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Isn't this the website made by a Pats fan to try to minimise Spy-gate? IIRC it gives some really weird weightings to various forms of "cheating"

Yep, angry ballistic salty Pats fan. Still, an interesting dive

 

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Holy faark .. the game has changed alright

 

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Heres the actual full game

 

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Heres the actual full game

Howie Long threatening to kill a dude in front of his family
3 QBs retired during the game.
They earned their money in this one

 

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Howie Long threatening to kill a dude in front of his family
3 QBs retired during the game.
They earned their money in this one

You'll enjoy this action a lot. Bears - Cardinals pre-season brawl. Bad blood between them.

Also posted this in the thread American Footbrawl....

 

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better video, shows some other fights during the game, and better video quality

 

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Sammy Baugh....what a beast. QB, DB, PK, and PU. He's still 3rd all-time for best net ave yards punting.

Probably a ton of stats about him I have never looked deeply into.

 

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Samuel Adrian Baugh (March 17, 1914 – December 17, 2008) was an American professional football player and coach. During his college and professional careers, he most notably played quarterback, but also played as a defensive back and punter. He played college football for the Horned Frogs at Texas Christian University, where he was a two-time All-American. He then played in the National Football League (NFL) for the Washington Redskins from 1937 to 1952. After his playing career, he served as a college coach for Hardin–Simmons University before coaching professionally for the New York Titans and the Houston Oilers.

Baugh led the Washington Redskins to winning the NFL Championship in 1937 and 1942 and was named NFL Player of the Year by the Washington D.C. Touchdown Club in 1947 and 1948 for his play. In both of his Player of the Year seasons, he led the league in completions, attempts, completion percentage, and yards. In 1947, he also led the league in passing touchdowns, interception percentage and passer rating.[2]

Primarily known for his passing prowess, Baugh led the league in completion percentage a record eight times, passing yards four times, and three times in passer rating,[3] among other statistics.[2] However, he was also known for his versatility—having the ability to play at a high level as a punter as well as a defensive back. Throughout his career, he led the league in yards per punt five times, as well as yardage in 1943, a year in which he also led the league in defensive interceptions, with 11.[2] His yards per punt of 51.4 during the 1940 season still stands as an NFL record as of 2020.[4]

Baugh was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the 17-member charter class of 1963, and was also selected to the NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team in 1994 and the NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team in 2019.

 

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Records[edit]​

By the time he retired, Baugh set 13 NFL records in three player positions: quarterback, punter, and defensive back. He is considered one of the all-time great football players.[16] He gave birth to the fanaticism of Redskins fans. As Michael Wilbon of The Washington Post says: "He brought not just victories but thrills and ignited Washington with a passion even the worst Redskins periods can barely diminish."[16] He was the first to play the position of quarterback as it is played today, the first to make of the forward pass an effective weapon rather than an "act of desperation".[16]

Two of his records as quarterback still stand: most seasons leading the league in passing (six; tied with Steve Young) and most seasons leading the league with the lowest interception percentage (five).[13] He is also fourth in highest single-season completion percentage (70.33), most seasons leading the league in yards gained (four) and most seasons leading the league in completion percentage (seven).[13]

As a punter, Baugh retired with the NFL record for highest punting average in a career (45.1 yards), and is still second all-time (Shane Lechler 46.5 yards), and has the best (51.4 in 1940) and fourth-best (48.7 in 1941) season marks.[5][13] He led the league in punting from 1940 through 1943.[14] As a defensive back, he was the first player in league history to intercept four passes in a game, and is the only player to lead the league in passing, punting, and interceptions in the same season.[5][13]

As one of the best-known of the early NFL quarterbacks, Baugh is likely to be compared to more recent great players. As noted by Michael Wilbon in The Washington Post, the football of Baugh's era was rounder at the ends and fatter in the middle than the one used today, making it far more difficult to pass well (or even to create a proper spiral).[16] Additionally, it is important to point out that pass-interference rules have intensified dramatically, inflating modern quarterbacks' statistics.[17]

 

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Best player ever. Unbelievable some of those stats honestly considering the year and field conditions they played on, you could imagine some of his punting stats today with indoor arenas/no wind. Hes a gadget player on steroids. Great at every phase.

 

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Not to mention playing every down pretty much, Baugh would be exhausted, mind blowing how he was able to put up those numbers. His fitness and mental toughness must have been through the roof.

 

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Not to mention playing every down pretty much, Baugh would be exhausted, mind blowing how he was able to put up those numbers. His fitness and mental toughness must have been through the roof.

