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Many will be in much surprise when they glance at the sports section today to see that Melbourne played the Cowboys in Sydney. They could even be forgiven for thinking this was a trial match when a crowd of 16,810, which included 20,000 free tickets, quarter filled the Sydney Football Stadium. Inside sources say that the crowd was a far cry from the quoted figure, but we'll leave that argument for another day.

More disconcerting for Rugby League followers must be the comments of NRL CEO David Gallop. He came out on Friday and declared it was played in Sydney to "ensure the integrity of the game". One can only gather from such a comment that it would have been even further embarassment to play this finals match down in the Southern Capital. This pseudo national sporting competition is trying to pass itself off as a national league, yet to ensure the integrity of the game, finals matches musn't be played outside of Sydney. It's a sad endictment of this code struggling to break through the ever shrinking boundaries of its geographic heartland.

Compare this to the AFL which over this finals series has thrown up a veritable smorgasbord of fierce interstate rivalry, accompanied by unique storylines and twists. This weekend we saw four clubs - four states - and now two AFL behemoths waiting in the wings. We saw sellouts for finals in Sydney, Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne, and the only thing stopping sellout Brisbane finals crowds was the fact that the Lions weren't a part of September action.

In perhaps the only unconquered market left by the AFL, the Sydney Swans have enjoyed saturation media coverage as they now command centre stage in the Sydney sporting landscape and bask in the goodwill of this country's most fickle sporting public. This is far beyond even the most fervent Storm fan's wildest dreams.

This Saturday will possibly see in excess of 4 million Australians tune into the AFL Grand Final making it the most watched sporting event in Australian television history. So as the remaining finals play out in spectacular fashion, AFL gets bigger and brassier, whilst the NRL is left pondering 2,500 ticket sales for a sudden death clash between the very teams which help them justify to us that it is a national rugby league.
 
amen to that friend. the NRL is a sad sorry excuse for a national competition who is afraid of change and expansion and thinks its still the nswrl. i commend the afl for what they are doing, putting the good of the game first over sad 'tradition'. some melbourne based afl teams play home and away games in hobart, launceston, darwin, GC and cairns. NRL is living in the past and really dont care about integrity at all.
 
When asked about the reception in Sydney after qualifying for the GayFL grand final:

Sydneysiders don't go too crazy about AFL it's mainly the papers and TV
- Ben Matthews, Sydney Swans player.

The AFL can spend a billion dollars on media hype but the people of Sydney still won't care.

How many people would have watched Port v Freemantle at the MCG?

The "AFL" is nothing more than a quaint provincial ballet style for persons of questionable intellect, morals and sexuality.
 
Argent said:
This Saturday will possibly see in excess of 4 million Australians tune into the AFL Grand Final making it the most watched sporting event in Australian television history. So as the remaining finals play out in spectacular fashion, AFL gets bigger and brassier, whilst the NRL is left pondering 2,500 ticket sales for a sudden death clash between the very teams which help them justify to us that it is a national rugby league.

Keep the hyberbole in focus Argy Bargy...its unlikely the game will exceed the ratings of the 2003 Rugby World Cup final...

When all the planets align and the swans make a grand final every 10 years, then we will see big ratings in Sydney... ( like in 1996..) The challenge for the AFL and television executives is getting them tuned in for every game ( which didn't happen after 1996...)

It will be interesting to see if the Swans win ( and I hope they do) what the reaction will be in Sydney the following week...whether peoples focus will be on the celebrations or the upcoming Rugby League GF....
 

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Port v Freo in Melbourne now that would be huge. Struggle to get 10k. Didn't one of the finals in Melbourne recent only half fill a stadium even with a Melbourne team involved? Not in footy mad Melbourne surely.

The rugby league final today looks packed to me.
 
Tamazoid said:
When asked about the reception in Sydney after qualifying for the GayFL grand final:
unsourced.. how convenient. Sydney is swept up in AFL hype and the papers saturated with what the public wants to read as the Swans take centre stage. The NRL will just have to wait until the season is over before they get on the back page again.


BuffaloRules said:
its unlikely the game will exceed the ratings of the 2003 Rugby World Cup final...
It's highly likely it will surpass the previous record, the 1996 AFL GF.

Rex said:
Port v Freo in Melbourne now that would be huge. Struggle to get 10k.
The last two times Melbourne hosted 2 non-Melbourne sides in finals they got 55,768 and 77,671. And they didn't give away 20,000 freebies either.
 
