Teams My 2018 RDT Squad

[Bandicoot]

Billings wont b playing JLT by looks of things......no JLT means i aint picking....shame cos he was in my starting .

He may play the second JLT. I heard it was a very minor hamstring strain not a tear.

 

[happy_eagle]

The more I start to look at the players available, the more I am convinced that a Guns/Rookie strategy is the only way to go in this form of the game. I am only going to target mid pricers that I believe can be in the top 10 of their position at seasons end. This is really McGrath/Brayshaw in the backline and Walters/Petracca in the forward line.

I am not sure there is too much benefit to guys like Christensen, O'Meara, Stringer, Birchall in RDT (I think they are solid picks in AFL Fantasy where it is easier to move them on). Last year I had Zak Jones who was the absolute definition of a mid range non keeper (will score well, but not nearly enough to hold onto for a long time), and in the end it wasn't any easier to upgrade him to a gun than it was for a standard rookie (still needed a downgrade, upgrade trade for him)

 

[guero]

I personally like Rocky, Heeney and the cash (~70k). I think Rocky will lift back to that 115 mark this year easy enough. Heeney could be a little underpriced too, having the Interrupted pre-season could be the reason he fizzed out towards the end.

Menagola I think is basically maxed out, with the uncertainty with Gazza coming back, better off as an upgrade target, if he continued. Zorko would be a great unique to start the season, I'm playing the long game with him thou, hoping he throws up one really bad game (has form) and then try and jump on after a decent discount.

According to reports on the Port board Rocky struggled through the intraclub game last weekend with his sore shoulder. In conjunction with his bye round this now means he's an upgrade target for me. New club, new role, potentially tentative tackling...

This preseason has been interrupted for Heeney as well - minor knee surgery around Chrissie I think. The Swans had a secret squirrel intra last Friday...only info on it from SEN was that it was hot and Sam Reid kicked a couple of snags, don't know if Heeney played. Swans have a scratchie against GWS on the 23rd (from memory), will be interesting to see whether and how Heeney plays.

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

According to reports on the Port board Rocky struggled through the intraclub game last weekend with his sore shoulder. In conjunction with his bye round this now means he's an upgrade target for me. New club, new role, potentially tentative tackling...

This preseason has been interrupted for Heeney as well - minor knee surgery around Chrissie I think. The Swans had a secret squirrel intra last Friday...only info on it from SEN was that it was hot and Sam Reid kicked a couple of snags, don't know if Heeney played. Swans have a scratchie against GWS on the 23rd (from memory), will be interesting to see whether and how Heeney plays.

Knew Heeney had a slight hiccup but nothing compared to last year. I haven't been on other boards to read training / intraclub reports (not dismissing any of them, just don't have the time) that's definitely could change a few people's thought on Rocky.

 

[Bandicoot]

According to reports on the Port board Rocky struggled through the intraclub game last weekend with his sore shoulder. In conjunction with his bye round this now means he's an upgrade target for me. New club, new role, potentially tentative tackling...

This preseason has been interrupted for Heeney as well - minor knee surgery around Chrissie I think. The Swans had a secret squirrel intra last Friday...only info on it from SEN was that it was hot and Sam Reid kicked a couple of snags, don't know if Heeney played. Swans have a scratchie against GWS on the 23rd (from memory), will be interesting to see whether and how Heeney plays.

Let's wait and see how the JLT games pan out before coming to conclusions. If his shoulder is still sore then and he's not laying tackles, I'll decide then what to do with him. The round 10 bye does not really concern me. He is the only player I would have from either side and if I feel he can gain me an extra 10 points or more per week that will make up for him not being there in round 10.

 

[DaTBird187]

According to reports on the Port board Rocky struggled through the intraclub game last weekend with his sore shoulder. In conjunction with his bye round this now means he's an upgrade target for me. New club, new role, potentially tentative tackling...

I was at the intraclub and thought he played well, but his time was managed, as it was for most senior players who played. He made a couple of crunching tackles, kicked a good snap goal and was in and around the coalface as well as playing up forward. Intraclubs are all about fringe players pressing their claims. The top guys just do enough.

He's been voted into the leadership group by his peers without even playing a game, so the players rate him immensely.

He's 2nd picked behind Tom Mitchell for me.

