Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2025, Part 2

[terry_bright]

 

[cats_09]

This should be fun

 

[Tony Barber]

I did not expect them to pass it.

As I said previously. Now just watch for all of the other building that will occur.
You can bet your butt that people will be eyeing off pubs to build, restaurant leases, and definitely hotel groups will be in on this big time.

 

[jim boy]

I did not expect them to pass it.

Maybe the vote came down to "Do you not want to not support a negative resolution for the question of denying the permit for the building of the stadium?"

 

[CatToTheFuture]

As I said previously. Now just watch for all of the other building that will occur.
You can bet your butt that people will be eyeing off pubs to build, restaurant leases, and definitely hotel groups will be in on this big time.

I will be watching for the federal govt bailout

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Maybe the vote came down to "Do you not want to not support a negative resolution for the question of denying the permit for the building of the stadium?"

I think it's just a trap for modern democracies where we spend our lives being shocked by our own success that we think we can vote anything into existence.

Like the Athenians voting to go to war with Persia despite no one looking at a map

 

[Hamingja]

They only had to pork barrel 3 independents out of like 9 to get it through the upper house. Not difficult in politics.

 

[BIGANT]

Stick Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

moosh on Ben Stokes body, opinion won't change...Stokes is more a ginger frosted pretty boy then Oliver!

 

[Cataholic]

They only had to pork barrel 3 independents out of like 9 to get it through the upper house. Not difficult in politics.

1.5 billion dollars for the TT-Line debacle, plus cash injections to keep them out of bankruptcy, another 1.5 billion for the stadium which has a fair chance of becoming a similar fiasco, on top of the state's poor debt position and its recent downgrading of its credit rating is going to be hard going for its, say, 300,000 taxpayers.

The government says it won't raise taxes, so the only other option is for it to cut funding in other areas.

Will be a 'fun' watch.

 

[TomsBulgingDisc]

1.5 billion dollars for the TT-Line debacle, plus cash injections to keep them out of bankruptcy, another 1.5 billion for the stadium which has a fair chance of becoming a similar fiasco, on top of the state's poor debt position and its recent downgrading of its credit rating is going to be hard going for its, say, 300,000 taxpayers.

The government says it won't raise taxes, so the only other option is for it to cut funding in other areas.

Will be a 'fun' watch.

Going to be a bad time for sick or disadvantaged people in tassie for the foreseeable. No doubt the Liberals will be given the boot soon, and the incoming gov will be saddled with cleaning up their mess while the Liberals whine about the fiscal irresponsibility of it all.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Going to be a bad time for sick or disadvantaged people in tassie for the foreseeable. No doubt the Liberals will be given the boot soon, and the incoming gov will be saddled with cleaning up their mess while the Liberals whine about the fiscal irresponsibility of it all.

Labor seems borderline-unelectable in Tassie at the moment at state level.

Libs have gone through leadership changes, minority governments, scandals, problems, being forced to early elections against their will.....and Labor's made basically no progress for over a decade now.

 

[Cataholic]

Going to be a bad time for sick or disadvantaged people in tassie for the foreseeable. No doubt the Liberals will be given the boot soon, and the incoming gov will be saddled with cleaning up their mess while the Liberals whine about the fiscal irresponsibility of it all.

Tassie seems to be in quite a financial bind, and they're exacerbating it with another 1.5 billion dollars splurge.....and that's assuming it doesn't become a financial fiasco a la TT-Line.

I'm not sure either side of politics have the acumen right now to trade out of it, but as you say, it's quite likely the health, education and transport systems will suffer.

 

[Partridge]

I think it's just a trap for modern democracies where we spend our lives being shocked by our own success that we think we can vote anything into existence.

Like the Athenians voting to go to war with Persia despite no one looking at a map

Except the Athenians actually defeated them.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Going to be a bad time for sick or disadvantaged people in tassie for the foreseeable.

As someone who used to live in Tassie and still has a lot of family and friends there, it's always been a bad time to be sick or disadvantaged there. At least if you're sick but able, you can go to somewhere like Melbourne for treatment.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Except the Athenians actually defeated them.

