News New CBA reached.

[mattys123]

Just wondering how the new deal will effect Collingwood.

www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=127273

Rookies, the AFL's lowest-paid players with a minimum wage of just $35,000 in 2011, are big winners in the deal.

They'll receive a pay rise of 17 per cent next year, 19 per cent the year following and nine per cent in 2014, taking their yearly earnings to almost $54,000 plus match payments.

- Star players who promote the game and their clubs will receive extra payments.
- Abolishment of the veterans' list, with primary lists extended from 38 to 40.

www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=127273

I highlighted the bottom two points as they could be seen as the most relevant to our club.

With no veterans list from now on, surely we will have to renogotiate some of our newly signed deals, as you would suspect the likes of Didak and Swan may have had their latest contracts back ended with their big payouts to come in their final seasons when they are eligible for the old VL.

Thoughts.

 

[Bay Pie]

I think the veterans list is abolished in that the player lists move from 38 to 40.

I would think there will still be some type of veterans allowance which is more so part of the new free agency rules from 2013.

I'm very interested in how this will work and what the actual $$ amount is.

We've heard previously it will be unlimited players, that have 10 years service at the club and it 'may' be $100,000 per 10 year player that gets excluded from the salary cap.

Interesting that the salary cap will increase by almost $1M over the next 2 years. That's a bit of coin to keep our guns.

 

[Old Spice]

Expanding the list wont help with vets list payments, unless the salary cap is expanded.

 

[Bloben]

Does this take effect immediately or after next year? Seems a bit weird they would make changes to list numbers after clubs have finalised their lists.

 

[Old Spice]

And unless clubs are compensated for the vets list being axed without an increase in Total Player Payments, then that absulutely screws the forward planning / back-ending of contracts. Hopefully that component is phased in by 2015.

 

[Ed D]

The extra $600k next year comes in handy. With GWS & GC this is what was needed.

 

[10571z]

Im not looking forward to the whole pendlebury crap all year! I hope he signs early so it doesnt go on all year

 

[mattys123]

Does this take effect immediately or after next year? Seems a bit weird they would make changes to list numbers after clubs have finalised their lists.

I'm guessing that aspect doesn't kick in till 2013, although it seems this agreement as a whole starts in with the 2012 season, as in 2012 there will be a 7% increase in TPP (total player payments), and then small rises after that for the remaining years.

Maybe the rookie list is scrapped from next year though, can't find any clarification on that from any of the articles that have been produced since the announcement.

 

[Ed D]

I'm guessing that aspect doesn't kick in till 2013, although it seems this agreement as a whole starts in with the 2012 season, as in 2012 there will be a 7% increase in TPP (total player payments), and then small rises after that for the remaining years.

Maybe the rookie list is scrapped from next year though, can't find any clarification on that from any of the articles that have been produced since the announcement.

They announced rookie salaries have increased which would suggest there will be a rookie system.

 

[mattys123]

They announced rookie salaries have increased which would suggest there will be a rookie system.

Yeah, sorry, meant veterans list there where I said rookie list.

 

[Ed D]

Ahh got you, yeah I'm certain I read it's getting changed in 2013 where it's $100k per 10 year player and any player is eligible. Perhaps that's why they say the "list" is being abolished because that's the old system? It's not very clear, and it is confusing when they changed the veterans rule a month or two ago.

 

[blaze036]

surely, as this debate has been going on for 18 months, we had some idea that the vets list would be scrapped and we understood that when we did the swan deal at least and maybe others...i doubt it was a recent decision and certaintly wouldnt of been one haggled to death over between the AFL and AFLPA until yesterday. So i think we will have made allowances for it and not be effected too badly

 

[themidlandmaster]

Promo money to help us keep Pendles??

 

[vjknight]

Promo money to help us keep Pendles??

is pendles as marketable as daisy ?

from where i sit, pendles is only truly marketable when a certain blonde is by his side. daisy on the other hand appeals to the youth market.

it wouldnt surprise me to see daisy scoop the pool of this promo money and the other extra 600k referred to is mainly destined for pendles & cloke.

 

[mattys123]

is pendles as marketable as daisy ?

I think he is, Daisy is more marketable to the younger sector of our supporters, but IMO Pendles is the perfect role model for your club for the adult sector of the supporter base.

He's a clean cut, good behaving, born to lead type with an adult relationship with a model, cmon, how can that not appeal to a lot of the adult fans, especially the male ones lol.

And it's not like he's bad looking either, so the female fans flock to him also.

I think if anything, long term Pendles may be more marketable then someone like Daisy, but it helps if you have both of them.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Expanding the list wont help with vets list payments, unless the salary cap is expanded.

An increase in TPP really just means an increase in the salary cap - Using the logic that every club is essentially will be paying out close to the salary cap anyway, when you increase the cap, it means the players are getting more money.

 

[Old Spice]

An increase in TPP really just means an increase in the salary cap - Using the logic that every club is essentially will be paying out close to the salary cap anyway, when you increase the cap, it means the players are getting more money.

Yea that's my point. Without expanding the TPP / Cap you can't really compensate for the vet's list being junked.