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Mitchell Johnson

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Agree with what's been posted in this thread.

There has been a significant decline in the quality of Johnson's bowling in the past 18 months. Johnson's not a McGrath type line & length bowler, or a Hilfenhaus type swing bowler and never will be. So why is he trying to be something he is not?

Johnson's at his best when he's bowling fast, getting some bounce of the deck and bolwing the ball at an awkward angle across the bat.

On form he shouldn't be in the national side.
 
He's been mostly rubbish. Soft as butter. So much loose crap, which often seem to get wickets - that cant just keep happening for a player. He could very well implode this series, although not many of the English batsmen seem the type to put someone to the sword (bar a fit Pieterson).

Probably my least favourite bowler to watch as well.
 

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amer said:
Go to 2:13 in this video:

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Also note 1:13. Smooth, upright, landing the ball on a beautiful length and getting some movement off the seam in the opposite direction to his traditional "angle across" delivery.

Now go watch some footage of his bowling in England last year.

The bloke in that video there, that's who Dennis Lillee saw and was blown away by, not the awkward, low, slingy pie chucker ambling in now. I suspect the change was made in an attempt to get the seam upright and to more consistently swing the ball, with a look towards "completing" the package, but it has had the reverse effect. As was mentioned in another thread recently, Troy Cooley has form with this, ruining Anderson for a time.
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I haven't watched the footage, but I have noticed that he is very slumped over when he hits the crease now and seems to be bowling with more of a slingers action. When he was bowling at his best he seemed to be a lot more upright and compact (well compact for Johnson).
 
BACCS said:
Damn, that was an absolute joffa of a delivery! Comparing his bowling from now to then, is like comparing Mick Lewis to Glenn Mcgrath. So then, what is stopping him from returning to that type of form? Surely he has to take some of the responsibility for how he bowls, and not just Cooley?
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perhaps he has spent more time pumping on weights rather than spending more time bowling?

ok you can be big and strong from pumping weights, but you use different muscles with regards to bowling. perhaps he needs to alter his focus or just play cricket rather than invest too much time in sports science! shane watson had an issue a while back when he was injury prone because he was gym fit from doing 6 hours of weights 6 days a week, but was not cricket fit.

i dont think glenn mcgrath was a particularly statuesque sample, he had a rock solid forearm, but he got lots of people out

the same with stuart clark

and then... there's shane warne :rolleyes:
 
Johnson is a massive confidence guy, that much is obvious. Soft as butter, if a little thing upsets him he is stuffed.

He needs to bowl a good 30-40 overs in an innings at the start of the summer to get his mind forgetting about the crap coaching and just come in and bowl.

IMHO it looks like he is having trouble reading the ball out of the bowlers hand when he is batting. Maybe he needs some glasses!
 
Johnson has always had talent and has serious ability to take wickets in patches and bags.

But he domestic watchers also knew he had regular periods in his game where he would bowl waywardly, lose his line in particular and struggle to get it back. He was brought into the Australian team an unfinished product even at the Shield level.

Some of his early games for Australia he bowled a mixed bag but kept taking wickets and quickly, all to quickly found his way to the number 1 bowler spot when in previous years he would have stayed as the supporting role.

He's just were Australian cricket is at the moment, were expecting to much from players who are not the champions of yester year.
 
CAS79 said:
Johnson has always had talent and has serious ability to take wickets in patches and bags.

But he domestic watchers also knew he had regular periods in his game where he would bowl waywardly, lose his line in particular and struggle to get it back. He was brought into the Australian team an unfinished product even at the Shield level.

Some of his early games for Australia he bowled a mixed bag but kept taking wickets and quickly, all to quickly found his way to the number 1 bowler spot when in previous years he would have stayed as the supporting role.

He's just were Australian cricket is at the moment, were expecting to much from players who are not the champions of yester year.
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QFT :thumbsu:
 
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pickman said:
Agree with what's been posted in this thread.

There has been a significant decline in the quality of Johnson's bowling in the past 18 months. Johnson's not a McGrath type line & length bowler, or a Hilfenhaus type swing bowler and never will be. So why is he trying to be something he is not?

