Player Watch Nathan Freeman

[THATSGOLD]

Freeman should take a restraining order out on you.

Well. Do you think he was a good pick up? Two years and doesn't even play vfl.

 

[jmac70]

Well. Do you think he was a good pick up? Two years and doesn't even play vfl.

Are you asking me to judge the merit of his signing based on an injury that the people who recruited him were unable to predict? If you are then you are a complete and utter moron. But you already knew that.

 

[the mighty T]

If he has re injured his hamstring, this is truly terrible news. I really can't imagine how he'd be feeling at the moment. Just gotta hope he can get it right and keep our fingers crossed

 

[Bucksboys]

Well. Do you think he was a good pick up? Two years and doesn't even play vfl.

You make yourself more ridiculous by the day, truly laughable that you crave negative attention like a small ignored child

 

[Kappa]

Well. Do you think he was a good pick up? Two years and doesn't even play vfl.

Do you think he should be delisted at the end of this year?

 

[Bucksboys]

Do you think he should be delisted at the end of this year?

Yes, but I doubt the Carlton board will take him, perhaps a 3 way trade with the Bay

 

[Kappa]

Seems like some people are more concerned about Freeman's hamstring than their own lives.
We can only wait and see what develops.
Making stupid posts won't change his fate.

Heh

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

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So has anyone actually confirmed this or are we just relying on some Twitter knob?

There's always someone wanting to intercede and spoil a story. Freeman'sFootyisFinished! There! I said it! In the absence of any facts other than the twitter, what else are you meant to believe? Concerning Freeman there is no good news, only bad news. Don't be deceived by those flinging bucket fulls of optimism at you or even those declaring inside knowledge. My pessimism has been channeled into contemplating Freeman's likely contribution to our future. He is a number on a list. A player whose torso taunts with his firm rippled folds. With his bulk he should be blowing sides apart but he doesn't cos he never plays. If he were to play in a Monty Python Sketch he would be the dead parrot. Bereft of life, e rests in peace. Already we have seen the best of him. Treasure the memories.

Maybe you should watch the Blackmores injury update video brought to you by Blackmores.

Also, don't think mattys123 would appreciate being called 'some Twitter knob'

Is that who it was? Big mistake there! A much respected guru of the knowledgeable members of our forum.

 

[Collingwood HQ]

How does that work Freeman goes from never having a injury throughout his high school and state games, to getting to collingwood a professional organisation with staff dedicated to his eating training etc. where he does hammy after hammy?? Is it the training loads on the younger bodies the increased gym sessions? Surely someone can figure it out.

 

[Bucksboys]

How does that work Freeman goes from never having a injury throughout his high school and state games, to getting to collingwood a professional organisation with staff dedicated to his eating training etc. where he does hammy after hammy?? Is it the training loads on the younger bodies the increased gym sessions? Surely someone can figure it out.

Have you seen modern football at the elite level

 

[BringouttheGimp]

something i did find interesting was listening to a guest speaker on sen. a physiotherapist. along the line of this: an 18 yr old is still developing physically. to expect a young freeman or scharenberg to do the work of a seasoned campaigner like a pendlebury is ludicrous. these young kids are still growing.. their muscles and bones havent matured as yet. afl clubs are pushing these kids too hard and expecting way too much of em too early.. to get them tp afl standard. that would act for the amt of injuries these young kids are getting. she went on to say that tese young kids training regime should be lessened somewhat to aleviate the chances of injury.. slowly but surely develop them into afl players as their bodies grow and mature. this will stop those niggly type of injuries and increase longevity in the game.

i think freeman would have benefited from a lesser burden on the training track. yes we need to rap these players in cotton wool at the beggining of their journey and increase the load in the 2nd and 3rd years of their careers. lets not push these kids too hard from the onset if we want them to play good quality footy for many years.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

How does that work Freeman goes from never having a injury throughout his high school and state games, to getting to collingwood a professional organisation with staff dedicated to his eating training etc. where he does hammy after hammy?? Is it the training loads on the younger bodies the increased gym sessions? Surely someone can figure it out.

refer to my post.. i think as an 18 yr old kid.. the first yr should be centred on coming to grips as to what's required.. not killing yourself out on the track to get a gig in your first yr. if you are still growing physically as a kid.. your bones and muscles are gonna give way. i think it is in my personal opinion perhaps he did push himself too hard. so very good question. moore scharenberg freeman have all suffered as a result of this. muscles bones that are not fully developed competing against seasoned campaigners and full blown adults. im thinking 1st yr is better reserved to playing at vfl level.. with a slightly lesser training burden than older senior players.

we will see kids like freeman scharenberg and moore play well into their 30s as a result. so increased longevity.

