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[Prefectionist]

How can you compare spectator sports to medicine?

Medicine used to be male dominated.

Now women form the majority of junior positions while men still hold the senior positions (with money and power)

I expect that to change in 10 to 20 years.

Equality in sport isn't independent of equality in society. I see the parallel there.

 

[Event Horizon]

Medicine used to be male dominated.

Now women form the majority of junior positions while men still hold the senior positions (with money and power)

I expect that to change in 10 to 20 years.

Equality in sport isn't independent of equality in society. I see the parallel there.

It's not about male dominated! It's not about whether woman can be as good a doctor as a man!
It's about what sporting spectacle people want to pay and see. And these are two different things entirely!
It has FA about equality. Which is a topic for another debate.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

It's not about male dominated! It's not about whether woman can be as good a doctor as a man!
It's about what sporting spectacle people want to pay and see. And these are two different things entirely!
It has FA about equality. Which is a topic for another debate.

It's about the opportunity, and giving everyone the choice to play or to watch either women or men. I think women's tennis is a better game to watch overall than men's, basketball I'm 50:50, footy I prefer the men. But each to their own and I'd rather have options. I'd also rather girls who were good at and loved footy didn't get told at 12 to pack it in and play netball instead.

And I think the point of the professions was that there was a time no-one imagine women excelling in them. (Like a dog walking in its hind legs, as the old quote went.) Now it's taken for granted by most people. We can't guess now where women could get to with footy if they were encouraged and paid to do it.

 

[Prefectionist]

It's not about male dominated! It's not about whether woman can be as good a doctor as a man!
It's about what sporting spectacle people want to pay and see. And these are two different things entirely!
It has FA about equality. Which is a topic for another debate.

Your missing my point.
It's not about as good as.
It's about a greater number of women having the capacity to reach a top level of a sport that previously they haven't been able to.

As for the better spectacle, that comes down to marketing and talent. And I think in time that a women's league would be a better spectacle. I'm probably in the minority now but not in the future.

 

[Event Horizon]

It's about the opportunity, and giving everyone the choice to play or to watch either women or men. I think women's tennis is a better game to watch overall than men's, basketball I'm 50:50, footy I prefer the men. But each to their own and I'd rather have options. I'd also rather girls who were good at and loved footy didn't get told at 12 to pack it in and play netball instead.

And I think the point of the professions was that there was a time no-one imagine women excelling in them. (Like a dog walking in its hind legs, as the old quote went.) Now it's taken for granted by most people. We can't guess now where women could get to with footy if they were encouraged and paid to do it.

All I am saying, that to build a league you need the audience. At the moment all it is, is an expensive PR stunt from the AFL. Time will tell.

 

[Event Horizon]

Your missing my point.
It's not about as good as.
It's about a greater number of women having the capacity to reach a top level of a sport that previously they haven't been able to.

As for the better spectacle, that comes down to marketing and talent. And I think in time that a women's league would be a better spectacle. I'm probably in the minority now but not in the future.

For greater number of women to participate, you don't need a national league. Why not try to add suburban female teams in every league? Then maybe a state league down the track. And only then, if there is sufficient interest, you go to a national league.

This is no where near a point for AFL needed to get involved IMO. How many senior women's teams exist currently? Why not build it at grassroots level first?

 

[Dodecahedron]

Confirming that the Father Daughter rule will apply when North gets its team.

Just ponder that for a moment.......

 

[LT Smash]

For greater number of women to participate, you don't need a national league. Why not try to add suburban female teams in every league? Then maybe a state league down the track. And only then, if there is sufficient interest, you go to a national league.

This is no where near a point for AFL needed to get involved IMO. How many senior women's teams exist currently? Why not build it at grassroots level first?

If it was grass roots local or state league, how many of the 8 clubs would bother to establish a team?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Confirming that the Father Daughter rule will apply when North gets its team.

Just ponder that for a moment.......

So we are going to get a lot of ziebell's judging by the rate bf posters offer up either themselves or their partners for the 'cause'.

 

[LT Smash]

They were just ahead of their time...

No they actually precipitated the death of the old national league by trying to exploit it for a few quick bucks and then when it looked like failing, they did the old cut'n'run. Soccer should be grateful that Collingwood and Carlton are such shittrucks.

 

[LT Smash]

I know. We'll start a VFA competition and after a golden era of domination and several unsuccessful bids to enter the national comp (due to the fear and loathing of 'bigger' clubs) we'll finally be granted a license in around 30 years or so.

With severe restrictions on recruiting zones, and only after our entire list has been strip mined.

 

[Doggy Dan]

It's important to reward the first movers. Dogs, **** off out of Good Friday.

You've never played on Good Friday???

 

[Arden]

You've never played on Good Friday???

And you had never had a team in a national women's Aussie Rules Comp before today.

Now **** off w***er.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

You've never played on Good Friday???

