Not Worth A Thread - Random Bulldog Discussion

[Werewolf]

For anyone interested I have rated the Indigenous guernseys from best to worst. Here it is:

1. Hawthorn

Brilliant design. Experiments with some new colours which complement their standard colours very well. High level of detail in this one and a very original look which is distinctly indigenous in theme. This design bravely foregoes their trademark Hawk entirely but still stays loyal enough to their original colour pattern that is unmistakable who this guernsey belongs to.

Hawthorn's is the worst by a country mile. If I wasn't told it was theirs, I'd have no idea!

 

[Big Wal]

Going to a footy lunch on Saturday and the great man John Schultz is speaking along with Knuckles Neil Kerley about the old Vic SA rivalry.

Should be a rippa!

 

[King Harold]

Going to a footy lunch on Saturday and the great man John Schultz is speaking along with Knuckles Neil Kerley about the old Vic SA rivalry.

Should be a rippa!

What a great man Gentleman John is.
Have a great night Big Wal .

 

[spokey]

I envy all you Melbourne people!
I wish I was in Melbourne at the moment. Playing Collingwood really brings it home for me as I used to go the game with a good collingwood supporting friend, get smashed and have a great time. Anyway hope everyone has a good weekend and enjoys the game!

 

[Yojimbo]

I love all the themed rounds in the AFL at the moment we
have the Anzac day round the indigenous round and the
multicultural round, but i think there is room in the fixture
for a new round the Ginger round and come to think of it
a Ginger team of the century. People with red hair are
valued members of the community as well as integral to
the success of the AFL.

Come on Gillon make Ginger round a Reality.

 

[grassman75]

I love all the themed rounds in the AFL at the moment we
have the Anzac day round the indigenous round and the
multicultural round, but i think there is room in the fixture
for a new round the Ginger round and come to think of it
a Ginger team of the century. People with red hair are
valued members of the community as well as integral to
the success of the AFL.

Come on Gillon make Ginger round a Reality.

I want fat slob, to lazy to actually go to the footy, sitting on his/her couch watching on TV round

 

[Yojimbo]

I want fat slob, to lazy to actually go to the footy, sitting on his/her couch watching on TV round

I prefer the ginger round, your idea has a familiar theme unfortunately.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Love Adelaide's indigenous guernsey. GWS's looks likes a kids' party hat.

 

[TempletonTheRat]

We have a few Milestone games coming up

Roughy (98) should play his 100th in Rd 12 against Port away
Bont (47) should play his 50th in Rd 13 against the Cats at home
rd14 Bye
Hunter (46) should play his 50th in Rd 15 against the Swans away
Wood (95) should play his 100th in Rd 16 against the Tiges at home

4 wins would be nice

 

[Yojimbo]

First two picks at the national draft 2000 through 2015

2000- 10-Jordan McMahon, 26-Shane Birss.
2001- 10-Sam Power, 42-Keiran McGuiness.
2002- 4-Tim Walsh, 17-Cameron Faulkner.
2003- 1-Adam Cooney, 4-Farren Ray.
2004- 3-Ryan Griffen, 6-Tom Williams.
2005- 11-Shaun Higgins, 27-Dylan Addison.
2006- 11-Andrejs Everitt, 45-Brennan Stack.
2007- 5-Jarrad Grant, 19-Callan Ward.
2008- 14-Ayce Cordy f/s, 31-Jordan Roughead.
2009- 15-Christian Howard, 31-Jason Tutt.
2010- 22-Mitch Wallis f/s, 41-Tom Liberatore f/s.
2011- 17-Clay Smith, 39-Michael Talia.
2012- 5-Jake Stringer, 6-Jackson Macrae.
2013- 4-Marcus Bontempelli, 42-Matthew Fuller.
2014- 26-Toby McLean, 27-Lukas Webb.
2015- 25-Josh Dunkley, 26-Kieran Collins.

Interesting list after the bumper draft of 1999 which year was
our best one two punch, which years were the ones were
the walls were urine soaked?

