NRL player on drugs charge

[tugga]

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS forward Danny Wicks is accused of being close to the top of what police have described as a "significant drug-supply network". And the evidence includes an inference that he supplied drugs to other members of the Knights squad, a court heard yesterday.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/newcastle-knights/from-hero-to-zero-20091216-kxpa.html


Innocent until proven guilty, but if proven guilty, he should be suspended for life.

 

[B_GLassi]

Ye he's as good as gone. 5 months investigation, there's gotta be something in it.

 

[Aucklander]

Newcastle.

Say no more.

 

[honkagorn]

Sorry but gotta say it....I am so tired of a great great game being r*ped by meatheads and lo..lifes. Is it a fact that we are so down the socio..eco ladder that this is the type of player along with so many others others we are stuck with. Please NRL/ARL whoever... weed these potential disaster areas out the system. The clubs must have some idea who's cheese has slid of his cracker. Or are we really that dumb following the toughest fastest best spectator structured sport going.

 

[CooperCronk]

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS forward Danny Wicks is accused of being close to the top of what police have described as a "significant drug-supply network". And the evidence includes an inference that he supplied drugs to other members of the Knights squad, a court heard yesterday.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/newcastle-knights/from-hero-to-zero-20091216-kxpa.html


Innocent until proven guilty, but if proven guilty, he should be suspended for life.

Suspend him for life...if he's found guilty. We don't need these low-life idiots playing the game.
When reading this article, there was a link to another story where some player (who wants to remain anonymous) said drugs were rife in league during the off-season. This is where the nrl needs to step in to do a thorough investigation into this story and weed out these fools out of the game if its true.

Wasn't it Dale Lewis who revealed a similar story some years ago about drugs being rife in the afl...everyone laughed off that story and it wasn't until the Ben Cousins drug fury blew up in the afl's face, that the afl went even harder with the no-drugs policy in their game.

 

[Aucklander]

When reading this article, there was a link to another story where some player (who wants to remain anonymous) said drugs were rife in league during the off-season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/dark-knight-star-on-drug-charges-20091216-kxkd.html

Everyone does it it, except him.

No wonder he didn't want to be named.

 

[meltiger]

When reading this article, there was a link to another story where some player (who wants to remain anonymous) said drugs were rife in league during the off-season. This is where the nrl needs to step in to do a thorough investigation into this story and weed out these fools out of the game if its true.

Yep, because this group of 18-30yo's are so very non-reflective of the society at large they live in


When was the last time any of you sooks stepped foot into a nightclub?

 

[jonesy86]

What a disgrace, have a read of the article in today's Australian. The NRL need to step up and give details of their testing otherwise it could just be a myth, which given the levels this Newcastle player went to could well be the case.

 

[meltiger]

FMD Who cares who is using when off the field in the privacy of their own lives.

Why do people find it so immensely difficult to keep their snouts out of others lives? Are your lives that pathetically barren you can't just leave people be?

 

[Aucklander]

When was the last time any of you sooks stepped foot into a nightclub?

They wont let me in.

Something about being over 16.

 

[Bomber Bears]

There is a world of difference between occasionally using drugs, ala many people in that 18-30 age group, and being charged with supplying as wicks has. Wont have to worry too much about suspending him for life because he'll be in gaol for a while if found guilty.

Dont know why any afl person would troll regarding this, given the fact that drugs seem to be rife in certain AFL clubs also

 

[CooperCronk]

When was the last time any of you sooks stepped foot into a nightclub?

3 weeks ago MelT, but I don't want drug pedlars playing rugby league or in fact, any other footy code.

 

[meltiger]

3 weeks ago MelT, but I don't want drug pedlars playing rugby league or in fact, any other footy code.

Why. What impact does it have on you what a player does in his personal time off the field. Yopur post as also having a cry about players using,. Not just the Wicks issue.


& lets try and come up with something mroe constructive than a lets think of the children sook

There is a world of difference between occasionally using drugs, ala many people in that 18-30 age group, and being charged with supplying as wicks has.

Oh of course.


Was responding to the two twits (Cronk and the AFL tool) having a cry about players using.


Wicks is a completely different kettle of fish and if guilty will be dealt with appropriately.

 

[CooperCronk]

Why. What impact does it have on you what a player does in his personal time off the field. Yopur post as also having a cry about players using,. Not just the Wicks issue.


& lets try and come up with something mroe constructive than a lets think of the children sook

Oh of course.


Was responding to the two twits (Cronk and the AFL tool) having a cry about players using.


Wicks is a completely different kettle of fish and if guilty will be dealt with appropriately.

If u think casual use of drugs by anyone in society won't lead to devasting consequences in many cases YOU ARE THE TWIT.

 

[meltiger]

If u think casual use of drugs by anyone in society won't lead to devasting consequences in many cases YOU ARE THE TWIT.

I didn't say any such thing.

What I am asking you, is what f'ing business is it of YOURS what the players do in their own time.

 

[CooperCronk]

I didn't say any such thing.

What I am asking you, is what f'ing business is it of YOURS what the players do in their own time.

So do you approve of players taking drugs?

 

[meltiger]

You can't answer the question can you?


What impact does it have on you if a player takes a pill when out at a nightclub?

 

[Aucklander]

You can't answer the question can you?


What impact does it have on you if a player takes a pill when out at a nightclub?

The answer is none, obviously.

So long as they are then prepared to suffer the consequences which go with their drug taking when caught then there really isn't any issue.

Like Wicks (who is obviously in the extreme), they'll more than likely lose a part if their life to time in jail, face the distinct threat of losing a portion of their playing career, and put those who play with them under suspicion as well when they do get caught.

I just wonder of it's all worth it for a thrill which lasts such a short time?

