News NWM stays at Saints (Will Faulkner wrong about being crows bound)

[PortAdelFC1997]

See how one’s playing AFL footy and the other isn’t and hasn’t made his debut yet?

Taking the piss, lol.

Keeler's stock has risen; that’s just a fact and has shown glimpses of talent. Yeah, he’s OOC, but he’ll still cost more on top of bringing Nas to the footy club, especially if a deal looks like: Whitlock, a future 1st and a current 2nd for NWM straight up.

See how one has three years in the system and only debuted this year compared to someone who has less than one year in the system and is already showing "glimpses of talent".

 

[stavro#4]

See how one has three years in the system and only debuted this year compared to someone who has less than one year in the system and is already showing "glimpses of talent".

With all due respect - Keeler was doing the exact same thing the last few years.

Any Port fan trying to downplay his talent is being incredibly biased. Keeler has been one us saints fans have been very excited about since the day he was drafted and he has shown a fair bit play Forward/Ruck/CHB in the 2s before finally getting a crack this year.

He still has plenty of development to go, but he has shown a fair bit throughout games at AFL level this year.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Keeler is easily worth more than Whitlock. So you're offering one future first for NWM here with us getting decent change on top. This is the sort of offer that makes them switch their phone off and send him to the draft.

If SOS agreed to that deal, the supporters would burn down Moorabbin.

 

[bomberclifford]

If SOS agreed to that deal, the supporters would burn down Moorabbin.

Probably the best outcome we could hope for.

 

[Cosmicwinduptoy24]

People here are already writing him off and want to use him as trade bait. Berry obviously has to improve but sheesh, talk about having lofty expectation for a kid in his first season.

You can disregard everything said by the people already writing him off. None of their opinions are worth listening to, as they clearly know nothing about football.

 

[Scodges]

From a complete outsider's view, I think Kenny has run his race and you should get someone new.

Are you a recent arrival refugee ?

 

[Revan11]

Yeah, its a furphy. He went pick 33. Pre draft ranking doesnt matter. He went where he went.

Yes but that was where he was rated in last years draft. Drafts differ in strength and depth, and clubs may rate players higher than a current draft crop. Norf rated Matt Whitlock at pick 12 last year (would've picked him with the GC pick if we hadn't got it), and we apparently wouldve pick Jack Whitlock with our first if Berry wasn't available.

If Saints rate Jack better than a tall they would pick in this years first round, then he's absolutely got the value of a first this year in their eyes.

 

[Revan11]

In saying that the saints picked James Barrat the pick before Whitlock.....

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

Yes but that was where he was rated in last years draft. Drafts differ in strength and depth, and clubs may rate players higher than a current draft crop. Norf rated Matt Whitlock at pick 12 last year (would've picked him with the GC pick if we hadn't got it), and we apparently wouldve pick Jack Whitlock with our first if Berry wasn't available.

If Saints rate Jack better than a tall they would pick in this years first round, then he's absolutely got the value of a first this year in their eyes.

I'm pretty sure Port always had Berry in mind to take with their first pick considering the lack of quality small forwards. Whitlock was the surprise packet with how he slid and Port took him first chance they got.

 

[davesnothere]

Champions data lists NWM as the 4th highest rated player in the league in 2025.

Likely All Australian this season and wins our BnF.

Our struggles this year are due to personnel missing and having the 3rd youngest list in the comp.

Nas has excelled this season in spite of that.

When do they hold the BnF ?

Immediately after the final round?

 

[SureBuddy]

Champions data lists NWM as the 4th highest rated player in the league in 2025.

Likely All Australian this season and wins our BnF.

Our struggles this year are due to personnel missing and having the 3rd youngest list in the comp.

Nas has excelled this season in spite of that.

Winning the Saints BnF isn’t really much to write home about lol.

 

[VineValerian]

My take on likelihood of who he signs with:
Saints 45%
Port 40%
Crows 15%.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Also we must know Dougie is coming, followed by Pilot the year after. With MG, Luko and Marshall, losing Whitlock is not a disaster at all. Actually smart list management.

Marshall? Really?

 

[240volt]

My take on likelihood of who he signs with:
Saints 45%
Port 40%
Crows 15%.

