Matthew Knights assistant coach AFC rumour

[oldcrowgirl]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Knights has never been part of a club with a winning culture, so no way..

 

[Geoffa32]

I think people are putting too much stress into who the assistants at a club are.

I realise coaching is now a team effort, but unlike on the park we dont really know what they do. Noble is/was(?) forward line coach. Many say he should be teaching our guys to kick goals. My take is that his role is/was to set up the forward strategy not just in getting the ball, but in retaining it and creating space to create opportunities. Was he good at that? I think so, our ability to generate scoring shots is quite good, and not many defenders can stop both Walker/Tip in a marking contest. But our conversion is bad.

I would like to see our club get some skills coaches in. We have one with Matty Clarke. Already we have seen him turn Maric into a more than capable Ruck, and Sellar into a handy back up. Whilst he was a part time Ruck coach. Full time role and the natural skill of Jacobs and Maric entering his prime will see this work progress even more.

Which leads me to our forward kicking. Walker is naturally a good kick, Tip the opposite. What we need are coaches to teach this most basic of skills. As well as other skills based coaches, ie tackling and field kicking.

As for Matthew Knights. Not sure. I have heard him at PAMFC game breaks and he is a bit of an uninspiring FIGJAM. Worst coach in 140 years. But in a good coaching team you never know. To me the coaching panel is the sum of all parts, not the sum of one.

 

[feenix67]

For the love of God, NO!

+1 for Sanderson if he's available. Dont really want O'Donnell. Wouldnt mind Shaun Rehn or Rick Magowan.

PS What happens if Ben Hart gets the North job? Has that been filled yet? Does anyone have Jars' number??

 

[macca23]

As for Matthew Knights. Not sure. I have heard him at PAMFC game breaks and he is a bit of an uninspiring FIGJAM. Worst coach in 140 years. But in a good coaching team you never know. To me the coaching panel is the sum of all parts, not the sum of one.

While I agree with this Geoffa, the reverse also holds in that a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

For that reason, I don't want Knights.

 

[Big Gazoongas]

For the love of God, NO!

+1 for Sanderson if he's available. Dont really want O'Donnell. Wouldnt mind Shaun Rehn or Rick Magowan.

PS What happens if Ben Hart gets the North job? Has that been filled yet? Does anyone have Jars' number??

Josh Francou has been appointed the coach of the Roosters.

 

[Mismatched]

Josh Francou has been appointed the coach of the Roosters.

Yeah, whilst they delayed announcing it, that was decided weeks ago.

 

[Magma]

Mark Williams anyone?

Wouldn't mind this at all. I believe Williams is a great coach for what he was able to do at Port, with little in the way of resources. To take them to the top of the league and a premiership is fantastic.

I think that they should rid themselves of all Port bias really, and look into how he would help the club. He'd have knowledge of the Port Magpies juniors, as well as the Port players. Could be beneficial in more ways than one.

 

[jenny61_99]

Can't stand Mark Williams. I thought it was just Port... but now I realise I hated them because of him! Couldn't cope if he was a Crow (don't care how good a coach he thinks he is). Sanderson has "assisted" at both Port and perhaps more importantly with Geelong in their golden years. Although this didn't seem to really help us ala Viney/Hawthorn, did it? But he does have a Crow background..... so I'd be happy for him if we can't get Laidley. Not Knights on initial reaction, but I don't know a lot about his philosophies other than they didn't work at the senior coaching level.

 

[BunjiMac]

Mark Williams anyone?

In a heartbeat

 

[Magma]

I'd rather have a South Australian coach than have a Victorian leave for home while under contract.

 

[*PAF]

I'd rather have a South Australian coach than have a Victorian leave for home while under contract.

Victorian? Who dat be?

 

[NTRabbit]

I'd rather have a South Australian coach than have a Victorian leave for home while under contract.

Viney is a South Australian, the Demons got him from Sturt.

The State of Origin is even less relevant when picking a coach than it is when picking players in the draft. Practically nil.

 

[cmndstab]

I wouldn't mind Knights, actually. He proved to be a failure as a senior coach, but that doesn't mean he'd be a failure as an assistant. He obviously had some parts of the caper down pat, but was severely lacking polish in other areas. Give him roles that allow us to take advantage of the former, but for which the latter is not a hindrance to the job.


We could do a lot worse.

