NRL Finals Farce

[cos789]

Internationally, RL has gained lost ground from the SL war and is now firmly re-establishing itself at that level.. the TriNations has been an outstanding success.

Obviously so insignificant that nobody notices the ups and downs of RL overseas.... it sounds like very few people know what the state of the nation is o/s for RL which means unfortunately its probably not a discussion we can sensibly have on here.

 

[cos789]

Atleast i live in the state you are referring too, i know whats going on in NSW, not some know all know nothing living across the other side of the country.

I lived in Sydney for 20 years played RL there and watched the NSWRL before the introduction of the Sydney Swans .I usually average one visit a year there .I prefer to look at some statistics rather rely on anedotal evidence as you seem to be doing .You probably will continue not to have any friends that follow Australian Football . That doesn't mean that Australian Football wont continue to grow in Sydney .

 

[Crooked Rain]

70k crowd to a game is huge numbers oh great doctor of spin .
414k peak ratings is a lot of people .
.

414k is a lot of people and that's about what Melbourne gets for an NRL grand final (without a melb team playing) on tele. There must be a lot of Melbournians who follow rugby league going by your logic.

 

[von richthofen]

haha, atleast someone knew what i was talking about.

You going to the Tri Nations match in Sydney?

I'll be buying my tix tomorrow, look forward to getting p issed as with the Kangaroo army.

Should be a good night.

well you should have plenty of room to stetch out and relax cos i think the games here will be real fizzers.

with so many top players missing or not interested this years series might be a disappointment, i dont think they should stage the series every year it's just over kill.

 

[copa]

well you should have plenty of room to stetch out and relax cos i think the games here will be real fizzers.

with so many top players missing or not interested this years series might be a disappointment, i dont think they should stage the series every year it's just over kill.

Many great players are still available.

Who is not interested??

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

I lived in Sydney for 20 years played RL there and watched the NSWRL before the introduction of the Sydney Swans .I usually average one visit a year there .I prefer to look at some statistics rather rely on anedotal evidence as you seem to be doing .You probably will continue not to have any friends that follow Australian Football . That doesn't mean that Australian Football wont continue to grow in Sydney .

When i was living in Goulburn, i knew a couple of people who watched AR, the only reason they watched it was because nothing else was on.

So saying i don't know anyone and never will know anyone who watches AR is just something you like to say to makes yourself feel big and mighty like you have something over me.

Get over yourself, most the population of NSW don't care and prob never care.

And where i have moved too now, you would think the AR doesn't exist, everyday the kids around the neigbourhood are playing either RL or cricket, not once have i seen them playing forcem backs.
The TV seems to be different here aswell, no where near the ammount of AFL adds, instead the adds are for St George Ill, are you going to tell me now that i'm lieing, or just making it up?

 

[cos789]

414k is a lot of people and that's about what Melbourne gets for an NRL grand final (without a melb team playing) on tele. There must be a lot of Melbournians who follow rugby league going by your logic.

Well you can't have it both ways .
Your're either believe in the ratings or not .
If you believe good ratings are not a true reflection of interest
then you have to question what RL ratings mean in general .
Personally I'm more atuned to crowd figures , as crowd figures show support, not just following or mere interest .

 

[littleduck]

You going to the Tri Nations match in Sydney?

No, I live in BrisVegas.

 

[littleduck]

70k crowd to a game is huge numbers oh great doctor of spin .

you were talking generally; now you're talking specific games... thats being inconsistent...

414k peak ratings is a lot of people .

you were talking generally; now you're talking specific games... thats being inconsistent...

A lot of people do follow and support Australian Football in Sydney and Brisbane . get over it and stop worrying about exactly what percentage of the population it is .

alot of people support Rugby League & Rugby Union in Perth and Melbourne too.

 

[littleduck]

Obviously so insignificant that nobody notices the ups and downs of RL overseas.... it sounds like very few people know what the state of the nation is o/s for RL which means unfortunately its probably not a discussion we can sensibly have on here.

your attempt to propel AFL on par with RL internationally in your mind has obviously worked... but its not reality.

 

[littleduck]

well you should have plenty of room to stetch out and relax cos i think the games here will be real fizzers.

with so many top players missing or not interested this years series might be a disappointment, i dont think they should stage the series every year it's just over kill.

if andrew johns declines his automatic selection then it will serious affect the crowd.. but who else is a chance of not playing?????

