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[NikkiNoo]

Think this is pathetic by the umpires regarding the franklin goal. Basically saying if you are going to kick a great goal then the rules don't apply as they wouldn't want to get in the way of that. Clearly ran way too far.

"But, they are standing by their call not to penalise Lance Franklin for "probably" running too far in what will go down as one of the goals of the season"

"It still could be [goal of the year], because we didn't pay a free kick."

As was pointed out in another thread just recently, Eddie's goal in the showdown that was touched was also a great (almost) goal. That one was correctly denied and so should have Franklin's.

 

[GameofSloanes]

Think this is pathetic by the umpires regarding the franklin goal. Basically saying if you are going to kick a great goal then the rules don't apply as they wouldn't want to get in the way of that. Clearly ran way too far.

"But, they are standing by their call not to penalise Lance Franklin for "probably" running too far in what will go down as one of the goals of the season"

"It still could be [goal of the year], because we didn't pay a free kick."

Excellent and correct post

 

[SugarShane]

Think this is pathetic by the umpires regarding the franklin goal. Basically saying if you are going to kick a great goal then the rules don't apply as they wouldn't want to get in the way of that. Clearly ran way too far.

"But, they are standing by their call not to penalise Lance Franklin for "probably" running too far in what will go down as one of the goals of the season"

"It still could be [goal of the year], because we didn't pay a free kick."

It's ****ing ridiculous. Imagine in cricket that a team is 9/250 chasing 265, and in the first ball of the last over the batsman is plumb lbw, but the umpire gives it not out because of a sense of theatre.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Wow I'm surprised the ump boss actually admitted it was a wrong decision but too late now, thank God that didn't happen in a final would be the biggest meltdown on AFC BF in history.

 

[Vhaluus]

Wow I'm surprised the ump boss actually admitted it was a wrong decision but too late now, thank God that didn't happen in a final would be the biggest meltdown on AFC BF in history.

They only admitted a mistake because it had 0 impact on our top 2 finish.

If there was anything at stake for us it'd have been denied.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

Think this is pathetic by the umpires regarding the franklin goal. Basically saying if you are going to kick a great goal then the rules don't apply as they wouldn't want to get in the way of that. Clearly ran way too far.

"But, they are standing by their call not to penalise Lance Franklin for "probably" running too far in what will go down as one of the goals of the season"

"It still could be [goal of the year], because we didn't pay a free kick."

What about Eddie Betts vs Port the other week. The hairs on Hartletts knuckles skimmed the ball and goal was reversed. That was much better than Buddy's goal

 

[Power04Surge]

What about Eddie Betts vs Port the other week. The hairs on Hartletts knuckles skimmed the ball and goal was reversed. That was much better than Buddy's goal

Hey we needed all the help we could get against you guys!

 

[beartoo]

I actually don't mind what happened in the grand scheme of things.

We had the rub of the green all night and there was a big free kick count discrepancy. Until the Mills incident, the perception was we were being gifted easy frees. If we had have won, the media would be discussing how Adelaide get home town bias, "crowd affirmation" etc leading in to finals. The umpires would have then officiated accordingly in the first final - making it harder for us. You know what the umpires are like - they respond to the trends.

Instead, we got reamed on that decision, and everyone from Roos to Brereton to Whateley are saying we got the rough end of the pineapple.

So you prefer commentators to say nice things about us rather than win a game.....okay.....

 

[pjcrows]

So you prefer commentators to say nice things about us rather than win a game.....okay.....

Yeah that's what I said...

 

[Ozzie]

I read the teams and the umpires on Thursday night and said to the wife."Sydney will win this look who is umpiring Chris "ding dong Donlon, The Pannell beater and a young pup". She agreed with me. Look what happened, 2 woeful decisions by Pannell (he should be made to retire) and then the freakin Franklin run too far but somehow overlooked and now regarded as the GOTY. It's an absolute joke.

 

[Moonwatcher]

If in doubt, Mills should have been called back behind the mark, I thought the player had the right to hold another player up if he's gone beyond his mark in the marking attempt.

This is the way it is always handled if the player with the ball is forward of his mark. The only restrictions on the player attempting to stand the mark is not to prevent the player from going back behind his mark and not going over the mark himself.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

 

[Bovo]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

Yes. Are you here to dispute any of the free kicks against you? This thread is about a free kick which had a direct impact on the game.

