News NWM stays at Saints (Will Faulkner wrong about being crows bound)

[shewho]

First- there is no psd threat. Even a $3M first year front loaded contract can be matched by a club getting a few stars to push back their 2026 salary into 2027.

Second- we will get bent over. SK must save face. They can’t attract players like TDK (who they don’t really need) while losing NWM. Star power rules. Let alone facing their fan base with Whitlock + F1 for NWM.

Third- why do they want Whitlock when they will have King, Marshall and , maybe, TDK.

Four- sugarcoat it all you like- Whitlock is a late second rounder who hasn’t been close to a debut.

Five- having traded this year’s first I don’t think we can trade our second and who knows if the afl will let us trade another future first.

I think when everyone wipes the cum off their screens they will see this deal has a long long way to go.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Losing Whitlock is the price you pay for doing such bad deals on Houston, Esava and Soldo. If we'd managed our resources better we would be able to have both.

It stings a bit but this was always gonna sting a bit to get done. Make it happen.

 

[Anyonebutken]

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Do people really want another year of Lord and Finlayson? If Whitlock goes, Finlayson will stay as depth and Lord still is contracted for next year and those two are not the answer for obvious reasons.

Before people say, there’s still Cochrane and Pilot, there’s no guarantee they will be playing as tall forwards at AFL level and we’ll still be crying out for a key forward as those two will develop.

It’s insane how all of a sudden people are happy to pay the value of 3 x 1st rounders essentially for NWM.

Guess that must mean people here rate NWM higher than JHF or Butters if people here want to pay up that much for him.

By that logic, Nick Daicos, Sam Darcy or Harley Reid must be worth 5 x 1st rounders minimum since they are a “generational talent”.

Seriously, what was the whole point of entering last years draft if Port are just gonna trade away them next season? What was the whole point of allowing Houston to leave?

Yep, let’s just trade away Berry, Whitlock etc. whom Port went to great lengths to acquire the picks to get them.

The whole entire list management should just quit. It’s already bad enough that shitty Houston deal went through but now the two kids Port went a lot to acquire those picks would make the whole Houston situation even more shitty.

I see your point but NWM will probably be our best player at Port for the next decade and one of the elite in the comp moving foward

 

[JimmyBC]

That ABAB moron on the main board has made this situation a win-win whether he stays at St. Kilda or comes to Port.

 

[DT_35]

Also is it a bit weird that it took St Kilda so long to come out in support of him with regards to getting racist messages on insta...

And how long was that champ? Both clubs did it on the same day….

 

[JimmyBC]

And how long was that champ? Both clubs did it on the same day….

Yea that was a dopey comment.

 

[TazD]

Honestly can't believe this homer hysteria over Whitlock.

 

[Chewy316]

Honestly can't believe this homer hysteria over Whitlock.

It's only because he's a young KPF prospect who was highly rated in a super draft class, combined with the fact Port's current KPFs are flakey outside of Georgiades.

 

[BrutThough]

Also is it a bit weird that it took St Kilda so long to come out in support of him with regards to getting racist messages on insta...

They happened Sunday evening. The club addressed the media about them Monday.

How much quicker could we have been? Should we have a press conference Sunday at midnight?

 

[SureBuddy]

It’s not like our current key forwards are 30+ and losing Whitlock is a disaster.
Mitch is 23, Luko is 24 and Marshall is 26. Whitlock would not have been getting a game anytime soon unless there were injuries. Then on top of that, we have Dougie coming next year and Pilot the year after.
You then have Lord and Finlayson as SANFL depth. Yea they aren’t great, but it’s just for depth purposes.
We can add NWM and not weaken our best 23 in the slightest, that is a massive massive win and great list management.

As I’ve said before, NWM will come in and instantly be our 2nd best player behind Butters. For anyone saying different, you clearly have not actually watched him play enough.

He is the best attacking HBF in the comp, ahead of the likes of Whitfield, Ash, Josh Daicos

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Josh Daicos

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

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D/M

Career

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Last 5

D

15.6

4star

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8.3

3star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

230.5

4star

D

16.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.5

4star

MG

230.5

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

, Zorko, Rozee etc. and on top of that, he is only 22. He has also had stints running through the midfield where he has also dominated.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It's only because he's a young KPF prospect who was highly rated in a super draft class, combined with the fact Port's current KPFs are flakey outside of Georgiades.

