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crownie said:
quite easy to think Wade is doing a bad job considering all the commentators want to do is point out every single mistake he makes. It never happened to Gilchrist because Healy was well and truely retired.

The sooner Haddin rules himself out of test cricket the better.
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Quite easy to thnk Wade is doing a bad job when Wade is doing a bad job.
 
All last season it was about how much we needed Wade and how rubbish Haddin is.

Not 12 months later, it transpires that Wade is a terrible keeper and we need to trial somebody else.

Glad the new selectors aren't so fickle.
 

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High Flying Flag said:
Of course it is.
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Wade wouldn't be bothering about the performance of Brad Haddin in the past when reviewing his own games. Why should we? Either way, he makes more blues against the spinners than Haddin ever did so the point is moot.
 
I must admit, I'm not impressed by his keeping - you don't necessarily have to be the best keeper in the country to be Australia's keeper. You have to be of a certain gloveman standard, and then the selectors pick the best batsman who reaches that level. Wade's batting seems OK, but his glovework is a worry.

But are the other keepers that much better glovemen (I admit I don't watch state cricket).
 
brmi said:
I hope Wade stays. But its been sooo obvious that the Australian selectors have been itching to get Paine into the line up.

It will happen.
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And the Channel Nine commentary team! They are obviously not happy with Wades keeping ability and made some very good points yesterday and today about his limitations with the gloves.
 
High Flying Flag said:
All last season it was about how much we needed Wade and how rubbish Haddin is.

Not 12 months later, it transpires that Wade is a terrible keeper and we need to trial somebody else.

Glad the new selectors aren't so fickle.
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Go to the domestic crickt board... no one on there has changed there mind about Wade's keeping, great back shit up to the stumps was the cal from the Sheffield shield watchers. They were spot on before he was selected and they haven't changed opinion 12 months later. .
 
Paine is a better keeper. And has a better temperament to make it as a test batsmen. If he isnt on level pegging with Wade as a bat. IMO he isnt far off. maybe 5 runs in it. And Paine is a 5 run per inning better keeper.
 
Andrew Mc said:
Well, seems that Wade (and Warner) are going to be rested for the first 2 one dayers. Will be interesting to see who they bring in to have a look at. Is Haddin still in the mix for the one-dayers?

Edit: Yep, it's Haddin.
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So wait a minute, they've left Hussey out of the upcoming ODI series because he isn't going to be in their plans for the 2015 World Cup, yet they pick Haddin ahead of Paine? How does that work, is Paine injured at the mo, or what?
 

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aussierulesrules said:
So wait a minute, they've left Hussey out of the upcoming ODI series because he isn't going to be in their plans for the 2015 World Cup, yet they pick Haddin ahead of Paine? How does that work, is Paine injured at the mo, or what?
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No, Paine is playing very well in the big Bash. Ridiculous.
 
Team DJ said:
Paine is a better keeper. And has a better temperament to make it as a test batsmen. If he isnt on level pegging with Wade as a bat. IMO he isnt far off. maybe 5 runs in it. And Paine is a 5 run per inning better keeper.
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Paine doesn't make big scores and hasn't done anything in the Shield this summer.
 
Wade has 6 FC centuries at over 40 compared to Paine's 1 century at 30.

Wade is 4 years younger. How can anyone say Paine is anywhere near him as a batsman? He is definately a better keeper I wont argue that but his batting is average at best.
 

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Wallaby said:
I must admit, I'm not impressed by his keeping - you don't necessarily have to be the best keeper in the country to be Australia's keeper. You have to be of a certain gloveman standard, and then the selectors pick the best batsman who reaches that level. Wade's batting seems OK, but his glovework is a worry.

But are the other keepers that much better glovemen (I admit I don't watch state cricket).
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The Australian selectors have made it clear that they don't believe any of the other keepers are a better option than Wade, hence why they have recycled Haddin for the first two ODIs. John Inverarity has even stated that Haddin is the preferred choice after Wade.

Paine has clearly lost the selector's faith. Triffit is only just making his way in domestic cricket. Ludeman is in a similar boat. Nevill isn't even 1st choice keeper for NSW & Hartley is obviously not on the selectors' radar at all.

The reality is the best wicket-keeper in the country is not always going to play for Australia, just ask Darren Berry. The selectors are placing quite a bit of emphasis on the batting ability of the keeper as well (this probably goes back to when Jeffrey Dujon was keeping wickets for the Windies. He was a batsman who could also keep wickets, which allowed the Windies to select 4 quicks, most of whom were not great with the bat, but it didn't matter because by picking Dujon they were for all intents & purposes playing 7 batsmen).

I believe that if Wade continues to struggle behind the stumps during the Ashes tour this year, he will come under pressure to hang onto the keeper's spot. It may well be that he is then selected as a specialist batsmen, as his first class record as a batsman stacks up quite well when compared to other current batsmen outside the Australian team. What the selectors do like with Wade's batting is that he does make runs when the team is under pressure.
 
thorne89 said:
Paine doesn't make big scores and hasn't done anything in the Shield this summer.
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He is a more consistent bat then wade though. Prime example today and yesterday. Hundred yesterday. Looked like a mugg today. Paine has a better test match temperament and is a far better keeper.

We dont pick 7 batsmen. We have a top 6 and a wicket keeper.
 
thorne89 said:
So you don't think Wade is doing a poor job keeping to spinners?
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hasn't been any worse then what Gilly was when he started.

While there are better keepers Wade has taken his opportunity and deserves some time to improve, he took a ball cleanly against Lyon and Ian Healy was still whinging about somthing technical he wasn't doing correctly.
 
crownie said:
hasn't been any worse then what Gilly was when he started.

While there are better keepers Wade has taken his opportunity and deserves some time to improve, he took a ball cleanly against Lyon and Ian Healy was still whinging about somthing technical he wasn't doing correctly.
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Lyon was robbed of 5+ wickets this summer thanks to wade
 
crownie said:
and Warne was robbed many cause of Gilly's mistakes.

one dropped catch of Lyon in the second innings no keeper in the world would of caught.
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Pretty sure i wrote through the summer......

Thats our problem. Warne was once in a life time. We will never see another spinner like him again. Lyon is our best atm and thats all we need. Wade is not our best keeper.

Even early in Gillys career i still think that Seccombe was the only shield player who was a better Glovemen then him. Towards the end. Manou was probably the only better keeper then him.

Berry and Emery were better early but their ages meant they were no chance.
 

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