Johnson's at his best when he's bowling fast, getting some bounce of the deck and bolwing the ball at an awkward angle across the bat.

On form he shouldn't be in the national side.
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He the left arm version Ntini. That is to say, both him and Ntini uses the awkard angle to trouble the batsmen.
 
Most of Mitch Johnson's deliveries don't actually hit the stumps, once the batsmen figured that out this year at Test level, they were able to play him far more selectively instead of chasing him outside off and getting a nick, which is how he got most his wickets last year.

He gets into a lovely side on position but his bowling arm doesn't properly go up and over and doesn't follow through properly most the time. That's why he has a real tendency to bowl really wide outside off to right handers, his bowling arm just doesn't go past his right thigh enough to bring the ball around. When he gets it right though, he is fearsome.

Also one of the softest temperments for a fast bowler I've ever seen, for someone who can bowl as nasty as he can. Apart from the odd incident where he just looked like a whingy petulent twat
 

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If you look closely, you can spot the rat running down his arm and turning around to bring the next rock into the world as Mitch gathers at the crease.

Should've been Johnson out, Bollinger in. What a slap in the face.
 
amer said:
If you look closely, you can spot the rat running down his arm and turning around to bring the next rock into the world as Mitch gathers at the crease.

Should've been Johnson out, Bollinger in. What a slap in the face.
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After making a 100 and taking 5/ at the G in SS. Kidding yourself.
 
Peter Siddle took a hat trick and a bag of 6 wickets to cement his place in the test XI for the remaining test matches provided he bowls in the right areas on a consistent basis and he is injury free.

Mitchell Johnson is a liability to the Australian test team. Gee, he gives us the X factor, but his bowling action needs constant attention.

With Wasim Akram offering him a free lesson to correct his action last year, I wonder why he never took up the offer. When the best left arm fast bowler of the 90s offers his assistance, would you take it up?

Mitchell has to be dropped for Doug the Rug.

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A comparison of Johnson to current Australian pace bowlers, along with "England's #1" James Anderson, "World class" Stuart Broad, and new kid on the block Steven Finn (includes today's play):

  • Mitchell Johnson - 29.46 average, 166 wickets, 53.98 strike rate, 3.27 economy rate
  • Ben Hilfenhaus - 31.65 average, 49 wickets, 60.20 strike rate, 3.03 economy rate
  • Peter Siddle - 29.48 average, 66 wickets, 58.47 strike rate, 3.03 economy rate
  • Shane Watson - 28.24 average, 41 wickets, 54.07 strike rate, 3.13 economy rate
  • Doug Bollinger - 23.79 average, 49 wickets, 45.45 strike rate, 3.14 economy rate
  • James Anderson - 31.78 average, 166 wickets, 57.42 strike rate, 3.32 economy rate
  • Stuart Broad - 34.40 average, 97 wickets, 64.87 strike rate, 3.18 economy rate
  • Steven Finn - 23.21 average, 32 wickets, 36.94 strike rate, 3.77 economy rate
Make of that what you will.
 
Was a bloody disappointing performance from Johnson today, he really has been struggling for a while now, while Sids, Watson and Doherty were building some decent pressure down one end he brought a lot of their good work undone by bowling pies down the other end, he was dispatched with ease all day and was the big disappointment of the day in what was an excellent day overall for the Aussies

The selectors will never drop Johnson, sure he might be picked mainly for his bowling but they will feel it will make our batting way too light on bringing in say Bollinger

Johnson is a shadow of that star that tore RSA to shreds in early 09, and doesn't look like ever replicating anything near what he produced in those series'
 
Johnson played well in his shield game so he deserved to play but I feel his time in the test side is running out fast. He's not accurate, he doesn't move the ball, he seem's to have slowed down to find accuracy and it's not working.

When batsmen stop slashing at his wide shit he'll stop getting wickets. Every one's got a look at him in world cricket and they aren't going to go out to him twice.

Bollinger or Starc are looking better options at the moment.
 

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