Plus the fact we would be once again prioritising an outside player over a proper structure.

With the stand rule etc we have seen the re-emergence of the importance of key talls. Thilthorpe, Darcy, Morris, Larkey, Cayman etc. are all looking good.

It's a risk to rely on Luko, Marshall, Cochrane and Pilot all for different reasons.

Not saying we shouldn't do it but it does have the potential to blow up.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Honestly can't believe this homer hysteria over Whitlock.

I can, because it's Bigfooty, but still. I'd trade ten Whitlocks for NWM. He's magic beans at this stage.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

A future first and Whitlock for Nasiah and I'm dancing in the streets.

 

[Visenfest]

Future first + Whitlock for NAS + Keeler. Use that as a starting point in negotiations and work from there.

 

[SureBuddy]

Future first + Whitlock for NAS + Keeler. Use that as a starting point in negotiations and work from there.

That wouldn’t even come close lol.
It will be Whitlock + future first + something else for NAS. Keeler wont be involved. Nor do we need him.

 

[Chewy316]

Plus the fact we would be once again prioritising an outside player over a proper structure.

With the stand rule etc we have seen the re-emergence of the importance of key talls. Thilthorpe, Darcy, Morris, Larkey, Cayman etc. are all looking good.

It's a risk to rely on Luko, Marshall, Cochrane and Pilot all for different reasons.

Not saying we shouldn't do it but it does have the potential to blow up.

I agree. A KPF takes considerable investment both in terms of the general capital they cost in the draft, combined with the amount of time it takes for them to become a solid contributer at AFL level.

It makes me uneasy. In saying that, I am fine with a trade including Whitlock on the proviso he's considered to be valued as a 1st round pick. If St Kilda want him thrown in as a steak knife and expect multiple high picks on top of Whitlock, that is being unreasonable.

 

[It Just Is]

That wouldn’t even come close lol.
It will be Whitlock + future first + something else for NAS. Keeler wont be involved. Nor do we need him.

A forward-ruck is one of our biggest needs. We can’t go into next season planning for Sweet to play 80% forward.

Doesn’t matter how many A-graders we trade for this offseason we need to find someone vaguely capable of holding down that role.

 

[Chrizzt]

NWM and Keeler who was pick 44 and out of contract for Berry, Whitlock who are both technically 1st round picks or rated as such PLUS Whitlock contract until 2026 and Berry 2027 so contracted and a future 1st 2026 plus this year's pick 44 for shits and giggles. Done. That's technically 3 1st round picks and change for Nas and. 3rd round out of contract player.

Bruz. The position a player was taken in the draft ceases to matter the minute after they are selected.

Grainger-Barras, Chayce Jones, Mitch Thorp, Andrew Moore, etc etc are all technically first round picks, want to chuck them in the mix too?

 

[Chewy316]

Bruz. The position a player was taken in the draft ceases to matter the minute after they are selected.

Grainger-Barras, Chayce Jones, Mitch Thorp, Andrew Moore, etc etc are all technically first round picks, want to chuck them in the mix too?

None of those players I don't believe were given up on by their first club after just one season though.

 

[Visenfest]

That wouldn’t even come close lol.
It will be Whitlock + future first + something else for NAS. Keeler wont be involved. Nor do we need him.

That’s why I said starting point. Start high in negotiations and work from there.

 

[Macca19]

How on earth are people rating a bloke picked at pick 33 as a first rounder?

 

[Chrizzt]

None of those players I don't believe were given up on by their first club after just one season though.

Doesn’t matter - my point is that:
“A player picked in the first round” does not equal “first round pick”

How on earth are people rating a bloke picked at pick 33 as a first rounder?

I think some people are saying because he was widely rated as a first round pre-draft

 

[Macca19]

Doesn’t matter - my point is that:
“A player picked in the first round” does not equal “first round pick”


I think some people are saying because he was widely rated as a first round pre-draft

Yeah, its a furphy. He went pick 33. Pre draft ranking doesnt matter. He went where he went.

 

[Chrizzt]

Yeah, its a furphy. He went pick 33. Pre draft ranking doesnt matter. He went where he went.

I don’t disagree

 

[Schulzenfest]

Future first + Whitlock for NAS + Keeler. Use that as a starting point in negotiations and work from there.

Keeler is easily worth more than Whitlock. So you're offering one future first for NWM here with us getting decent change on top. This is the sort of offer that makes them switch their phone off and send him to the draft.