 

[littleduck]

Well you can't have it both ways .
Your're either believe in the ratings or not .
If you believe good ratings are not a true reflection of interest
then you have to question what RL ratings mean in general .
Personally I'm more atuned to crowd figures , as crowd figures show support, not just following or mere interest .

you prefer to rely solely on crowds bcoz you can rationalise it in your mind that AFL is twice as popular (32k vs 16k average).. but thats not reality.

i prefer to rely on a broader range of KPIs for popularity includings crowds, FTA ratings, PAYTV ratings, merchandise sales, junior participation, etc..

 

[cos789]

are you going to tell me now that i'm lieing, or just making it up?

I have never once suggested you are lying .
What I am suggesting is that you are the type of person who seeks out fellow RL supporters and doesn't actively seek out AR followers .
There maybe indeed little AR action were you live , but that doesn't change the fact that Australian Football has had great growth in Sydney in all facets of football infrastructure .
AS you know I live in Perth .You could come here and you wouldn't find any evidence of RL unless someone pointed you in the right direction .At the time of the Western Reds occassionally you would see the odd new Guernsey .You don't even see old guernserys now .You do see more and more Wallaby guernseys .

 

[littleduck]

I have never once suggested you are lying .
What I am suggesting is that you are the type of person who seeks out fellow RL supporters and doesn't actively seek out AR followers .
There maybe indeed little AR action were you live , but that doesn't change the fact that Australian Football has had great growth in Sydney in all facets of football infrastructure .

I agree with cossie *shock horror*
Parra probly associates mostly with locals and local culture of RL in the winter/cricket in the summer... to come across a real Aussie Rules fan you need to come across expat Victorians or Sth Aussies or West Aussies... I dont think coming across a newfound Swans supporter who no stuff all about the game yet they enjoy their onfield success is associatnig with a real Aussie Rules fan.

AS you know I live in Perth .You could come here and you wouldn't find any evidence of RL unless someone pointed you in the right direction .At the time of the Western Reds occassionally you would see the odd new Guernsey .You don't even see old guernserys now .You do see more and more Wallaby guernseys .

I live in Brisbane and travel all over the city on weekends (to play golf mostly) and you wouldn find any evidence of Aussie Rules clubs anywhere... all you see is rectangular football grounds with crossbars.

The only in your face AFL in Brisbane to be honest is media hype around the Lions.. and we all know media hype doesnt necessarily reflect reality on the ground.. it reflects the deep desire of effectively a foreign code to grow and become relevant.

 

[cos789]

The only in your face AFL in Brisbane to be honest is media hype around the Lions.

Exactly my point . In Brisbane we KNOW there has been overwhelming developement , by whatever criterium you care to use , ratings ,crowds , juniors , participation and merchandising etc .
The fact you can't see iany evidence reforces the fact the this type of observation is useless .

.. it reflects the deep desire of effectively a foreign code to grow and become relevant.

Are you talking about RL because THAT is the foreign code .
The indigenous code is going great guns .

 

[littleduck]

Exactly my point . In Brisbane we KNOW there has been overwhelming developement , by whatever criterium you care to use , ratings ,crowds , juniors , participation and merchandising etc .
The fact you can't see iany evidence reforces the fact the this type of observation is useless .

you're absolutely right.

Are you talking about RL because THAT is the foreign code .
The indigenous code is going great guns .

You know my argument... AFL is effectively a foreign code in Qld.. which is reflected in its status as "non-heartland", a "developing state", and an "expansion market".

RL has been the preferred brand of football for about 9 decades.

 

[cos789]

You know my argument... AFL is effectively a foreign code in Qld..

Firstly I must remind you again AFL is a league , Australian Fooball is the code . One day you'll get it right .

You KNOW my arguement overides yours , because RL is the code foreign to Australia , as it introduced from Northern England .
That Australian Football is indigenous to Australia and was played from the vey onset in QLD and has expanded from those roots .
The percentage representation has nothing to do with authenticity of placement .
Are you saying Toyota is not a foreign car just because there are more of them ?

 

[littleduck]

Firstly I must remind you again AFL is a league , Australian Fooball is the code . One day you'll get it right .

My terminology complies with the wishes of the AFL.

You KNOW my arguement overides yours , because RL is the code foreign to Australia , as it introduced from Northern England .
That Australian Football is indigenous to Australia and was played from the vey onset in QLD and has expanded from those roots .
The percentage representation has nothing to do with authenticity of placement .

we're both right.