I’d go more
Saints 80%
Port 15%
Crows 5%

 

[JUSTWORK]

My take on likelihood of who he signs with:
Saints 45%
Port 40%
Crows 15%.

The longer it goes on without him signing the number St Kilda has to be getting smaller...

 

[SureBuddy]

Marshall? Really?

Yes, Marshall. The guy who kicked 45 goals in 2022 and 36 in 2023. He was our clear number one forward a couple of years ago. Head knocks and now the Achilles has really set him back. I’m still very hopeful that a full year out of the game will do him the world of good. Physically he looks better than ever right now.

 

[philthy05]

How on earth are people rating a bloke picked at pick 33 as a first rounder?

Look, I don’t know the context of everyone you’re referring to but where should he be rated?

Young kpf , has already put on enough size and shown enough in his first year to wipe doubts that he could be an immediate bust.

Anyone who has watched him, and watched other drafts would have to admit he wouldn’t have gone pick 33 in any other draft other than arguably the deepest kpf draft we’ve ever seen.

Where does he go in this draft Macca? Is there a kpf you would have on the list before him?

He isn’t a first rounder as in he wasn’t drafted as one. Neither was Ollie Dempsey.


I have no idea how port or saints rate him.

What I do know is that kpfs who have some promise to make it are rare as hens teeth, and this is likely our last chance at one for a while thanks to trading out future draft picks

We just paid a future first for one who the coach had all but marched out the door in luko.



I can’t say what they club will do, I’ve said that time and again regarding trading…

… what I do know, and not by clairvoyance or summation , by sheer utter fact of watching them do it time and time again, is that on the other end if a club is taking a player from us they simply offer us what they have to offer and it’s up to us to take it.

Pies did not have the trade assets for Houston. A contracted player. The deal was done anyway. We took what they had.

We can muster up a deal with draft picks that is ‘all we can offer’ and our target is actually out of contract.

But anyway I don’t expect we will cause what is good for the goose is not in fact good for the gander if said gander is wearing a ports jumper.

Keeler is easily worth more than Whitlock. So you're offering one future first for NWM here with us getting decent change on top. This is the sort of offer that makes them switch their phone off and send him to the draft.

Is lord worth more than Josh smillie cause lord has played afl and Josh hasn’t? That’s your grounds for rating keeler higher from your arguments I’ve seen.

Keeler is averaging 0.1 more goals a game than a player many port fans want to see thrown in the bin.

I actually think Keeler might have more upside but we don’t really know yet. Also it’s not talent holding Keeler back. The reason Adelaide didn’t bother taking him for free and port overlooked him is likely still a factor for all we know. Or maybe not.

I’m not saying I agree with the trade you’re replying to, I’m just disagreeing with your point about why

 

[Portmagpies36]

With all due respect - Keeler was doing the exact same thing the last few years.

Any Port fan trying to downplay his talent is being incredibly biased. Keeler has been one us saints fans have been very excited about since the day he was drafted and he has shown a fair bit play Forward/Ruck/CHB in the 2s before finally getting a crack this year.

He still has plenty of development to go, but he has shown a fair bit throughout games at AFL level this year.

On a completely different topic, as a Saints fan how do you rate Mattias Phillipou? (His father also played at Port Adelaide)

 

[Schulzenfest]

With all due respect - Keeler was doing the exact same thing the last few years.

Any Port fan trying to downplay his talent is being incredibly biased. Keeler has been one us saints fans have been very excited about since the day he was drafted and he has shown a fair bit play Forward/Ruck/CHB in the 2s before finally getting a crack this year.

He still has plenty of development to go, but he has shown a fair bit throughout games at AFL level this year.

Agreed. I don't think we're getting Keeler unless we're throwing an extra first rounder in. He looks very impressive for his age.

 

[Joffaboy]

On a completely different topic, as a Saints fan how do you rate Mattias Phillipou? (His father also played at Port Adelaide)

Hard to tell. Was looking extra impressive last season, has been injured most of this season. But has the potential ( still potential mind you) to be our Cripps or Bont ( please take that the way it is meant).
Many Saints also interested by Jevon this draft.

 

[JimmyBC]

You've got no basis to rate Whitlock higher than blokes that have already been playing AFL, he's a promising raw KPF taken at pick 33 who hasn't demanded a game yet at all.

