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I reckon he plays the homosexual game with his best buddy so he can shack up and propose a threesome only to pull the digi out and blackmail them.

Watch out spidey..just watch out. ;)
 
Not quite sure what the problem is here.

Is there any real difference between this level of socialising and perhaps a lesser level of just regular lunches and Friday night drinks and a few dinners?

By difference I mean the concern that familarity may stop stop the boss shooting folk when required?

I've read many of your work related threads, Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk, and I wonder if you're on the cusp of realising that most organisations/teams are nasty back stabbing hierachies that are better avoided? (Says he who is a feral freelance guy)
 
If management is professional, and if they have any respect for their work force, they would NEVER engage in the type of conduct you are describing Spidey.

To be effective, management must remain seperate from the work force, if they are all buddy-buddy, how on earth is discipline maintained? or censures apportioned.

Spidey, I'd suggest you get out of that situation, find something better, something espousing good work ethics and procedures
 
Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
You people all have dirty minds apart from bunsen burners post (for once) professionalism is exactly what i am talking about not sex...and the issue of favoratism. How will he go about sacking these people if the need arises? I know all offices go out for drinks socialising every week and that is very much normal. That is not what i am questioning it is the constant 'hanging out' with the workers under him that i am thinking is fairly odd. Going overto their houses getting one of the girls to cut his boyfriends hair, going to gay bars with the lezzos we have there etc etc.

Yes the boss is homosexual and his boyfriend doesn't work with us he is in the Police force.
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Spidey, I have worked with plenty of people who during work hours act professionally. But after hours they let their hair down like everyone else and socialise. It has never affected their professionalism at work.
 

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I've seen that too, but I've always seen many problems arise from it included ruined careers. I have no probs with co-workers letting thei hair down with each other, but when bosses do it in front of their subordinates in is very risky. It's all up to the manager - they should know how the act when they are drunk and take appropriate action. If they can handle their drink, then that is fine.

Case 1.

A friend of mine is a district manager for a national retail chain. Every year they all fly to a location and have meetings for a week - and a few nights on the town. The national retail manager has a reputation for being a bit of a tool when he is drunk. SO everyone is drunk and someone mentions to him that he isn't good at talking to people tactfully. This guy snapped and punched his co-worker in the face.

result: Co-worker gets a full year salary as a pay out and goes and finds another job. The national retail manager luckily held onto his, but how much respect would have he lost?

This guy should know that he gets a bit snappy when drunk and shouldn't drink on work functions.


Case 2.

Same week, different night. My friend is with another district manager at a club (all the other colleagues are present too). She is married, but everytime she gets drunk she turns into a ****. So she is watching this guy who looks like Billy Ray Cyrus on the dancefloor and says to my friend, "I have to have him, he looks like a rockstar". My friend already knowing what she was like tried to talk her out of it by telling her she was happily married etc. Nup, didn't work. Co-worker is snogging BillyRay on the middle of the dance floor whilst all her colleagues are watching. My friend had to plead with the bouncers not to kick her out.

Result: She still works for this company, but how many people think the same of her after seeing this?

She knows she does this all the time, but doesn't have the sense not to drink at work functions.
 
Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
he has a boyfriend
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Tell your boss that you are a workmate of his and a friend. Talk it over with your boss and his boyfirend telling them that you don't want to go on a dirty weekend with them.
 
Originally posted by Asgardian
If management is professional, and if they have any respect for their work force, they would NEVER engage in the type of conduct you are describing Spidey.

To be effective, management must remain seperate from the work force, if they are all buddy-buddy, how on earth is discipline maintained? or censures apportioned.

Spidey, I'd suggest you get out of that situation, find something better, something espousing good work ethics and procedures
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Is it cold up there in that tower??

One just has to seperate the business from the personal.
 
Suzi I think spidey is saying there are no lewd moves made towards her, rather that she's just amazed about his comfort level with getting on the turps and being a bit of a party yobbo amongst his work subordinates, which affects the professionality of the working relationship - seeing him get blotto and crash at worker's places ... not attempt anything sexual with them.

spidey, yes its not all that uncommon.
 
Originally posted by Asgardian
If management is professional, and if they have any respect for their work force, they would NEVER engage in the type of conduct you are describing Spidey.