 

[grassman75]

Toss up between 2010 and 2012 for mine. Prob 2012 because they weren't F/S picks as the best

Piss stained Y front years - most of them, but 2009, right when we needed to top up the list with quality was a total bust. 2002 stinks pretty bad too

 

[giblj]

Interesting little titbit from the AFL fan survey, we were voted the third most respected club amongst opposition supporters after Hawthorn and Sydney.

 

[dogsfan]

First two picks at the national draft 2000 through 2015

2000- 10-Jordan McMahon, 26-Shane Birss.
2001- 10-Sam Power, 42-Keiran McGuiness.
2002- 4-Tim Walsh, 17-Cameron Faulkner.
2003- 1-Adam Cooney, 4-Farren Ray.
2004- 3-Ryan Griffen, 6-Tom Williams.
2005- 11-Shaun Higgins, 27-Dylan Addison.
2006- 11-Andrejs Everitt, 45-Brennan Stack.
2007- 5-Jarrad Grant, 19-Callan Ward.
2008- 14-Ayce Cordy f/s, 31-Jordan Roughead.
2009- 15-Christian Howard, 31-Jason Tutt.
2010- 22-Mitch Wallis f/s, 41-Tom Liberatore f/s.
2011- 17-Clay Smith, 39-Michael Talia.
2012- 5-Jake Stringer, 6-Jackson Macrae.
2013- 4-Marcus Bontempelli, 42-Matthew Fuller.
2014- 26-Toby McLean, 27-Lukas Webb.
2015- 25-Josh Dunkley, 26-Kieran Collins.

Interesting list after the bumper draft of 1999 which year was
our best one two punch, which years were the ones were
the walls were urine soaked?

Looks like we wasted quite a few top 10 picks before 2012 but nailed them all and some more after that.

 

[Yojimbo]

Looks like we wasted quite a few top 10 picks before 2012 but nailed them all and some more after that.

Yeah that is true, iv'e actually done the same study for every team
and there is an eerily similar trend among most teams. I will post
the results in the next few days.

 

[immortalmike]

Interesting little titbit from the AFL fan survey, we were voted the third most respected club amongst opposition supporters after Hawthorn and Sydney.

Obviously no Saints, North or Crows supporters in that survey.

 

[TiAn_]

First two picks at the national draft 2000 through 2015

2000- 10-Jordan McMahon, 26-Shane Birss.
2001- 10-Sam Power, 42-Keiran McGuiness.
2002- 4-Tim Walsh, 17-Cameron Faulkner.
2003- 1-Adam Cooney, 4-Farren Ray.
2004- 3-Ryan Griffen, 6-Tom Williams.
2005- 11-Shaun Higgins, 27-Dylan Addison.
2006- 11-Andrejs Everitt, 45-Brennan Stack.
2007- 5-Jarrad Grant, 19-Callan Ward.
2008- 14-Ayce Cordy f/s, 31-Jordan Roughead.
2009- 15-Christian Howard, 31-Jason Tutt.
2010- 22-Mitch Wallis f/s, 41-Tom Liberatore f/s.
2011- 17-Clay Smith, 39-Michael Talia.
2012- 5-Jake Stringer, 6-Jackson Macrae.
2013- 4-Marcus Bontempelli, 42-Matthew Fuller.
2014- 26-Toby McLean, 27-Lukas Webb.
2015- 25-Josh Dunkley, 26-Kieran Collins.

Interesting list after the bumper draft of 1999 which year was
our best one two punch, which years were the ones were
the walls were urine soaked?

Having 3 top 10 picks and a #17 and #26 in 00-02 and coming away with Walsh, Power, McMahon, Faulkner and Birss is as big a reason as any we didn't win a flag 08-10.

Could very easily have ended up with two or more of Burgoyne, Dal Santo, McVeigh or Richards, who would have been handy. But we were Clayton'd viciously right up the backside.