Yeah eventually. I'm sure the Tasmanian state will get bailed out in the end

 

[Burro]

Conspiracy Warning.... Is history repeating? Remember 1986 or look it up. Tom Hafey, ex Collingwood great is coach of Geelong. New club Syney.... Hafey becomes their coach, but also does deals to get several Geelong players to go with him. Greg Williams, Bernard Toohey, David Bolton and a couple of others I think. This was all very shady at the time. So is that the AFL plan?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Conspiracy Warning.... Is history repeating? Remember 1986 or look it up. Tom Hafey, ex Collingwood great is coach of Geelong. New club Syney.... Hafey becomes their coach, but also does deals to get several Geelong players to go with him. Greg Williams, Bernard Toohey, David Bolton and a couple of others I think. This was all very shady at the time. So is that the AFL plan?

Miggt be buckleys plan but the AFL aren't smart enough for that kind of conspiracy

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Conspiracy Warning.... Is history repeating? Remember 1986 or look it up. Tom Hafey, ex Collingwood great is coach of Geelong. New club Syney.... Hafey becomes their coach, but also does deals to get several Geelong players to go with him. Greg Williams, Bernard Toohey, David Bolton and a couple of others I think. This was all very shady at the time. So is that the AFL plan?

The club is in a very different position now to then. We're now a club that does very well retaining players. We offer an environment in which most players feel comfortable and evidently enjoy being a part of. Not only that, but we frequently are sought after as an FA/trade destination for other players.

I can't see too many players suddenly deciding they would prefer Tasmania to Geelong. First of all, it means giving up on that highly-valued Geelong environment and culture and secondly it involves moving to a small, cold state with not a lot going on to begin a football side from scratch. Tasmania is not Sydney. There is a possibility that some players not getting games are prised out, like O. Henry, or a native like Kolo goes back if he's still kicking around.

Overall, though, it's going to be a hard sell. Thing about Tassie is, it's small and quiet, but it's also an AFL state already. It's not like Sydney or QLD, where they can bask in relative anonymity. Their exposure will be amplified living in those small towns.

It would be a testament to Buckley's influence if turned players over to his side in that span of time, to the extent a number of players would ditch their other coaches and teammates to follow him to an island. I'd be more concerned about losing off-field assets like Lappin to be honest.

 

[And_ROOS]

Conspiracy Warning.... Is history repeating? Remember 1986 or look it up. Tom Hafey, ex Collingwood great is coach of Geelong. New club Syney.... Hafey becomes their coach, but also does deals to get several Geelong players to go with him. Greg Williams, Bernard Toohey, David Bolton and a couple of others I think. This was all very shady at the time. So is that the AFL plan?

Thing is Hafey was head coach and had a good amount of time to build a relationship with the players who went with him, Buckley won't be at the club long enough.

 

[Play it Sam]

Thing is Hafey was head coach and had a good amount of time to build a relationship with the players who went with him, Buckley won't be at the club long enough.

And Buckley admits he's reading our playbook. Would be morally reprehensible for him to white ant our players, and since we're not stupid it's quite possible he gave an undertaking to keep his recruiting fingers clean.

 

[Burro]

The club is in a very different position now to then. We're now a club that does very well retaining players. We offer an environment in which most players feel comfortable and evidently enjoy being a part of. Not only that, but we frequently are sought after as an FA/trade destination for other players.

I can't see too many players suddenly deciding they would prefer Tasmania to Geelong. First of all, it means giving up on that highly-valued Geelong environment and culture and secondly it involves moving to a small, cold state with not a lot going on to begin a football side from scratch. Tasmania is not Sydney. There is a possibility that some players not getting games are prised out, like O. Henry, or a native like Kolo goes back if he's still kicking around.

Overall, though, it's going to be a hard sell. Thing about Tassie is, it's small and quiet, but it's also an AFL state already. It's not like Sydney or QLD, where they can bask in relative anonymity. Their exposure will be amplified living in those small towns.

It would be a testament to Buckley's influence if turned players over to his side in that span of time, to the extent a number of players would ditch their other coaches and teammates to follow him to an island. I'd be more concerned about losing off-field assets like Lappin to be honest.

I did say this in jest. BTW, Chris Scott is selling his Geelong house... what does it all mean.

 

[dudusmaximus]

I did say this in jest. BTW, Chris Scott is selling his Geelong house... what does it all mean.

He's moving into a bigger house?

 

[cats_09]

He's moving into a bigger house?

He bought Tom's farm until we have a new recruit ready to move in

 

[cats_09]

 

[cats_09]

Important Melbourne rebounder Jake Bowey will miss the opening months of the season as he faces a six-month lay-off due to foot surgery.

The rising defender felt for his foot at a recent training session and scans showed a dreaded lisfranc injury, and following consultations he is set for surgery this week.

Bowey will be ruled out for six months, which could take him out of the first 10 weeks of the 2026 season.

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