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If a player wants out, a trade will get done. We saw it with Houston, clubs aren’t stupid enough to attempt to keep someone around who clearly doesn’t want to be there.
Saints probably won’t get what they deserve but that’s the way of it.
 
If a player wants out, a trade will get done. We saw it with Houston, clubs aren’t stupid enough to attempt to keep someone around who clearly doesn’t want to be there.
Saints probably won’t get what they deserve but that’s the way of it.
No one is arguing to the contrary.

The argument is to the value and being told well all we have is X doesn’t mean that’s what the saints will accept and the onus is on the club to satisfy the saints.
 
There will be a player or two on each SA list that will be willing to move back to Vic.

Maybe not to St Kilda. But they could end up with four 1st round picks out of it.

I wouldn't be that panicked about being completely ripped off if I was a St Kilda supporter.
 
He wasn’t out of contract but papley absolutely wanted out of Sydney his management even leaked it to the press

Of course he did but he was contracted big point of difference. That option isn't the same here.
 

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Of course he did but he was contracted big point of difference. That option isn't the same here.
He isn’t a free agent either.

A very important point that is constantly missed.

He cannot get to an SA club without a trade.

He won’t magically not get taken by West coast North Richmond or Essendon
 
He isn’t a free agent either.

A very important point that is constantly missed.

He cannot get to an SA club without a trade.

He won’t magically not get taken by West coast North Richmond or Essendon
Yeah, we tried that argument with Dawson.

Didn't stop Adelaide leveraging the preseason draft to rip us off.
 

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Doesn't mean teams aren't going to leverage everything they can to get him as cheap as possible, including St Kilda risking losing him for nothing.
Of course they will.

Doesn’t mean that’s what the outcome will be.

Again, the only fact of the matter is that to get to either port or Adelaide it needs to be via trade.

At this point, I’m sure we can all agree on that.

Which means the saints will have to feel somewhat satisfied in the return.
 
Oh look at that, Jay Clark chief football reporter for Herald Sun, just squashed Jon Ralph’s article about Adelaide’s ability to get a deal done and believes he will stay a saint (Source: First Crack)
It's because they won't put Jake Soligo (who's worth 8 first rounders) on the table
 
But what else would we realistically be able to give, assuming Saints can’t pry any of our best 22 players out?

I really hate to say it, but they might not have a choice

At least your proposals are considered unlike the Port guys who demanded Saints have no other option.

But reality is you’ll probably lose a guy you don’t want.

Saints don’t want future picks, so that’s probably meeting in the middle.

1 good young player + 26 and 27 1sts.
 
Has that been explicitly stated? Haven't heard much really.
Well you must be 100% tuned out.

He either stays at the Saints or goes to Crows or Port.

His manager is still negotiating with Stkilda and was in Melbourne Thursday and Friday including at the Club.
 
At least your proposals are considered unlike the Port guys who demanded Saints have no other option.

But reality is you’ll probably lose a guy you don’t want.

Saints don’t want future picks, so that’s probably meeting in the middle.

1 good young player + 26 and 27 1sts.
A good young player and picks in the 20s isnt a good offer.

Any club is going to have to find better picks than that.
 

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Ummm as I've said on posts before... If 3 first round picks are offered ( as an example ) and saints refuse that offer I can assure you that the AFL will step in and pretty much say to accept it REGARDLESS of the stupid nonsense of these picks potentially being late picks due to compromised drafts.. Especially if Saints said no to 3 firsts and were going to refuse trade to force him to sign with them knowing full well he wants to depart to SA ( if that is what happens ) and to stop a PSD situation because of stupid list management by Saints. Guaranteed the AFL will step in and pull the Saints in line. There is absolutely no way the Saints will refuse or argue with 3 first round picks. Even if it was 2 first round picks whether this year and 2026 or both futures in 2026 and 2027.. seriously there are some ignorant and silly people on here. Stop listening to people like Stav at Saints who is absolutely clueless.
Whatever you think mate, but people on here are rightfully expressing their desire for a fair trade. 3 picks in the 20s is not a fair trade for a 22 year old that’s one of the best players in the game.
 
Well you must be 100% tuned out.

He either stays at the Saints or goes to Crows or Port.

His manager is still negotiating with Stkilda and was in Melbourne Thursday and Friday including at the Club.
Didn't really answer my question there. You just said what the media is assuming. Has it ever been explicitly stated it's St Kilda or SA?
 

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