And in those days there was literal violence, elbows, late hits, body slams, blind side hits, knees and punching, etc.

 

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Tommy Walker. Was a USC bandman, and also the Trojans kicker. He would be playing in the band, and whenever a kick needed to be made, he'd run out to the field

Tommy Walker was the guy who invented the "charge" bugle call at USC, which was what inspired Barron Hilton to name the LA AFL team Chargers.

Tommy Walker was also instrumental later in ideas for Disney World and Winter Olympics

 

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Biggest Tackle duos....

Chiefs could have...
Brown Jr 6'8 345
Faalale 6’9 390

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Eagles could have....
Mailata 6’8 350
Faalale 6’9 390

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2009-10 Vikings had...

Bryant McKinnie - 6'8", 360 lb
Phil Loadholt - 6-8", 343 lb

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Ravens had....
Ogden - 6’9 350
Brown Sr. - 6’7 360

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2018 Patriots had....

Brown 6'8 380
Cannon 6'6 335

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Eagles have...

Lane Johnson 6’6” 320
Jordan Mailata 6’8” 350

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Mailata listed at 365lb btw

 

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Top 10 End Zone Celebrations....

 

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Always thought Johnny Moreton's worm dance was the best. Also Gronk's robo spasm thing. Owens' mime act was too. And Steve Smith's slide down the goalpost (previous video).

 

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John McClain once shared a stream with Sammy Baugh​

Posted by Mike Florio on April 4, 2022, 12:36 PM EDT

Slingin’ Sammy Baugh could sling it in more ways than one.

John McClain, who retired last week after 47 years with the Houston Chronicle, told Peter King quite a memorable story for the latest Football Morning in America.

In 1998, McClain visited then-84-year-old Hall of Famer Sammy Baugh in Lubbock, Texas. Here’s the relevant part of the story.

“I get great stuff from him,” McClain said. “Five hours of tape. We go to leave, and Sammy, a great host, gives us peanut butter-and-jelly sandwiches for the road. And I ask him, ‘Why’d you choose to live way out here?’ And he says he loves living way out in the country. He says, ‘Anytime I want to take a piss, I can come out here and take it right off my porch.’ And he says, ‘I gotta take one now. You wanna join me?’

“Well, of course I did. So I did, and now I can say I got to take a piss with one of the greatest players of all time, right off his porch.”

Avid viewers of PFT Live will recognize that behavior. Chris Simms has confessed in the past to peeing off the porch when he was younger (eight not 38, presumably). He got away with it until the patch of grass onto which he would pee died.

 

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Background​

For many decades after its inception, American football was widely regarded as a second-tier sport behind baseball which was long-regarded as America's national pastime. As a result, the elite levels of American football lacked the financial wherewithal to consistently finance their own facilities and instead played primarily in ballparks hastily re-purposed for football. However, since gridiron football in particular is responsible for excessive wear and tear on a grass playing field, baseball clubs were not keen to see football played in their parks throughout the entire baseball season. Thus, the need to use ballparks played a large part in ensuring that the National Football League and early rivals would delay the start of their seasons until September when the baseball season was winding down, thus affording baseball teams the exclusive use of their facilities in the spring and summer.

Starting in the 1950s, a number of technological changes and trends eventually caused some to question the traditional timing of the American football season. In particular, football became a much more lucrative sport, the invention of artificial turf and developments in the growth and maintenance of natural grass made it more practical for baseball and football to be played at elite levels in the same facility at the same time, and the increasing influence of television combined with the prevalence of a farm system in which Major League Baseball controlled the rights to baseball levels in all levels of play caused many minor league baseball clubs (some of whom played in large facilities that could be easily re-purposed for major league football) to be much less lucrative in their own right.

It was in this environment, in 1965, that David Dixon, a New Orleans antiques dealer, who would be instrumental in bringing the New Orleans Saints (and building their current home stadium, the Superdome) to his hometown, began to envision football as a possible spring and summer sport.

This was not the first time the United States Football League name was used; there had been a previous, short-lived attempt in 1945 to start up a league with that name.

 

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Before today's 33 point Vikings comeback vs the Colts, these were the regular season and post-season greatest comebacks ever, a thorough list....

Greatest Comebacks in NFL History | Pro Football Hall of Fame

www.profootballhof.com

 

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From reddit....

Interim Head Coaches

The interim tag. No team wants to have an second head coach throughout an season, but it does happen from time to time.

I decided to compile a list of every single Interim Head Coach since 1933 (the start of the modern era of the NFL) and found some very interesting facts.