 

[happy_eagle]

What I am rolling with pre JLT (after a couple of days looking at the new site).
Not so interested in the players, but rather the structure which I think provides an even balance across the board

Def: Laird, Lloyd, Hibberd, Ang.Brayshaw, O'Shea, Doedee (Keefe, Mirra)
Mid: Mitchell, Treloar, Rockliff, Neale, Coniglio, O'Meara, And.Brayshaw, Wigg (Smith, Higgins, Kelly)
Ruc: Jacobs, Gawn (Cameron)
Fwd: Billings, Heeney, Lynch (ade), Walters, Rayner, Ahern (Venables, Rioli)

I like the security of having 3 guns across the Backs and Forwards to start with. D4, M6 and F4 are where I may change (Brayshaw, O'Meara, Walters) to boost up one line ahead of another (eg Walters down to Christensen, O'Meara to Fyfe). Some of the guns and rookies are placeholder names at the moment subject to JLT.

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

The more I start to look at the players available, the more I am convinced that a Guns/Rookie strategy is the only way to go in this form of the game. I am only going to target mid pricers that I believe can be in the top 10 of their position at seasons end. This is really McGrath/Brayshaw in the backline and Walters/Petracca in the forward line.

I am not sure there is too much benefit to guys like Christensen, O'Meara, Stringer, Birchall in RDT (I think they are solid picks in AFL Fantasy where it is easier to move them on). Last year I had Zak Jones who was the absolute definition of a mid range non keeper (will score well, but not nearly enough to hold onto for a long time), and in the end it wasn't any easier to upgrade him to a gun than it was for a standard rookie (still needed a downgrade, upgrade trade for him)

Finding the right balance is really hard. I've never really achieved having all the top players come the end of the season, get close but like last year I always seem to get stuck with a Burton, Tuohy type.

Using Birchall as an example, for 380k if he could achieve an average of 83, that puts him within 9 points (from last years averages) of being top 6 defender. The ~260k saving could easily be used to make up those points. The same theory could then be applied to Birchall and starting a rookie instead, where the ~230k saving will make up the extra 25 points You could make on Birch.

Hard to know the right way to go, I do see some decent merit in Birchall if he's fit and ready to go round 1, like you thou I'm probably leaning more towards McGrath and Walters types.

 

[happy_eagle]

Finding the right balance is really hard. I've never really achieved having all the top players come the end of the season, get close but like last year I always seem to get stuck with a Burton, Tuohy type.

Using Birchall as an example, for 380k if he could achieve an average of 83, that puts him within 9 points (from last years averages) of being top 6 defender. The ~260k saving could easily be used to make up those points. The same theory could then be applied to Birchall and starting a rookie instead, where the ~230k saving will make up the extra 25 points You could make on Birch.

Hard to know the right way to go, I do see some decent merit in Birchall if he's fit and ready to go round 1, like you thou I'm probably leaning more towards McGrath and Walters types.

One thing to add some checks and balances to the guns/rookies approach is to always be aware of how many players you are going to need to upgrade. Right now I have a strategy where I have 2 definite backline upgrades, 2 in the mids and 2 in the forwards. Then I have what are the key 3 in my lineup and that is Angus Brayshaw, O'Meara and Walters. These are all guys that are capable of being keepers in their position, but they could also leave me with 9 required upgrades which may not seem a lot with 30 trades, but it does add up. How I pivot these 3 positions will be the key to how my side looks early days.

If you think Birchall can average close to 90 and remain a keep worthy backline player, then he is huge value. Otherwise you are spending 380k and not decreasing the number of required upgrades. I think Birchall is a great pick in AFL Fantasy where you get 2 trades every week and can ride his price rise to an easy upgrade, but its different in RDT.

 

[DaTBird187]

If you think Birchall can average close to 90 and remain a keep worthy backline player, then he is huge value. Otherwise you are spending 380k and not decreasing the number of required upgrades. I think Birchall is a great pick in AFL Fantasy where you get 2 trades every week and can ride his price rise to an easy upgrade, but its different in RDT.

Problem is he's $485,000 in AFL Fantasy.

 

[happy_eagle]

Problem is he's $485,000 in AFL Fantasy.