 

[NTRabbit]

I wouldn't mind Knights, actually. He proved to be a failure as a senior coach, but that doesn't mean he'd be a failure as an assistant. He obviously had some parts of the caper down pat, but was severely lacking polish in other areas. Give him roles that allow us to take advantage of the former, but for which the latter is not a hindrance to the job.


We could do a lot worse.

I'm not sure he actually has anything to offer at AFL level, even as an assistant coach.

 

[moogerfooger]

as an ex-senior coach Knights is at least worth an interview and as far as we know, that's all that's happened. I would be interested to know the other 5 contenders. Probably a bunch of low profile guys we've barely heard of.

I see G Ayres is also in the market, having been interviewed by Brisbane.

 

[Slattery_20]

I wouldn't mind Knights, actually. He proved to be a failure as a senior coach, but that doesn't mean he'd be a failure as an assistant. He obviously had some parts of the caper down pat, but was severely lacking polish in other areas. Give him roles that allow us to take advantage of the former, but for which the latter is not a hindrance to the job.


We could do a lot worse.

He had far too much power and nowhere near enough useful people around him.
Had some decent ideas but was intent on going it alone and sticking to his original plan past the point it was blindingly obvious it wasn't working.
If he was in a team with strong head coach and strong voices around him, he could offer a bit, IMHO.

 

[cmndstab]

I'm not sure he actually has anything to offer at AFL level, even as an assistant coach.

What do you base this on?

I'll admit I don't know much about Knights, but I generally work to the theory that those good enough to make one level but not excel can usually excel in the level below.

 

[subaru]

Fiveaa just mentioned a rumour that Knights met with crows officials.

Initial reaction is 'Get Stuffed!'.

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Initial reactions and gut feel is usually right. Stick with the first thought on this one !

Would much, much, much rather Mark Williams...

Oh dear - there would be a riot if that happened.

 

[subaru]

What do you base this on?

I'll admit I don't know much about Knights, but I generally work to the theory that those good enough to make one level but not excel can usually excel in the level below.

That's an interesting take.

But like those who can't do, teach. Is that right Stabby?

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Didn't work at Essendon.

It did last year....

 

[Vader]

Can't stand Mark Williams. I thought it was just Port... but now I realise I hated them because of him! Couldn't cope if he was a Crow (don't care how good a coach he thinks he is). Sanderson has "assisted" at both Port and perhaps more importantly with Geelong in their golden years. Although this didn't seem to really help us ala Viney/Hawthorn, did it? But he does have a Crow background..... so I'd be happy for him if we can't get Laidley. Not Knights on initial reaction, but I don't know a lot about his philosophies other than they didn't work at the senior coaching level.

Sanderson did play for the Crows.. but it was only 6 games and it was way back in 1992 & 1993. His last Adelaide game was played while Graham Cornes was still coaching the Crows!

Since then he's played for Collingwood (4 games) and Geelong (199 games), before picking up assistant coaching gigs with both Geelong and ???.

If I were looking for an ex-Crows player with outstanding credentials acquired at other clubs, then it's almost impossible to look past Sanderson.

I have no doubt that Williams has a lot to bring to the table, however I have a very low opinion of him as a human being and would not want to see him within 100 miles of an Adelaide Crows employment contract.

I can't honestly say that Knights brings anything to the table either. He's a twice failed senior coach - at Port Adelaide Magpies and now at Essendon. Given how he (reportedly) landed the Essendon job in the first place I would have to say that he's nothing but a snake oil merchant. Rubbish coach with nothing to offer.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

He had far too much power and nowhere near enough useful people around him.
Had some decent ideas but was intent on going it alone and sticking to his original plan past the point it was blindingly obvious it wasn't working.
If he was in a team with strong head coach and strong voices around him, he could offer a bit, IMHO.

Spot on. If he had the people around him Hird is going to have, he would of found things a lot easier.

 

[Smoooothy]

this would be like getting gary ayres as an assistant, you just wouldn't unless your crazy vossy

 

[cmndstab]

That's an interesting take.

But like those who can't do, teach. Is that right Stabby?

I'm not particularly good at either!


Actually, in my experience that "those who can't do, teach" epithet is wrong. Your ability to teach has very little correlation with your ability to actually carry out your own teachings. I can think of plenty of examples of teachers from both camps that I've known.

 

[Vader]

I'm not particularly good at either!


Actually, in my experience that "those who can't do, teach" epithet is wrong. Your ability to teach has very little correlation with your ability to actually carry out your own teachings. I can think of plenty of examples of teachers from both camps that I've known.

But are you familiar with the corollary: "Those who can't teach, lecture."