A few things to note

a) If an interim head coach ends up being promoted to an full-time head coach, then they do not count towards the list (The Bengals, Buccaneers, Cowboys, and Vikings do not feature on this list)

b) If said interim returns to head coach at least one full season with the same team. then they do not count towards the list (The Bills' Harvey Johnson, The Titans' Wally Lemm, and the 49ers' Jim Tomsula don't count as all 3 returned to head coach at least one full season with the same team).

With that being said, here are some of the facts I discovered....

1) The longest interim stint for an head coach was 14 games, set by the Commanders' Bill Austin in the 1970 NFL Season. Austin was the interim when Vince Lombardi passed away during the offseason due to stomach cancer (NOTE: Lombardi was slated to head coach the team in the 1970 season)

2) The most by one team is the New Orleans Saints, with 6 different interim head coaches (Ernie Hafferle in 1975, Dick Stanfel in 1980, Wade Phillips in 1985, Rick Venturi in 1996, Aaron Kromer and Joe Vitt in 2012)

3) Speaking of Wade Phillips, he is the only head coach to have three separate interim stints in NFL history (1985, when he took over for his dad, Bum Phillips with the Saints | 2003, when he took over for Dan Reeves with the Falcons | and in 2013, when he took over for Gary Kubiak with the Texans)

4) The most victimized head coach when it comes to interims is Marion Campbell, who, on three separate occasions, was either fired or retired mid-way through the season (Pat Peppler in 1975, Fred Bruney in 1985, and Jim Hanifan in 1989)

5) The Indianapolis Colts once had three interim head coaches who coached for at least half an season (John Sandusky in 1972, Joe Thomas in 1974, and Rick Venturi in 1991)

6) Only one interim head coach, Rich Bisaccia, has led his team to an playoff berth after being hired mid-way through the season.

Here is the entire list of interim head coaches, by alphabetical order of the teams.

The parentheses indicate what position the interims were at before being elevated to Head Coach.



Arizona Cardinals

1) Larry Wilson (Director of Pro Personnel) 1979 2-1 Bud Wilkinson

2) Hank Kuhlmann (Running Backs Coach) 1989 0-5 Gene Stallings



Atlanta Falcons

1) Pat Peppler (General Manager) 1976 3-6 Marion Campbell

2) Jim Hanifan (Assistant Head Coach) 1989 0-4 Marion Campbell

3) Wade Phillips (Defensive Coordinator) 2003 2-1 Dan Reeves

4) Emmitt Thomas (Defensive Backs Coach) 2007 1-3 Bobby Petrino

5) Raheem Morris (Defensive Coordinator) 2020 4-7 Dan Quinn



Baltimore Ravens

(NONE)


Buffalo Bills

1) Perry Fewell (Defensive Coordinator) 2009 3-4 Dick Jauron

2) Anthony Lynn (Running Backs Coach) 2017 0-1 Rex Ryan


Carolina Panthers

1) Perry Fewell (Secondary Coach) 2019 0-4 Ron Rivera

2) Steve Wilks (Secondary Coach) 2022 6-6 Matt Rhule


Chicago Bears

(NONE)



Cincinnati Bengals

(NONE)

(The three interims (Homer Rice, Bruce Coslet, and Dick LeBeau) were promoted)


Cleveland Browns

1) Dick Modzelewski (Defensive Coordinator) 1977 0-1 Forrest Gregg

2) Jim Shofner (Offensive Coordinator) 1990 1-6 Bud Carson

3) Terry Robiskie (Offensive Coordinator) 2004 1-4 Butch Davis

4) Gregg Williams (Defensive Coordinator) 2018 5-3 Hue Jackson



Dallas Cowboys

(NONE)

(The only interim (Jason Garrett) was promoted)