Didnt notice this, haven't had a gook look at AFL Fantasy stuff yet

Why is there a large discrepancy sometimes between AFL Fantasy and RDT, particularly with some rookie prices. I get the magic number might be different, but surely the calculation is the same (average * magic number)

 

[doona]

One thing to add some checks and balances to the guns/rookies approach is to always be aware of how many players you are going to need to upgrade. Right now I have a strategy where I have 2 definite backline upgrades, 2 in the mids and 2 in the forwards. Then I have what are the key 3 in my lineup and that is Angus Brayshaw, O'Meara and Walters.

My initial team I have to upgrade:

- Defence 2
- Midfield 3
- Forwards 2

Then 3 mid-pricers in Coniglio (M5), Walters (F3) & F4 (I am resting a few players there. 550k cap and not settled).

I have probably gone more expensive premo's/Also at the moment rocking 3 by 200K+ rookies. I don't go cheap on the bench either so that I can adjust easily over the JLT.

 

[Pea Nut]

Didnt notice this, haven't had a gook look at AFL Fantasy stuff yet

Why is there a large discrepancy sometimes between AFL Fantasy and RDT, particularly with some rookie prices. I get the magic number might be different, but surely the calculation is the same (average * magic number)

There's a lot more tinkering that goes on with Fantasy prices. They make sure there are no obvious cheap pick ups. Last year Sandi was one for example that had his price pumped compared with RDT, for no other reason than what he had scored in years past. There are always several examples each year.

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

One thing to add some checks and balances to the guns/rookies approach is to always be aware of how many players you are going to need to upgrade. Right now I have a strategy where I have 2 definite backline upgrades, 2 in the mids and 2 in the forwards. Then I have what are the key 3 in my lineup and that is Angus Brayshaw, O'Meara and Walters. These are all guys that are capable of being keepers in their position, but they could also leave me with 9 required upgrades which may not seem a lot with 30 trades, but it does add up. How I pivot these 3 positions will be the key to how my side looks early days.

If you think Birchall can average close to 90 and remain a keep worthy backline player, then he is huge value. Otherwise you are spending 380k and not decreasing the number of required upgrades. I think Birchall is a great pick in AFL Fantasy where you get 2 trades every week and can ride his price rise to an easy upgrade, but its different in RDT.

Yep 100% will be keeping an eye on how many upgrades will be required to upgrade my team, also need to keep in mind not all trades will be one up / one down, if you don't start with a Zerrett (or similar) most likely will need 2 down / 1 up.

I not 100% sold on the premium players in the backs and forwards this year, this is probably another reason why I'm happy to jump on multiple underpriced options in those positions. As it stands I'm looking at two of Wilson, McGrath, Brayshaw or Birchall for D3/4,I have Coniglio at M6, then 3 of Robinson, Parish, Walters or Petrecca at F2/3/4.
If over half of those pay off (get within 10 points of the top scorers) I'd be happy. The ones the stagnate should be an easy upgrade after hopefully being atleast serviceable til their byes.

I do toy with the idea of downgrading Danger, and bolstering those lines up a little more.

 

[Bandicoot]

Didnt notice this, haven't had a gook look at AFL Fantasy stuff yet

Why is there a large discrepancy sometimes between AFL Fantasy and RDT, particularly with some rookie prices. I get the magic number might be different, but surely the calculation is the same (average * magic number)

For those who only played a small number of games last year Fantasy base their price on the better of their last TWO years whereas RDT simply use their 2017 average and discount it due to their lack of games.

 

[PepeSilvia]

Well here's my first attempt for the year. No doubt it'll change a million times before the season starts, but I'm reasonably happy with the structure.

 

[Bandicoot]

One thing to add some checks and balances to the guns/rookies approach is to always be aware of how many players you are going to need to upgrade. Right now I have a strategy where I have 2 definite backline upgrades, 2 in the mids and 2 in the forwards. Then I have what are the key 3 in my lineup and that is Angus Brayshaw, O'Meara and Walters. These are all guys that are capable of being keepers in their position, but they could also leave me with 9 required upgrades which may not seem a lot with 30 trades, but it does add up. How I pivot these 3 positions will be the key to how my side looks early days.

If you think Birchall can average close to 90 and remain a keep worthy backline player, then he is huge value. Otherwise you are spending 380k and not decreasing the number of required upgrades. I think Birchall is a great pick in AFL Fantasy where you get 2 trades every week and can ride his price rise to an easy upgrade, but its different in RDT.

