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How good will this guy get?

I think it's safe to say the new King of St Kilda has arrived.

The potential many people have been raving about for years has finally been unleashed more consistently, across the back half of 2021 and the opening rounds of 2022.

From where I'm sitting, injuries have always been the only thing that could stop this guy becoming an elite key forward and one of the very best players in the competition. But now, possibly earlier than even I expected, he's finally starting to prove it regularly.

Here's a question.

What do the following players have in common?

N Riewoldt
B Fevola
J Brown
M Pavlich
W Tredrea
J Roughhead
J Riewoldt
T Hawkins
J Kennedy
T Lynch
J Gunston
B Brown
J Darling

Apart from being the crème de la crème of key forwards over the past 20 years?

Answer:

1. They all averaged less contested marks per game over their careers than Max King is averaging so far in his career (2.12 per game)

2. None of them kicked at least 4 goals in 2 consecutive weeks within their first 41 games, ie: What Max King just achieved

Side note- Barry Hall and Buddy Franklin would've been on this list except they kicked 4+ in games 39 and 40, one game ahead of King who did it in games 40 and 41. Jeremy Cameron did it in games 31 and 32. Taylor Walker matched King with 4 in games 40 and 41.

Key forwards usually take 4-6 years to start consistently playing great footy. This is King's 4th season (although he missed most of 2019 rookie year with an ankle injury, only playing 5 VFL games). Harry McKay is a good example of this- 58 goals last year in his 6th season, previous best was 26.

The frustrating thing for me as a St Kilda fan, is that I can see King's trajectory unfolding before my eyes, but I don't see any other under 25's at St Kilda who look likely to become elite. So I'm not sure King will have the teammates around him to make the most of his immense abilities. (Although optimistically Clark, Gresham, Coffield and Higgins have shown flashes of brilliance. You never know).

Still this thread is about Max King not the Saints.

How good will King eventually become?

And how will he go this year? Challenge for the Coleman?
 
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Needs to get his 'easy' set shot % up.

Seems to drill the hard ones, but miss some relative sitters.

He does get the yips occasionally. Many will recall it was a public issue last year after Matthew Lloyd revealed King had reached out for assistance, only for the Saints to veto it

King should've had 2 or 3 goals in round 1 vs Collingwood, but ended up with the solitary 1.

69 goals and 57 behinds on career to date is definitely under par for accuracy.

Still, I think he has the game sense, read of the ball, mindset, hands, height, length and athleticism to ensure he'll become elite, even if this remains an issue. He'll be generating opportunities and kicking bags of goals even if he's not kicking a high enough percentage.

Agreed though it's the number one thing he should be working on.
 
aha yes i knew we had to do this..

"We need to talk about Max King" Jake

because the billboard on the Nepean highway train bridge at Brighton said we have to.
 
Ben's better
I haven't seen too much of Ben (being a Saints fan) but I've often wondered how these two fell to 4 and 6 in the draft

They're both 200cm, athletic, agile, good footy skills, and mature heads on their shoulders

Haven't seen too many players come along like that in my 30 odd years of watching footy
 
I haven't seen too much of Ben (being a Saints fan) but I've often wondered how these two fell to 4 and 6 in the draft

They're both 200cm, athletic, agile, good footy skills, and mature heads on their shoulders

Haven't seen too many players come along like that in my 30 odd years of watching footy
Gold Coast could have had both :oops:
 
Stop the presses. Pick 4 in the strongest draft in a generation starts producing eye catching performances in his 4th season. Y. A. W. N.

O/P makes exactly zero mention of the fact this is 3 whole years after an undrafted internationally renowned rap artist from the same draft crop, who doesn’t even have football as his main talent in life, put together this lazy season:



This zero draft cost, low wage, part time footballer who has also tried his hand at living at Her Majesty’s pleasure, inter alia, kicked his first bag of 4 goals almost 2 whole years ahead of Max “how good will this guy get” King, despite playing mostly in defence. 😱

In fact this man slotted 4 in a renewal of Maddie’s Match 3 seasons before Max “has arrived” King achieved the same by-now-mundane feat. And for good measure our boy made Mummy cry to his parent of the same name, sent AFL hard man Viney to the Austin Hospital with a genuine fair bump of perfect technical execution, kicked an inside out torp goal, nailed a 70m torp from half back, took spectacular marks at will, famously high fived opponent E Betts who had fluked a boundary goal against him, and turned up to a team meeting with a KFC 5 piece pack, all things King will never match. 😁

So why compare King to chumps like N Riewoldt and T Hawkins? Compare him to this legend and you will see how slow his development has actually been. And honestly, how good a rap artist is Max “late to the party” King? 😎
 
Yeah, he will be a gun but let's just let his footy do the talking.

What happens when he has a quiet one next week?

He's still very young.
 
Yeah, he will be a gun but let's just let his footy do the talking.

What happens when he has a quiet one next week?

He's still very young.
He probably will have a quiet one next week. In fact, he might well have a couple of quiet ones.

Key forwards usually take a while- Jonathon Brown didn't kick 40 goals in a season until his 8th season. 8 years! Tom Hawkins did it in his 6th.

But the potential I've always seen in King, and his efforts from the back half of 2021 and first 3 rounds of 2022, make me more excited as a Saints fan than I have been about anybody, since perhaps the former #12

Honestly it's injuries that worry me- both King brothers have done an ACL and Max has had a serious ankle too, and they're only 21. That's a bit concerning. At 200cm, injuries seem inherently more likely to me too.

Anyway, I'm not getting ahead of myself but just very excited by what he's showing
 

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I say this as a surly supporter, but in 2022, any dominant display in the 4th quarter against Richmond has an asterisk, such is our awful form-line running out games

Like yeah he is going to be a great player, but cool your jets about Sunday
 
He's playing well in patches but still has a way to go to reach the heights of "elite KPF" Noah Balta.
 
He’s very very good.
Would love one of him, Naughton, McKay or Curnow in our forwardline right now.
 
He was awesome yesterday and definitely a guy you can build a forward line around.

Ideally you’d like another big forward with him, but they have a lot of good options up there with Membrey, Hayes, Butler, Griesham, Wood and Higgins.

Big gun forwards are a fairly rare commodity in todays game looking around the competition, so Max is worth his weight in gold.
 

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Obviously very happy with our contingent of tall forwards at Carlton but I would trade any of them for King. He's the real deal and going to be an absolute star of the competition for a long long time.

Really?

The Curnow / Mckay combo looks like it could be absolutely anything. Two very different styles and talent profiles, and a Coleman already in the bag
 

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