 

[Pugz89]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Wood curse. Earlier in the year, he appeared on the footy show and subsequently missed that week and the next with hamstring issues, he appeared on 360 last week and missed last week along with the next two with hamstring issues again. Can we please put someone else up for tv media from now on.

 

[Doggies7]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Wood curse. Earlier in the year, he appeared on the footy show and subsequently missed that week and the next with hamstring issues, he appeared on 360 last week and missed last week along with the next two with hamstring issues again. Can we please put someone else up for tv media from now on.

Haha tongue firmly in cheek I hope

 

[immortalmike]

Haha tongue firmly in cheek I hope

No. Putting your tongue in your cheek is extremely bad luck. Now we'll definitely lose.

 

[Pugz89]

IF anyone wants a laugh, the following was posted on the Saints board..

"Our list is so young that they watch the Wiggles on the team bus."

 

[immortalmike]

IF anyone wants a laugh, the following was posted on the Saints board..

"Our list is so young that they watch the Wiggles on the team bus."

Close. They watch the Wiggles alright but it's with their grandchildren.

 

[Pugz89]

Close. They watch the Wiggles alright but it's with their grandchildren.

Saints' list is so young that when they sh!t themselves on the football field, they simply just go to the bench and get their nappies changed.

 

[Yojimbo]

This is a study of the first two draft picks between 2000 and
2015 expressed in two categories, retention and AFL
elsewhere as well as a summation of best draft year. What
this study shows is the advancement in recent years of the
information available to clubs on potential draftees. The first
two draft picks can be affected when trading for a gun
player as we have seen with Ryder, Treloar and Dangerfield
in recent years.

Adelaide.
Retention- 14/32 or 43.75 %
AFL Elsewhere- 11/32 or 34.37 %
Best Year- 2009, 13-Daniel Talia and 29-Jack Gunston.

Brisbane.
Retention- 9/32 or 28.12 %
AFL Elsewhere- 14/32 or 43.75 %
Best Year- 2008, 7-Daniel Rich and 25-Jack Redden.

Carlton.
Retention- 11/32 or 34.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 8/32 or 25.00 %
Best Year 2005, 1-Marc Murphy and 4-Josh Kennedy.

Collingwood.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 8/32 or 25.00 %
Best Year- 2005, 2-Dale Thomas and 5-Scott Pendlebury.

Essendon.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2008, 5-Michael Hurley and 23-David Zaharakis.

Fremantle.
Retention- 14/32 or 43.75 %
AFL Elsewhere- 6/32 or 18.75 %
Best Year- 2008, 3-Stephen Hill and 21-Hayden Ballantyne.

Geelong.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 13/32 or 40.62 %
Best Year- 2001, 8-Jimmy Bartel and 17-James Kelly.

Gold Coast.
Retention- 11/14 or 78.57 %
AFL Elsewhere- 1/14 or 7.14 %
Best Year- 2010, 1-David Swallow and 2-Harley Bennell.

GWS.
Retention- 8/12 or 66.66 %
AFL Elsewhere- 2/12 or 16.66 %
Best Year- 2011, 1-Jonathon Patton and 2-Stephen Coniglio.

Hawthorn.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2004, 2-Jarryd Roughead and 5-Lance Franklin.

Melbourne.
Retention- 12/32 or 37.50 %
AFL Elsewhere- 12/32 or 37.50 %
Best Year- 2014, 2-Christian Petracca and 3-Angus Brayshaw.

North Melbourne.
Retention- 17/32 or 53.12 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2008, 9-Jack Ziebell and 27-Sam Wright.

Port Adelaide.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 10/32 or 31.25 %
Best Year- 2000, 12-Shaun Burgoyne and 20-Kane Cornes.

Richmond.
Retention- 19/32 or 59.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 4/32 or 12.50 %
Best Year- 2007, 2-Trent Cotchin and 18-Alex Rance.

St Kilda.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2000, 1-Nick Riewoldt and 2-Justin Koschitzke.

Sydney.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2002, 5-Jarrad McVeigh and 34-Sean Dempster.