I get the tall kids excite but jeezus you'd all be singing from the same hymn book the saints fans are if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

[Port 2004]

I’d go more
Saints 80%
Port 15%
Crows 5%

I think you maypleasantly surprised

Now the problem being Butters is an under contract Port Adelaide player.

NWM is a former St Kilda player uncontacted and looking to move home.

St Kilda supporters are behaving like the divorced ex thinking they have some say in your life.

We are trying to get you a somewhat reasonable deal to shut you up.

I was told today by an ex AFL and SANFL player and coach that The St Kilda FC board has signed off on NWM leaving to come to Port. Now I am not sure how this stuff works. However this guy has significant contacts in the football industry so you would think his intel is reasonable reliable. I do realise that a trade has to be done. My only query is would a board sign off on such a thing prior to a trade request being announced?

 

[Portwrld]

I think you maypleasantly surprised

I was told today by an ex AFL and SANFL player and coach that The St Kilda FC board has signed off on NWM leaving to come to Port. Now I am not sure how this stuff works. However this guy has significant contacts in the football industry so you would think his intel is reasonable reliable. I do realise that a trade has to be done. My only query is would a board sign off on such a thing prior to a trade request being announced?

That’s a question that you’ve gotta ask Chewy316

 

[Macca19]

Look, I don’t know the context of everyone you’re referring to but where should he be rated?

Young kpf , has already put on enough size and shown enough in his first year to wipe doubts that he could be an immediate bust.

Anyone who has watched him, and watched other drafts would have to admit he wouldn’t have gone pick 33 in any other draft other than arguably the deepest kpf draft we’ve ever seen.

Where does he go in this draft Macca? Is there a kpf you would have on the list before him?

He isn’t a first rounder as in he wasn’t drafted as one. Neither was Ollie Dempsey.


I have no idea how port or saints rate him.

What I do know is that kpfs who have some promise to make it are rare as hens teeth, and this is likely our last chance at one for a while thanks to trading out future draft picks

We just paid a future first for one who the coach had all but marched out the door in luko.



I can’t say what they club will do, I’ve said that time and again regarding trading…

… what I do know, and not by clairvoyance or summation , by sheer utter fact of watching them do it time and time again, is that on the other end if a club is taking a player from us they simply offer us what they have to offer and it’s up to us to take it.

Pies did not have the trade assets for Houston. A contracted player. The deal was done anyway. We took what they had.

We can muster up a deal with draft picks that is ‘all we can offer’ and our target is actually out of contract.

But anyway I don’t expect we will cause what is good for the goose is not in fact good for the gander if said gander is wearing a ports jumper.





Is lord worth more than Josh smillie cause lord has played afl and Josh hasn’t? That’s your grounds for rating keeler higher from your arguments I’ve seen.

Keeler is averaging 0.1 more goals a game than a player many port fans want to see thrown in the bin.

I actually think Keeler might have more upside but we don’t really know yet. Also it’s not talent holding Keeler back. The reason Adelaide didn’t bother taking him for free and port overlooked him is likely still a factor for all we know. Or maybe not.

I’m not saying I agree with the trade you’re replying to, I’m just disagreeing with your point about why

My comment was in reply to people stating Whitlock is essentially/technically/should be considered a first round pick. He’s not. He went at pick 33, which is technically a late second round pick in an 18 team league. Where he was projected to go in some pre draft rankings is a moot point as we’ve had the draft and we saw where he went. Pick 33.

Now if St Kilda view him as 1st round equivalent thats good for us. I hope they do. FF plus Whitlock is a trade i would do 100% of the time for NWM and wouldnt think twice.

He was the 7th KPF in my rankings (39th) so where we picked him was about right, I wasnt sold on him and was sweating we’d take him at the Berry pick. Where would he go this year? If he was in this draft and didnt just have 12 months development then i’d have him behind Ludowyke, Murray and Schubert as KPFs in this draft. Marsh as well if he counts. Might have him in the 20-25 region as opposed to 39. Thats just my opinion and ive been wrong many times before. But, tall ‘sliders’ dont have a great success rate.

With Keeler, fwiw, his first seasons VFL stats are near identical to Whitlocks SANFL stats. Would he have been worth a first rounder in a trade at the end of his first season in the system?

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Would he announce his intentions during the season as we are and the Saints are both finished