Denver Broncos

1) Ray Malavasi (Offensive Line Coach) 1966 4-8 Mac Speedie

2) Jerry Smith (Offensive Line Coach) 1971 2-3 Lou Saban

3) Eric Studesville (Running Backs Coach) 2010 1-3 Josh McDaniels

4) Jerry Rosburg (Senior Advisor) 2022 1-1 Nathaniel Hackett



Detroit Lions

1) Gary Moeller (Linebackers Coach) 2000 3-4 Bobby Ross

2) Dick Jauron (Defensive Coordinator) 2005 1-4 Steve Mariucci

3) Darrell Bevell (Offensive Coordinator) 2020 1-4 Matt Patricia

4) Robert Prince (Wide Receivers Coach) 2020 0-1 Darrell Bevell



Green Bay Packers

1) Joe Philbin (Offensive Coordinator) 2018 2-2 Mike McCarthy



Houston Texans

1) Wade Phillips (Defensive Coordinator) 2013 0-3 Gary Kubiak

2) Romeo Crennel (Associate Head Coach) 2020 4-8 Bill O'Brien



Baltimore/Indianapolis

1) John Sandusky (Defensive Coordinator) 1972 4-5 Don McCafferty

2) Joe Thomas (General Manager) 1974 2-9 Howard Schnellenberger

3) Hal Hunter (Offensive Line Coach) 1984 0-1 Frank Kush

4) Rick Venturi (Linebackers Coach) 1991 1-10 Ron Meyer

5) Jeff Saturday 2022 2-2 Frank Reich



Jacksonville Jaguars

1) Mel Tucker (Defensive Coordinator) 2011 2-3 Jack Del Rio

2) Darrell Bevell (Offensive Coordinator) 2021 1-3 Urban Meyer



Kansas City Chiefs

1) Tom Bettis (Defensive Backs Coach) 1977 1-6 Paul Wiggin



Oakland/Los Angeles/Las Vegas Raiders

1) Red Conkright (Defensive Line Coach) 1962 1-8 Marty Feldman

2) Tony Sparano (Offensive Line Coach) 2014 3-9 Dennis Allen

3) Rich Bisaccia (Special Teams Coach) 2021 7-5\* Jon Gruden



San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers

1) Ron Waller (Special Teams Coach) 1973 1-5 Harland Svare

2) June Jones (Quarterbacks Coach) 1998 3-7 Kevin Gilbride



Cleveland/St Louis/Los Angeles Rams

1) Art Lewis (Offensive Tackle) (P-HC) 1938 4-4 Hugo Bedzek

2) Joe Vitt (Linebackers Coach) 2005 4-7 Mike Martz

3) Jim Haslett (Defensive Coordinator) 2008 2-10 Scott Linehan

4) John Fassel (Special Teams Coordinator) 2016 0-3 Jeff Fisher



Miami Dolphins

1) Jim Bates (Defensive Coordinator) 2004 3-4 Dave Wannstedt

2) Todd Bowles (Secondary Head Coach) 2011 2-1 Tony Sparano

3) Dan Campbell (Tight Ends Head Coach) 2015 5-7 Joe Philbin



Minnesota Vikings

(NONE)

(Both Interims (Mike Tice and Leslie Frazier) were promoted)



Boston/New England Patriots

1) Phil Bengston 1972 1-4 John Mazur



New Orleans Saints

1) Ernie Hefferle (Director of Pro Personnel) 1975 1-7 John North

2) Dick Stanfel (Offensive Line Coach) 1980 1-3 Dick Nolan

3) Wade Phillips (Defensive Coordinator) 1985 1-3 Bum Phillips

4) Rick Venturi (Linebackers Coach) 1996 1-7 Jim Mora

5) Aaron Kromer (Offensive Line Coach) 2012 2-4 Sean Payton

6) Joe Vitt (Linebackers Coach) 2012 5-5 Aaron Kromer



New York Giants

1) Steve Spagnuolo (Defensive Coordinator) 2017 1-3 Ben McAdoo



New York Jets

1) Ken Shipp (Offensive Coordinator) 1975 1-4 Charley Winner

2) Mike Holovak (Director of Pro Personnel) 1976 0-1 Lou Holtz



Pittsburgh Steelers

(NONE)



Philadelphia Eagles

1) Wayne Millner (Assistant Head Coach) 1951 2-8 Bo McMillin

2) Fred Bruney (Defensive Backs Coach) 1985 1-0 Marion Campbell

3) Pat Shurmur (Offensive Coordinator) 2015 1-0 Chip Kelly



San Francisco 49ers

1) Fred O'Connor (Offensive Coordinator) 1978 1-6 Pete McCulley



Seattle Seahawks

1) Mike McCormack (General Manager) 1982 4-3 Jack Patera



Tampa Bay Buccaneers

(NONE)

(The only Interim (Richard Williamson) was promoted)



Houston Oiler/Tennessee Titans

1) Chuck Studley (Defensive Coordinator) 1983 2-8 Ed Biles



Boston/Washington Commanders

1) Dick Todd (Assistant Head Coach) 1951 5-4 Herman Ball

2) Bill Austin (Offensive Line Coach) 1970 6-8 Vince Lombardi

3) Terry Robiskie (Pass Game Coordinator) 2000 1-2 Norv Turner

4) Bill Callahan (Offensive Line Coach) 2019 3-8 Jay Gruden