To be effective, management must remain seperate from the work force, if they are all buddy-buddy, how on earth is discipline maintained? or censures apportioned.

Spidey, I'd suggest you get out of that situation, find something better, something espousing good work ethics and procedures
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Thats pretty much the answer i was thinking of thanks As.

And as far as the whole professionalism thing goes having to sit next to him and hear his *** tails and bitchy outside phone conversations constantly is just not my idea of professionalism but hell what do i know i have only been working a year!
 
Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
Thats pretty much the answer i was thinking of thanks As.

And as far as the whole professionalism thing goes having to sit next to him and hear his *** tails and bitchy outside phone conversations constantly is just not my idea of professionalism but hell what do i know i have only been working a year!
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So its really the homosexual thing that worries you?
 

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Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
Thats pretty much the answer i was thinking of thanks As.

And as far as the whole professionalism thing goes having to sit next to him and hear his *** tails and bitchy outside phone conversations constantly is just not my idea of professionalism but hell what do i know i have only been working a year!
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Perhaps he is unprofessional, but surely being able to have a beer or two (or a few too many) with co-workes, those that work for you doesn't change how professional a worker/boss you are.
 
Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
Thats pretty much the answer i was thinking of thanks As.

And as far as the whole professionalism thing goes having to sit next to him and hear his *** tails and bitchy outside phone conversations constantly is just not my idea of professionalism but hell what do i know i have only been working a year!
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You just answered your own question. If you have never seen, bitchiness, backstabbing, power games, temper tantrums thrown by so called professionals or overheard conversations between partners then you haven't been in the 'business world' long enough. Stick around girl, your bubble is about to be burst.

If you really want to see power games and tantrums in a work place come work with pollies for a while, that will really rock your world.
Now what was that you were saying about a cushioned world?
 
Originally posted by Eago77
Perhaps he is unprofessional, but surely being able to have a beer or two (or a few too many) with co-workes, those that work for you doesn't change how professional a worker/boss you are.
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Definately not. The general manager also drinks with us but in my eyes he is the true professional as he is not staying over at our houses and tripping together!
 
Originally posted by Jars458
I met my wife at work.
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I met someones wife at work too!!

I often socialise with my staff it picks up team morale and if the staff know you better they tend do work a little harder as there is a little more of a pernal aspect to it. Things don't always go smoothly but we get over it and remain friends.
 
Unfortunately its an issue... it'd be nice to say we could all be friends with our bosses but in some cases we cant. My old boss and i were friends but i was his PA, his only PA, so it was different, and i dont think that favoritism came into it in that instance. However since moving to a different role, where there are ten other people under my new boss with the same role, you cant be friends with your boss.

People say to separate personal and professional life, if you're working for someone that you're sleeping with or whatever, but i think thats easier in theory than practice.

Offices are bitchy, gossipy, places and people will do anything and say anything about peoples personal lives to get ahead. Its just not worth it in the end. Its good to be sociable but i think it can get too much.
 

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well the latest is the boss has had a little tanty with this girl hes been so friendly with when a work situation came up and she demanded he pay her for working saturdays so to cut a long story short guess whos been offered to go along as his "date" in the grand final corporate box :cool:

...Suzi you may have been onto something there ;)
 
Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
well the latest is the boss has had a little tanty with this girl hes been so friendly with when a work situation came up and she demanded he pay her for working saturdays so to cut a long story short guess whos been offered to go along as his "date" in the grand final corporate box :cool:

...Suzi you may have been onto something there ;)
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Two questions, Spidey.
Firstly, why isn't he taking his boyfriend as his date?
Secondly, I thought you were dead against the boss fraternizing with his staff. So if you accept his offer won't you be going against your 'principles'?:confused:
 
Originally posted by Bee
Two questions, Spidey.
Firstly, why isn't he taking his boyfriend as his date?
Secondly, I thought you were dead against the boss fraternizing with his staff. So if you accept his offer won't you be going against your 'principles'?:confused:
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Dunno all he said was "I wish i was single, my boyfriend doesn't want to go, you can come along as my date and get drunk like an adult for once"

As for principles Bee you should know there are no principles
during grand final week ;) nah there is a lunch with the clients we are outsourcing for so if i do decide to go then it would be work related i just have to draw the line at the "after match footyslutting to find out which players are gay"
 

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