Argent said:
The last two times Melbourne hosted 2 non-Melbourne sides in finals they got 55,768 and 77,671. And they didn't give away 20,000 freebies either.

The NRL never gave away 20k freebies you twit. Late in the week they considered taking 20,000 off the system and ended up handing out tickets to the clubs involved in the earlier grades.

16,800 is a great result for two unloved teams with a week full of negative media on how low the crowd would be. Not far off one of the figures for the Melbourne AFL finals this year.

Why do you take glee in rubbishing another sport?
 
The fact remains that the NRL, yes that's an N before the RL, lacks integrity given that the finals system is flawed and finals are not played at home venues.

It's laughable that the intellect, morals and sexuality of AFL players and followers can be questioned when the NRL has had the likes of Hopoate whom was sent to the scrap heap yet was allowed to rise again.
 
36 thousand Tiger's fans today at the game!!!
SHAME SHAME SHAME The Dragons V Tiger's game can't be played at Telstra :thumbsdown: they would sellout easily!!!! But in saying that i got my tickets :D Go Da Tigers!
 
Argent said:
Many will be in much surprise when they glance at the sports section today to see that Melbourne played the Cowboys in Sydney. They could even be forgiven for thinking this was a trial match when a crowd of 16,810, which included 20,000 free tickets, quarter filled the Sydney Football Stadium.
quarter... maths not your strong point i guess?

Inside sources say that the crowd was a far cry from the quoted figure, but we'll leave that argument for another day.
The game was LIVE.. everybody saw the crowd.. nobody disagrees??

More disconcerting for Rugby League followers must be the comments of NRL CEO David Gallop. He came out on Friday and declared it was played in Sydney to "ensure the integrity of the game".
Yeah, stupid comment.

One can only gather from such a comment that it would have been even further embarassment to play this finals match down in the Southern Capital. This pseudo national sporting competition is trying to pass itself off as a national league, yet to ensure the integrity of the game, finals matches musn't be played outside of Sydney. It's a sad endictment of this code struggling to break through the ever shrinking boundaries of its geographic heartland.
"ever shrinking".. are you joking again?? (you must be).. there is nothing but rapid growth nationally for RL!!!!

Compare this to the AFL which over this finals series has thrown up a veritable smorgasbord of fierce interstate rivalry, accompanied by unique storylines and twists. This weekend we saw four clubs - four states - and now two AFL behemoths waiting in the wings. We saw sellouts for finals in Sydney, Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne, and the only thing stopping sellout Brisbane finals crowds was the fact that the Lions weren't a part of September action.
Congratulations AFL... whats that got to do with the NRL??? (nothing)

In perhaps the only unconquered market left by the AFL, the Sydney Swans have enjoyed saturation media coverage as they now command centre stage in the Sydney sporting landscape and bask in the goodwill of this country's most fickle sporting public. This is far beyond even the most fervent Storm fan's wildest dreams.
The last comment is fair, the first is uneducated spin doctoring... reality is there is nothing more important in Sydney right now than the NRL Finals Series!

This Saturday will possibly see in excess of 4 million Australians tune into the AFL Grand Final making it the most watched sporting event in Australian television history.
I think it could break the record !!!!

So as the remaining finals play out in spectacular fashion, AFL gets bigger and brassier, whilst the NRL is left pondering 2,500 ticket sales for a sudden death clash between the very teams which help them justify to us that it is a national rugby league.
You havent any idea have you??
 
littleduck said:
quarter... maths not your strong point i guess?

The game was LIVE.. everybody saw the crowd.. nobody disagrees??

Yeah, stupid comment.

"ever shrinking".. are you joking again?? (you must be).. there is nothing but rapid growth nationally for RL!!!!

Congratulations AFL... whats that got to do with the NRL??? (nothing)

The last comment is fair, the first is uneducated spin doctoring... reality is there is nothing more important in Sydney right now than the NRL Finals Series!

I think it could break the record !!!!

You havent any idea have you??

We all knew this was going to happen if the swans made the GF, yeah people will watch, but thats it.

I didn't watch the swans match, i don't know anyone who did, but the next morning you'd think it was the only game in town :rolleyes:

I guess the NRL will fold next year and all of NSW will be AFL fans aye. :rolleyes:
 

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To some extent our finals system is flawed. Ironically the AFL adopted the NRL system i.e. 1v4, 2v3 etc. and the NRL adopted the AFL 1... there was a lot of support for the Swans checking out a few bars with the game on the screen...