But at the same time I don't think it is fair to look at that free kick in isolation. A lot of things went right and wrong for both teams. It was a fantastic game that entertained the fans. At the end of the day our goal kicking was the reason we lost. Kudos to your team who kicked very well and had the nerve to convert when the pressure was on.

 

[pirate bob]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-21/umps-got-it-wrong-on-betts-50m-penalty-afl

go away .. you won

 

[moogerfooger]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

penalty count? do you even football?

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Yes. Are you here to dispute any of the free kicks against you? This thread is about a free kick which had a direct impact on the game.

But at the same time I don't think it is fair to look at that free kick in isolation. A lot of things went right and wrong for both teams. It was a fantastic game that entertained the fans. At the end of the day our goal kicking was the reason we lost. Kudos to your team who kicked very well and had the nerve to convert when the pressure was on.

The mills decision was undoubtedly wrong. No dispute from me. He played on but wasn't called. The franklin non decision I thought was fine. He takes long strides and watching it live it and on replay it didn't even occur to me he went too far if he did. The htb decision oob was consistent with prior interpretations. Don't see a problem tbh.

 

[Vhaluus]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

Except it wasn't ridiculed? Even the commentators during the game when it was pointed out to them said "I haven't noticed the umpires"

If you didn't want the free kick count to be so skewed perhaps your guys should have stopped holding Sloane off the ball.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Except it wasn't ridiculed? Even the commentators during the game when it was pointed out to them said "I haven't noticed the umpires"

If you didn't want the free kick count to be so skewed perhaps your guys should have stopped holding Sloane off the ball.

"I don't ever like to talk about umpires but the bias against sydney on Friday night was horrendous" Tim watson. Many more same opinion

Umpire bias occurs subconsciously because of spectator support and media. You can suggest the free outcome was a job on sloane but the bias was more to do with frees not given for same interpretations.

 

[pirate bob]

"I don't ever like to talk about umpires but the bias against sydney on Friday night was horrendous" Tim watson. Many more same opinion

Umpire bias occurs subconsciously because of spectator support and media. You can suggest the free outcome was a job on sloane but the bias was more to do with frees not given for same interpretations.

Seriously mate, just go away.

 

[Iron]

"I don't ever like to talk about umpires but the bias against sydney on Friday night was horrendous" Tim watson. Many more same opinion

Umpire bias occurs subconsciously because of spectator support and media. You can suggest the free outcome was a job on sloane but the bias was more to do with frees not given for same interpretations.

In all seriousness lots of those frees were for holds and the like. You executed them poorly and got done.

Don't recall too many questionable decisions our way but feel free to enlighten us. The count is irrelevant unless you're talking 17-1 or something.

 

[Cap]

Yeah Vic media complaining about bias when it happens out of Victoria.

Real suprised.

 

[crowsup]

You know you won the penalty count 28-14 in an show that was heavily criticised and rightly ridiculed for umpire bias in your favour? You know that right?

Yea. Can you please point out the incorrect frees given to us, as well as the frees you should have got but didn't?

 

[MarcusP2]

Watson having a melt despite the Crows being in the middle of the free kick differential ladder - we generate a lot of stoppages so there are a lot of free kicks. We average what, +1.5 a game over 10 years? 8 of those free kicks were for holding Sloane, lol.

 

[Vhaluus]

"I don't ever like to talk about umpires but the bias against sydney on Friday night was horrendous" Tim watson. Many more same opinion

Umpire bias occurs subconsciously because of spectator support and media. You can suggest the free outcome was a job on sloane but the bias was more to do with frees not given for same interpretations.

IF you listen to Tim Watsons opinion on anything you're the one who should be subject to ridicule.

He's still arguing that Essendon did nothing wrong.

 

[Vhaluus]

Watson having a melt despite the Crows being in the middle of the free kick differential ladder - we generate a lot of stoppages so there are a lot of free kicks. We average what, +1.5 a game over 10 years? 8 of those free kicks were for holding Sloane, lol.

We also got a bunch of free kicks for good tackles that were called holding the ball or illegal disposal.