At the end of the day, drugs are illegal and against the law. My advice to anyone is, to take them at your own peril, but if you do, then be prepared to pay what can be a massive price if you do.

 

[meltiger]

The answer is none, obviously.

Can always rely on you for a little bit of honesty rather than the hysterical response.

So long as they are then prepared to suffer the consequences which go with their drug taking when caught then there really isn't any issue.

When they are caught being the key

Like Wicks (who is obviously in the extreme), they'll more than likely lose a part if their life to time in jail, face the distinct threat of losing a portion of their playing career, and put those who play with them under suspicion as well when they do get caught.

Wicks is a different issue though. If guilty of what he is accused of - Criminal & deserves anything coming to him.

I wouldn't label recreational users, particularly part time recreational users as criminals though.

At the end of the day, drugs are illegal and against the law.

& how often do we really see people in court on posession charges where the amount held was for personal use? Very little, the police have far better things to do with their time and rightly so.

My advice to anyone is, to take them at your own peril, but if you do, then be prepared to pay what can be a massive price if you do.

The consequences of course being that because we test them and out them, we suspend them to keep the public masses from sooking.

Of course, if like with 99% of the rest of the workforce in this country, we didn't test them.......

 

[Aucklander]

When they are caught being the key

One bloke went his entire career without getting caught once.

I wouldn't label recreational users, particularly part time recreational users as criminals though.

No, but they are breaking the law.

& how often do we really see people in court on posession charges where the amount held was for personal use? Very little, the police have far better things to do with their time and rightly so.

Agreed.

The consequences of course being that because we test them and out them, we suspend them to keep the public masses from sooking.

Of course, if like with 99% of the rest of the workforce in this country, we didn't test them.......

I don't disagree with you, but part and parcel of being an elite sportsman is that, you undergo drug tests at certain times. If you get caught, then that's the price you pay.

There are no excuses now for any player who gets busted for taking drugs which are banned by their governing body.

 

[meltiger]

One bloke went his entire career without getting caught once.

& if he hadn't owned up, the media and in turn the poor little kiddies wouldn't have been aware that Andrew was doing it.

No, but they are breaking the law.

Jaywalking is against the law too. Throw players out of the game for that?

I don't disagree with you, but part and parcel of being an elite sportsman is that, you undergo drug tests at certain times. If you get caught, then that's the price you pay.

There are no excuses now for any player who gets busted for taking drugs which are banned by their governing body.

On this score I do agree, and any player who has a contract under the current environment who gets caught is an idiot for taking them, given they know the consequences.

My issue is with the fact we test in the first place for recreational drugs, and the gullible, dimwitted suburban masses who "don't want drug users in my game" as posted by someone earlier in the thread.

At the end of the day, the boys are there to play football. As long as they are doing that job adequately, (& in the cases of Joey and Ben Cousins & a certain Injunction Football Club player ... who could argue they weren't?) ... Who gives a shit what they do off field if it is only impacting themselves?


That's what I don't understand. Why we feel the need to intrude into these guys personal lives, when lots of the time, we are being hypocrites in comparison to how we treat the people around us... Living in werribee of all places, I absoloutely gaurentee you the earlier poster knows at least one person who smokes pot, and she would be flat out lying is she claims otherwise.

 

[Aucklander]

& if he hadn't owned up, the media and in turn the poor little kiddies wouldn't have been aware that Andrew was doing it.

Meh. The disturbing thing was, he never once tested positive in 10 years.

Jaywalking is against the law too. Throw players out of the game for that?

On this score I do agree, and any player who has a contract under the current environment who gets caught is an idiot for taking them, given they know the consequences.

My issue is with the fact we test in the first place for recreational drugs, and the gullible, dimwitted suburban masses who "don't want drug users in my game" as posted by someone earlier in the thread.

At the end of the day, the boys are there to play football. As long as they are doing that job adequately, (& in the cases of Joey and Ben Cousins & a certain Injunction Football Club player ... who could argue they weren't?) ... Who gives a shit what they do off field if it is only impacting themselves?


That's what I don't understand. Why we feel the need to intrude into these guys personal lives, when lots of the time, we are being hypocrites in comparison to how we treat the people around us... Living in werribee of all places, I absoloutely gaurentee you the earlier poster knows at least one person who smokes pot, and she would be flat out lying is she claims otherwise.

Well, taking recreational drugs is against virtually every single sporting codes laws, so there really is only one option.

And yes, I know many people who smoke pot, but no elite sportspeople.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Wicks has resigned from the Knights

 

[Northern_Swan]

& if he hadn't owned up, the media and in turn the poor little kiddies wouldn't have been aware that Andrew was doing it.

FWIW, everyone I know from Newcastle knew he was doing it. It was fairly common knowledge. The media did a very good job of keeping it hush hush. It's a bit of an unwritten rule in Newcastle - don't report anything negative about the Knights or Joey Johns.
A bit like that time Ben Kennedy punched 7 shades of shit out of him in front of the Beach Hotel. Made the back page of the Telegraph in Sydney, didn't rate a mention in the Newcastle Herald.

 

[CooperCronk]

Living in werribee[/U] of all places, I absoloutely gaurentee you the earlier poster knows at least one person who smokes pot, and she would be flat out lying is she claims otherwise.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel with the inference MelT
Want to bet that people in the so called richer areas would have more money to spend on drugs.

Anyway, I didn't want to answer your earlier question, because at times I just can't be bothered with you.

But I can tell you why I am so opposed to anyone taking drugs, even the occasional one at a nightclub for instance, its because I lost a very close male friend (who happened to live in Surrey Hills) due to drugs. He was initially only an occassional user, but it lead to the addiction stage and eventually committed suicide.