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Is this inclusion of Cameron White in the One Day team a good or bad thing?

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Originally posted by CatManDo
I've got two reasons to support MacGill too:

He had to bowl on roads for most of this series.


Roads?? What a load of crap. MacGill looked as if he was getting just as much bounce and turn as he did in other series'. Just look at Kumble.

MacGill was out of his depth, just admit it - plus he bowls too many ****e deliveries.

cr.
 
Originally posted by marcuz
He has pretty much admitted that there is a couple of deliveries that he just can't bowl anymore due to the injuries on his shoulder. The flipper bieng one of them.

He may bowl as well but his bag of tricks has been reduced. And it is a shame as the flipper was lethel.

Warne blindfolded would be bette that MacGill.

cr.
 
Must agree with Crooked Rain.

Those pitches weren't roads. Granted, they favoured the batsmen, but MacGill turned them from day one, and Kumble was quite successful.

A good spin bowler could succeed on those pitches.
 

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Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Must agree with Crooked Rain.

Those pitches weren't roads. Granted, they favoured the batsmen, but MacGill turned them from day one, and Kumble was quite successful.

A good spin bowler could succeed on those pitches.

Two points ...

Kumble is much different bowler to Warne and MacGill. More of a medium pace spinner, so for starters it is hard to compare.

Secondly Kumble got the advantage of being able to bowl to the Australians, who aren't the best players of spin, whereas MacGill had to bowl to the Indians who are the best players of spin.

Warnes figures have proved before that very few spinners succeed against India.
 
Cam White seems likely to be picked in the touring squad of India now. Although the selectors are still keen to bring over a finger spinner as well. We could have a touring squad of 16.

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Zeke said:
Xavier Doherty > Nathan Hauritz
You reckon, two different bowlers (left and right) but both give it a bit of air. Who else would be inline for a call up, not too many good finger spinners going around
 
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Given that Ganguly is suggesting we send McGill has probably cooked his goose. It's obvious that they are looking around for someone else who can turn the ball.
 
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Cooldude said:
Don't know about this, Whitey might do a Warnie and get caned by the Indians on his debut

What and turn out to be the greatest legspinner ever?
 
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Casson is a better bowler than White.
 
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corporal said:
What and turn out to be the greatest legspinner ever?

Purely talking about debuts here :)

Still have my doubts about his bowling. He's awkward to face at first, but when you get used to his unusualness, then he's way easier to handle. He doesn't have the variation of Kumble as of yet, coz he needs it.

He has a flipper and a wrong'un, but don't have total control over those balls yet. You gotta fear that the Indians will belt the crap outta him, as if Brett Lee ain't expensive enough
 

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Cooldude said:
Purely talking about debuts here :)

Still have my doubts about his bowling. He's awkward to face at first, but when you get used to his unusualness, then he's way easier to handle. He doesn't have the variation of Kumble as of yet, coz he needs it.

He has a flipper and a wrong'un, but don't have total control over those balls yet. You gotta fear that the Indians will belt the crap outta him, as if Brett Lee ain't expensive enough

The Indians are probably going to belt the hell out of any young spinner. The thing that separates White from the rest is his temperement and his leadership qualities which probaby better equips him for a Indian pasting.
 
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corporal said:
The Indians are probably going to belt the hell out of any young spinner. The thing that separates White from the rest is his temperement and his leadership qualities which probaby better equips him for a Indian pasting.

So basicly you're saying we're sending out the best young spinner who's the most equipped on copping an absolute royal-smacking from the Indians :cool:
 
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year of the roo said:
If not White, then who?

Still think they shouldn't have shafted Macgill.

Then again, hopefully Whitey does okay.

Hauritz or some other no-name finger spinner might be in with a chance, but with the pitches in India, you gotta bowl quicker through the air and spin it to get more bounce as a finger spinner to be successful, especially against those Indian batsmen.
 
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White would be pretty lucky IMO but at the same time from a pure cricketing horses for courses point of view he is probably a good option.Probably the only spinner we have whos style is well suited to Indian conditions and he gives a nice variation to Warnes well flighted deliveries.Whites ability to trap players LBW with his quick flat leggies could prove a handful over there.Macgill unfortunately just gives up to many runs.
 

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VoR said:
Casson is a better bowler than White.
correct.

But not quite yet.

Casson is a very raw spinner, and is trying to master the hardest art of bowling. But i think he's gonna be our main spinner in the future. And a darn good one at that, but hopefully he doesn't get put down too much because he can't much Warne.

And also correct that Xavier Doherty has more potential than Nathan Hauritz, but NH has a few years on him.
 
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Cooldude said:
So basicly you're saying we're sending out the best young spinner who's the most equipped on copping an absolute royal-smacking from the Indians :cool:

yes

temperament is very important when bowling in India and I think White has the confidence and ability to keep his head up in pressure situations.
 
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corporal said:
yes

temperament is very important when bowling in India and I think White has the confidence and ability to keep his head up in pressure situations.
Its been mentioned here before, but besides Watson, no one else has achieved more before turning 21. One of the main things he has over the other young spinners (Casson, Doherty) is that he has better control, this would be critical as he will be there to support Warne, not to be the number one striker. He has maturity beyond his years and has in recent seasons been in India with the CBCA as the main spinner. The sub-continent is physically and mentally demanding, White is by far an excellent choice.
 
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As a spinner, especially against India, you have to have a good, mature attitude.

You WILL get belted around, but you need to keep your head and remember that every ball can take a wicket, you just need to stick to a plan.
 
Great performance from the kid last night.

Queensland were cruising towards victory when Cameron came in and took 3-3 in a quick spell, ending the game with 4-42.

He also made a good contribution with the bat, and took 2 great catches.

Kid cops a lot of ******** from many here, some of it justified, but matchwinning performances like this one deserve some recognition.

Well done Cameron. :)
 
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Always good to see when a sportsman performs after the media spotlight has been on them.
 
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