 

[ace andy]

something i did find interesting was listening to a guest speaker on sen. a physiotherapist. along the line of this: an 18 yr old is still developing physically. to expect a young freeman or scharenberg to do the work of a seasoned campaigner like a pendlebury is ludicrous. these young kids are still growing.. their muscles and bones havent matured as yet. afl clubs are pushing these kids too hard and expecting way too much of em too early.. to get them tp afl standard. that would act for the amt of injuries these young kids are getting. she went on to say that tese young kids training regime should be lessened somewhat to aleviate the chances of injury.. slowly but surely develop them into afl players as their bodies grow and mature. this will stop those niggly type of injuries and increase longevity in the game.

i think freeman would have benefited from a lesser burden on the training track. yes we need to rap these players in cotton wool at the beggining of their journey and increase the load in the 2nd and 3rd years of their careers. lets not push these kids too hard from the onset if we want them to play good quality footy for many years.

I'm uneducated in sports science but I would have thought the same thing. Thats why I really disliked Bucks comment the other year about pushing everyone to the same standard and if people break they break.

 

[Bucksboys]

I'm uneducated in sports science but I would have thought the same thing. Thats why I really disliked Bucks comment the other year about pushing everyone to the same standard and if people break they break.

If mugs like us have thought of it I'm pretty sure the science itself is all over it

And lets face it, this is as close to being a warrior as is allowed outside of war and our early hunter gatherer lifestyle and they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to take those risks

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I'm uneducated in sports science but I would have thought the same thing. Thats why I really disliked Bucks comment the other year about pushing everyone to the same standard and if people break they break.

not good is it.. but i think thats why we havent seen the kid play for 2 years. what a waste and pity really. something that could have been avoided if we were patient and smarter. you watch these kids in training highlight reels and it does look like they are over exerting themselves. its just too too big a step up from traing at TAC level to AFL level.. training should be more along the lines of TAC level/VFL level/AFL level.. gradually bring these kids up.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Pushing everyone to the same standard /= we don't individualise training programs. Honestly...

 

[BringouttheGimp]

If mugs like us have thought of it I'm pretty sure the science itself is all over it

And lets face it, this is as close to being a warrior as is allowed outside of war and our early hunter gatherer lifestyle and they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to take those risks

there are a lot of first yr players playing seniors across the afl.. wouldnt that mean they are training just as hard as the more senior players? that would suggest to me that the young kids are cause you just cant get picked in the 22 without doing the work. is it a risk worth taking? say de goey.. should he have played as many games as he has as an 18-19 yr old?

 

[Bucksboys]

there are a lot of first yr players playing seniors across the afl.. wouldnt that mean they are training just as hard as the more senior players? that would suggest to me that the young kids are cause you just cant get picked in the 22 without doing the work. is it a risk worth taking? say de goey.. should he have played as many games as he has as an 18-19 yr old?

No one in here has a degree in sports science and no one has clue one what the club is doing regarding individual programs so it's all conjecture at best.. a few sound bytes from the coach which in truth is usually just something to say to reporters questions because you have to say something isn't going to give you an insight into what's happening down at the club

 

[Anzacday]

Bucks said the other day that Swanny is on his own program and has really bought into it.
Surely there's proof they are learning from mistakes and trying different things.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

No one in here has a degree in sports science and no one has clue one what the club is doing regarding individual programs so it's all conjecture at best.. a few sound bytes from the coach which in truth is usually just something to say to reporters questions because you have to say something isn't going to give you an insight into what's happening down at the club

totally agree with you there.. but if we are going to conjecture on the level of training these kids are undertaking in comparison to the more seasoned campaigners.. if these kids are getting games ie de goey moore scharenberg.. youd think their training wouldn't be 80% of a pendlebury now would you? how else would they be playing seniors if their training regimes are lesser than those who have been around for 5 yrs.

and us mugs sometimes do no more than the likes of the Danks of this world.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

No one in here has a degree in sports science and no one has clue one what the club is doing regarding individual programs so it's all conjecture at best.. a few sound bytes from the coach which in truth is usually just something to say to reporters questions because you have to say something isn't going to give you an insight into what's happening down at the club

one thing you ca not discount.. regardless of what training regime these young 18-19 yr olds are on.. is the hard work required for them to earn their first game at senior level.. that to me is where the problem lies. the hard work. would rather have these kids play into their 30s than having them breakdown as 20 yr olds.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

say de goey.. should he have played as many games as he has as an 18-19 yr old?

De Goey was rested last week. Surely that would indicate that players are individually managed for training loads.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

De Goey was rested last week. Surely that would indicate that players are individually managed for training loads.

it may be.. but if their level of training isnt to the level of afl standard how is it that they are getting games.. are we settling at someone say in our bottom 6 of the 22 that have just done enough to earn a spot? if thats the case fair enough.. but how are they going to compete against the likes of players at other clubs who are training hammer and tongs?

 

[jmac70]

Apologies if this has already been covered but does anyone know what his contract situation is?

 

[ppoiter]

This is really

Apologies if this has already been covered but does anyone know what his contract situation is?

Thats what I came here to ask, that and are we sure the injury is related to his previous one, not some kind of compensation thing on his other hammy?