choosing a scenario that everyone can see is plainly wrong to get his point across.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Rendell presented a hyperbolic worst case scenario that some clubs may think is a smart policy. Not that it is a good policy, or that he would do it himself.

The scenario is a deliberately racist one so as to illustrate how bad it would be. In other words he was choosing a scenario that everyone can see is plainly wrong to get his point across.

Come on mate, Rendell is so racist that he's passionately imploring the AFL to urgently find a way to help keep more indigenous players in the game. Presumably so he can subjugate them further.

 

[The Karma Bus]

For those interested (think there will be a few of you ), Trigg will be on 5aa soon..

 

[DJ75]

Re: Matt Rendell appreciation thread

I'm pretty much convinced the AFL threw him under a bus. The AFC then opted not to pull him out at their own risk.
Disappointing on both cases.

I REALLY hope we have already spoken to him about being a consultant. Just have him float around and make his calls on players. Have someone else as the face, but Rendell pulling the strings.

I don't give a sh!t if it gets out he back working for us. It's a bullsh!t move from the AFL.

Who wants to bet the AFL will suddenly be ok with Rendell returning to the same role at a Richmond or Melbourne?? Any takers?

 

[jenny61_99]

At the time at which Rendell had resigned, Trigg clearly understood the context. In his presser he repeatedly made reference to MR's context and his comments arising out of wanting to 'help' - pretty much everyhing that was reiterated by Rendell in his interview last night.

Trigg must have known that once that actual story became public and the true context known by all relevant AFC stakeholders, MR could be not reasonably be considered a racist, and nor could the club.

I agree with this whole heartedly. Steven was emphatic in his opening statement that Matty categorically denied the context or content of the statement being bandied about.

On that basis, it gives a fair bit of credence to the theory that his hand was well and truly forced by the AFL. Understanding the context as he did when he effectively sacked Rendell, I can't believe his decision would have been based on a perceived tainting of the Crows brand going forward.

Steven knew that there was no-way Matty would let it lie. We all know that Rendell is an open book - Trigg more than any other. He absolutely knew that Matty would tell the truth.

[/quote]

On another note, this Mifsud clown is getting off lightly in relation to this issue. If my understanding of events is correct, he raised the comments from Matt Rendell on 2 seperate occassions - once in front of an audience of AFL execs (including Vlad), and once to the media! In neither instance would the correct context have been portrayed, so honestly, how else did the stupid f*&%er think this was going to play out.

Sure, he didn't come out and name names, but referencing this quote without context to these resepctive audiences is like waving a red rag to a bull.

If he didn't want this issue to escalate or be taken out of context, he would have done well not to raise it in either of these forums in the first place.

Stupidity personified.

I agree with you. Misfud has a lot of explaining to do. How/why it took two months for this comment to surface. How it was told to not only Vlad but the media - with an AFL advisor along side. This has conspiracy written all over it.

 

[Crows4Flag]

Fairplay to Cornsey he's really putting Triggy on the spot

 

[Truck Rutten]

Convenient that the revelation that Mifsud and his colleague were so affronted by Matt's comments (despite Matt not having any inkling of this from his mate Mifsud) seem to be emanating entirely from within AFL HQ.

Sorry Triggy, but much of what you've said just doesn't ring true. This is a crucifixion followed by an attempted whitewash.

 

[The Karma Bus]

From what Trigg is saying, Misfud and the other guy who was with him were very offended by some things we know about, and some we don't know about..

So the theory that he innocently raised it to the AFL when discussing issues regarding Indigenous footballers is apparently out the door..

Which takes it back to that if this is the case, why did this surface a few months later?

All very strange..