Most anti-league people wouldn't have had a clue about what Super League did to Rugby League...
 
littleduck said:
The game was LIVE.. everybody saw the crowd.. nobody disagrees??
The bloke must have been listening to Ray Hadley. He reckons, infact he outright said that he was informed that "officials" were walking in and out of the turnstiles clocking over the numbers. Not only that, he also went on to say this was done at all Storm games. He suggested that people were probably employed for this specific task for games where the Storm were involved. :confused:

Hadley said he was "tipped off by inside sources".

Oh yeah, and Ray also used the term "quarter full" when describing the crowd was nearer 10,000
 
dr nick said:
The bloke must have been listening to Ray Hadley. He reckons, infact he outright said that he was informed that "officials" were walking in and out of the turnstiles clocking over the numbers. Not only that, he also went on to say this was done at all Storm games. He suggested that people were probably employed for this specific task for games where the Storm were involved. :confused:

Hadley said he was "tipped off by inside sources".

Oh yeah, and Ray also used the term "quarter full" when describing the crowd was nearer 10,000


Ray Hadley is a goose!!! He does more harm to League then good!!!
The crowd yesterday was about right... I have been and seen so many games at Aussie Stadium that it's not hard to guess the crowd (Approx)... And it was about right!!! I remember Steve Roach or that other commentator Moore (I think) saying the Storm V Warriors game at Olympic Park which drew about 12,000 was closer to 3,000... What Drugs were they on??? It looked about 15,000 on TV!!!! 2GB and Singleton should just GET OVER THEIR PERSONAL CRUSADE againt the Storm!!! Central Coast will not get in the NRL Via the Storm.
 
dr nick said:
The bloke must have been listening to Ray Hadley. He reckons, infact he outright said that he was informed that "officials" were walking in and out of the turnstiles clocking over the numbers. Not only that, he also went on to say this was done at all Storm games. He suggested that people were probably employed for this specific task for games where the Storm were involved. :confused:

Hadley said he was "tipped off by inside sources".

Oh yeah, and Ray also used the term "quarter full" when describing the crowd was nearer 10,000


Anyone who listens to anything Roy says needs there head read.

He is the biggest blight on RL and i hope he gets run over by a big truck blasting it's horne, thats a big ten four big buddy.

Oh and i have watched every Storm game this year on Pay TV, they don't lie about their crowds, he just wants his boss to get the Storm to relocate to the CC, what an ****************,NRL need to tell him to pull his finger out.
 
Andrew Moore you mean? He's the one who does the Storm games in Melbourne.

I think Peter Moore is your beloved Bullfrog (RIP).
 
ParraEelsNRL said:
Anyone who listens to anything Roy says needs there head read.

He is the biggest blight on RL and i hope he gets run over by a big truck blasting it's horne, thats a big ten four big buddy.

Oh and i have watched every Storm game this year on Pay TV, they don't lie about their crowds, he just wants his boss to get the Storm to relocate to the CC, what an ****************,NRL need to tell him to pull his finger out.
With the exclusive radio deal brokered by the NRL, listeners have absolutely no alternative. Particularly as 702 has been covering many of the Saturday (day) and Sunday AFL games recently.

Not that i listen to weekday radio, but it's a double whammy with a choice between Ray Hadley or John Laws (or that Melbourne chick on the ABC).
 

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Oh well, i just recieved a form from AC nielson, the lady asked me all these qusetions, when 2ue came up i told her what i thought of Roy, happy to say i filled out the form and put ABC as outstanding and 2ue as don't notice :D
 
ParraEelsNRL said:
Oh well, i just recieved a form from AC nielson, the lady asked me all these qusetions, when 2ue came up i told her what i thought of Roy, happy to say i filled out the form and put ABC as outstanding and 2ue as don't notice :D
errr.... 2GB?
 
dr nick said:
errr.... 2GB?

Haha, well it did have heaps of stations, so i put all of them as never think of listening and ABC as must listen.

God, i'm only quarter the way through it and been at it over 2 hours.

I didn't realise how much c rap was on tv until i started reading through it all :confused:
 
dr nick said:
The bloke must have been listening to Ray Hadley. He reckons, infact he outright said that he was informed that "officials" were walking in and out of the turnstiles clocking over the numbers. Not only that, he also went on to say this was done at all Storm games. He suggested that people were probably employed for this specific task for games where the Storm were involved. :confused:

Hadley said he was "tipped off by inside sources".

Oh yeah, and Ray also used the term "quarter full" when describing the crowd was nearer 10,000

Ray Hadley isn't credible.

Twit
 

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