Ok, seeing you bit. Dogs are big on the rewards of doing the early work on women's footy and have been validated by the AFL on that today. But when North Melbourne and Carlton have worked for over a decade on Good Friday planning, or when North spend years playing VFL footy and building relationships and running clinics and doing legwork in Ballarat, Western is the first parasite to leech off that work and claim it deserves a place and shouldn't be shut out because it came late to the party. Rank hypocrites.

And they can **** off out of Friday nights, too.

 

[Arden]

Ok, seeing you bit. Dogs are big on the rewards of doing the early work on women's footy and have been validated by the AFL on that today. But when North Melbourne and Carlton have worked for over a decade on Good Friday planning, or when North spend years playing VFL footy and building relationships and running clinics and doing legwork in Ballarat, Western is the first parasite to leech off that work and claim it deserves a place and shouldn't be shut out because it came late to the party. Rank hypocrites.

And they can **** off out of Friday nights, too.

I love it when you get angry.

 

[Doggy Dan]

Ok, seeing you bit. Dogs are big on the rewards of doing the early work on women's footy and have been validated by the AFL on that today. But when North Melbourne and Carlton have worked for over a decade on Good Friday planning, or when North spend years playing VFL footy and building relationships and running clinics and doing legwork in Ballarat, Western is the first parasite to leech off that work and claim it deserves a place and shouldn't be shut out because it came late to the party. Rank hypocrites.

And they can **** off out of Friday nights, too.

Fair enough, but what were you actually doing for this decade you mention that you and Carlton were so mercilessly working on GF footy? Sweet FA it seems, asking a question every year for ten years hardly constitutes ownership.

Also, your relationship soured with the Ballarat Council because you clearly split your allegiances with Hobart. If you had built such a strong foundation in Ballarat, why was it so easily usurped? From the media coming out of the town the Dogs have done more community engagement work in their short time there then North ever did.

 

[Arden]

Fair enough, but what were you actually doing for this decade you mention that you and Carlton were so mercilessly working on GF footy? Sweet FA it seems, asking a question every year for ten years hardly constitutes ownership.

And what do you propose we do, other than ask the question? We don't write the draw but we have been asking for it a damn side longer than anyone else.

What did Essendon and Collingwood do, other than being the first teams to request a regular fixture on Anzac Day?

 

[Donkey Chop]

Fair enough, but what were you actually doing for this decade you mention that you and Carlton were so mercilessly working on GF footy? Sweet FA it seems, asking a question every year for ten years hardly constitutes ownership.

Also, your relationship soured with the Ballarat Council because you clearly split your allegiances with Hobart. If you had built such a strong foundation in Ballarat, why was it so easily usurped? From the media coming out of the town the Dogs have done more community engagement work in their short time there then North ever did.

Because the Dogs are getting a free feed out of it?

 

[Only Forwards]

Fair enough, but what were you actually doing for this decade you mention that you and Carlton were so mercilessly working on GF footy? Sweet FA it seems, asking a question every year for ten years hardly constitutes ownership.

Also, your relationship soured with the Ballarat Council because you clearly split your allegiances with Hobart. If you had built such a strong foundation in Ballarat, why was it so easily usurped? From the media coming out of the town the Dogs have done more community engagement work in their short time there then North ever did.

Why are you here?

 

[Marksup]

Confirming that the Father Daughter rule will apply when North gets its team.

Just ponder that for a moment.......

Carey.

 

[wandering123]

TBH I knew this was dead in the water once the AFL allocated Tasmania to GWS. I suspect that a large part of our submission was undermined by that decision.

 

[Dirty_11]

I was keen but now it's happened I am looking at the winning licenses and thinking there is no way I am barracking for any team wearing any of those jumpers - so I assume other supporters would feel the same about a North women's team - and I'm not sure about the model. I watched the TV game but I am not going to the ground to support any of those clubs - and I am predisposed to support women's football. I'd just rather watch a local team than an opposing AFL team. When North is in, I'm in, and not before.

There is no way I'll be promoting any of these clubs to my daughters. As soon as North get a side I will be getting my girls involved. Probably lucky they are still quite young.

Make no mistake though, this is what Collingwood and co are hoping for, cross-over support. This is why they are pushing a netball side.

 

[Dirty_11]

Right now in Junior footy in Melbourne support for Girls teams is going nuts.

It is growing but it wouldn't be close to netball's numbers.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

There is no way I'll be promoting any of these clubs to my daughters. As soon as North get a side I will be getting my girls involved. Probably lucky they are still quite young.

Make no mistake though, this is what Collingwood and co are hoping for, cross-over support. This is why they are pushing a netball side.

Collingwood doesn't need that - they have more than enough aligned families as it is. I think they just want to be a behemoth and not miss out on anything.

I suddenly realised yesterday that I was looking forward to supporting a North women's team, and when there wasn't going to be one next year, I had no interest any more. If they had made start-up women's teams, Big Bash-style, I'd have been ready to latch on.

 

[hotham]

I don't understood why the AFL have taken a staggered approach by not allowing all AFL clubs a license. So the clubs that have been selectively left out are at a disadvataged. It is also illogical that GWS is allocated Tasmania when two Vic clubs are foregoing home games to play there. No transperency just some clubs getting favoured over others