Are you saying Toyota is not a foreign car just because there are more of them ?

no.

 

[cos789]

My terminology complies with the wishes of the AFL.

Now you're going back to your bad dumbass days .
You KNOW that you are promoting bad grammer and you are promoting the AFL branding image .You're doing them a favour .
I applaud the fact that this little RL troll is effectively helping Australian Football by promoting the AFL branding , but it is simply wrong grammatically .
Here I'll help you out . AFL AFL AFL AFL AFL .

we're both right.

What gives you THAT impression ?
Just LD saying it makes it so ?
Sorry to disappoint you lad , but Australian Football can in no way be thought as foreign so it must be that imported code that's foreign .

 

[littleduck]

Now you're going back to your bad dumbass days .
You KNOW that you are promoting bad grammer and you are promoting the AFL branding image .You're doing them a favour .
I applaud the fact that this little RL troll is effectively helping Australian Football by promoting the AFL branding , but it is simply wrong grammatically .
Here I'll help you out . AFL AFL AFL AFL AFL .

"little RL troll" is a good one!

I have no problem "promoting the AFL branding image". AFL is a relatively new sport on the horizon in my neck of the woods (Brisbane) and I'm quite to enjoy following the Lions.

I know "AFL" its technically wrong.. but your issue shouldnt be with me it should be with the "AFL branding" strategies in "expansion markets".. you really should accept that.

What gives you THAT impression ?
Just LD saying it makes it so ?
Sorry to disappoint you lad , but Australian Football can in no way be thought as foreign so it must be that imported code that's foreign .

My argument is based on sound logic and isnt that hard to understand..

 

[cos789]

I know "AFL" its technically wrong..

So why use it ? It's like saying "ATM machine"
It makes you sound dumb .Do you want to sound dumb .

AFL is a relatively new sport

Again , you sound dumb and ignorant , let it be your wishes .
AND your helping the AFL to boot .

My argument is based on sound logic and isnt that hard to understand..

Just because your argument has some logic doesn't mean it's right .

 

[Fred Nerk]

So why use it ? It's like saying "ATM machine"
It makes you sound dumb .Do you want to sound dumb .



Again , you sound dumb and ignorant , let it be your wishes .
AND your helping the AFL to boot .



Just because your argument has some logic doesn't mean it's right .

How can one sound dumb?

Dumb is the inability to talk.

 

[littleduck]

So why use it ? It's like saying "ATM machine"
It makes you sound dumb .Do you want to sound dumb .

go into any bank branch and ask them about the "teller" and I bet most of them start referring to them as "ATM machines".

Again , you sound dumb and ignorant , let it be your wishes .

When will you learn that your real gripe is with AFL marketing strategies and not me.

AND your helping the AFL to boot .

so? i like AFL.

Just because your argument has some logic doesn't mean it's right .

From a Qld perspective it's right!

 

[cos789]

go into any bank branch and ask them about the "teller" and I bet most of them start referring to them as "ATM machines".

So .? I'm disappointed then that they have the grammer of a prop forward .

From a Qld perspective it's right!

Absolute classic . That sums it all up doesn't it .
If it comes from QLD it MUST be right .


From a Qld perspective it's right!

Those bank tellers were they from QLD ?

From a Qld perspective it's right!


Those ratings , were they from QLD .?


From a Qld perspective it's right!


Those arguments you put up , were they from QLD ?


From a Qld perspective it's right!


"remote contest" ="close contest" ,did you get that from QLD too ?

From a Qld perspective it's right!

AFL is a sport , obviously got that from someone in QLD .

From a Qld perspective it's right!

 

[littleduck]

Absolute classic . That sums it all up doesn't it .
If it comes from QLD it MUST be right .

Of course its right when the argument is about the Qld perspective, not Australia.

From a Qld perspective it's right!

Those bank tellers were they from QLD ?

From a Qld perspective it's right!


Those ratings , were they from QLD .?


From a Qld perspective it's right!


Those arguments you put up , were they from QLD ?


From a Qld perspective it's right!


"remote contest" ="close contest" ,did you get that from QLD too ?

From a Qld perspective it's right!

AFL is a sport , obviously got that from someone in QLD .

From a Qld perspective it's right!

now youve spat the dummy. you need a stiff drink.