Priced at what he is in RDT, Birchall would be one of the first to be picked imo. He can be relied upon to regularly score around the 80 mark. Never going to give you 110 but will rarely give you a 50-. That 80 odd average would be good enough for him to be D6 at the end of year. This gives me an extra $250K to spend elsewhere.
Problem is that he has had very little pre season and is highly unlikely to start round 1. I would be quite happy if he didn't actually play his first game till around round 5 giving us time for a couple of rookies to moooo before bringing him in. As a result, I'm going to have to start with an extra rookie in the backline.

 

[Bandicoot]

Well here's my first attempt for the year. No doubt it'll change a million times before the season starts, but I'm reasonably happy with the structure.

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My biggest concern with your squad would be Wingard as I feel he will get even less mid field time than what he got last year so I don't see his score improving. In fact I think it will go backwards.
In addition to that, you are better off not having two premiums in round 10.

 

[CrozaN]

My biggest concern with your squad would be Wingard as I feel he will get even less mid field time than what he got last year so I don't see his score improving. In fact I think it will go backwards.
In addition to that, you are better off not having two premiums in round 10.

Heard somewhere that Wingard said himself he will play more forward this year??

Guess either Gray goes mid...or with Rocky/Motlop in, they take his mid time....im steering clear.

 

[Bandicoot]

Heard somewhere that Wingard said himself he will play more forward this year??

Guess either Gray goes mid...or with Rocky/Motlop in, they take his mid time....im steering clear.

Would think Rocky will be taking a lot of the midfield time that Wingard had last year. With both Gray and Wingard playing predominantly forward together with Watts and Motlop spending time there, they seem quite dangerous.

 

[Bandicoot]

How's your team structure looking atm.
Based on the following criteria:
Premium - over $600K
Mid - $401K - $599K
Low - $250K - $400K
Rook - Less than $250K
I currently look like
Defense P2, M2, L0, R4
Mids P5, M0, L1, R5
Ruck P1, M1, R1
Forward P1, M2, L2, R3
Total being P9, M5, L3, R13 and I am hoping all 5 Mid picks can remain as keepers meaning I could get away with only 6 major upgrades.

 

[melanChronic]

How's your team structure looking atm.
Based on the following criteria:
Premium - over $600K
Mid - $401K - $599K
Low - $250K - $400K
Rook - Less than $250K
I currently look like
Defense P2, M2, L0, R4
Mids P5, M0, L1, R5
Ruck P2, R1
Forward P1, M2, L2, R3
Total being P12, M4, L3, R13 and I am hoping all 4 Mid picks can remain as keepers meaning I could get away with only 6 major upgrades.

Looks like you've added on two mystery premiums? Otherwise you are fielding 32 players.

My count is
Back P3 M1 L0 R4
Mid P5 M0 L0 R6
Ruck P2 R1
Fwd P2 M2 L0 R4

Giving a total of P12 M3 R15.

If there are enough solid rookies in the forward and back line I will downgrade my two riskiest midprice boys and whack another premium in the mids.

 

[Bandicoot]

Looks like you've added on two mystery premiums? Otherwise you are fielding 32 players.

My count is
Back P3 M1 L0 R4
Mid P5 M0 L0 R6
Ruck P2 R1
Fwd P2 M2 L0 R4

Giving a total of P12 M3 R15.

If there are enough solid rookies in the forward and back line I will downgrade my two riskiest midprice boys and whack another premium in the mids.

Yeah, I've amended it accordingly.

 

[stringbean1919]

Question or Vote : Do you think The Forwards or Defenders are the toughest to pick with less options or weaker ?

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

Question or Vote : Do you think The Forwards or Defenders are the toughest to pick with less options or weaker ?

For me, the forwards are harder to pick as there are several backline mid-pricers that im bullish on and as such they havent left my team. There are not many gun forwards without question marks and while there are several mid-price options im finding it hard to find the right combination. In my opinion players such as Smith/Curnow/Petracca/Lobb/Walters/Robinson could all step up to average 90+ but picking the best combination is really tough. Then on the low end mid-pricers like Christensen/Ah Chee present value. Currently, apart from rookies, ive only locked in one forward and that is Barlow. So the forwards are definitely the hardest to pick this season for me.