West Coast.
Retention- 19/32 or 59.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2001, 3-Chris Judd and 6-Ashley Sampi.

Western Bulldogs. (Yeah)
Retention- 11/32 or 34.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 13/32 or 40.62 %
Best Year- 2010, 22-Mitch Wallis and 41-Tom Liberatore.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

This is a study of the first two draft picks between 2000 and
2015 expressed in two categories, retention and AFL
elsewhere as well as a summation of best draft year. What
this study shows is the advancement in recent years of the
information available to clubs on potential draftees. The first
two draft picks can be affected when trading for a gun
player as we have seen with Ryder, Treloar and Dangerfield
in recent years.

Adelaide.
Retention- 14/32 or 43.75 %
AFL Elsewhere- 11/32 or 34.37 %
Best Year- 2009, 13-Daniel Talia and 29-Jack Gunston.

Brisbane.
Retention- 9/32 or 28.12 %
AFL Elsewhere- 14/32 or 43.75 %
Best Year- 2008, 7-Daniel Rich and 25-Jack Redden.

Carlton.
Retention- 11/32 or 34.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 8/32 or 25.00 %
Best Year 2005, 1-Marc Murphy and 4-Josh Kennedy.

Collingwood.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 8/32 or 25.00 %
Best Year- 2005, 2-Dale Thomas and 5-Scott Pendlebury.

Essendon.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2008, 5-Michael Hurley and 23-David Zaharakis.

Fremantle.
Retention- 14/32 or 43.75 %
AFL Elsewhere- 6/32 or 18.75 %
Best Year- 2008, 3-Stephen Hill and 21-Hayden Ballantyne.

Geelong.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 13/32 or 40.62 %
Best Year- 2001, 8-Jimmy Bartel and 17-James Kelly.

Gold Coast.
Retention- 11/14 or 78.57 %
AFL Elsewhere- 1/14 or 7.14 %
Best Year- 2010, 1-David Swallow and 2-Harley Bennell.

GWS.
Retention- 8/12 or 66.66 %
AFL Elsewhere- 2/12 or 16.66 %
Best Year- 2011, 1-Jonathon Patton and 2-Stephen Coniglio.

Hawthorn.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2004, 2-Jarryd Roughead and 5-Lance Franklin.

Melbourne.
Retention- 12/32 or 37.50 %
AFL Elsewhere- 12/32 or 37.50 %
Best Year- 2014, 2-Christian Petracca and 3-Angus Brayshaw.

North Melbourne.
Retention- 17/32 or 53.12 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2008, 9-Jack Ziebell and 27-Sam Wright.

Port Adelaide.
Retention- 16/32 or 50.00 %
AFL Elsewhere- 10/32 or 31.25 %
Best Year- 2000, 12-Shaun Burgoyne and 20-Kane Cornes.

Richmond.
Retention- 19/32 or 59.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 4/32 or 12.50 %
Best Year- 2007, 2-Trent Cotchin and 18-Alex Rance.

St Kilda.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 9/32 or 28.12 %
Best Year- 2000, 1-Nick Riewoldt and 2-Justin Koschitzke.

Sydney.
Retention- 13/32 or 40.62 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2002, 5-Jarrad McVeigh and 34-Sean Dempster.

West Coast.
Retention- 19/32 or 59.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 7/32 or 21.87 %
Best Year- 2001, 3-Chris Judd and 6-Ashley Sampi.

Western Bulldogs. (Yeah)
Retention- 11/32 or 34.37 %
AFL Elsewhere- 13/32 or 40.62 %
Best Year- 2010, 22-Mitch Wallis and 41-Tom Liberatore.

Same as the much vaunted Geelong drafting.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Photo taken at the time of the 2007 draft.

Some real hits, some real misses.

Can you name them all?

Spoiler

L to R
Jarrad Grant (Pick 5)
Trent Cotchin (Pick 2)
Matthew Kreuzer (Pick 1)
Brad Ebert (Pick 13)
Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10)
Chris Masten (Pick 3)
Cale Morton (Pick 4)