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COLLINGWOOD MEDIA RELEASE

The Collingwood Football Club would like to advise that the following players have officially been de-listed:

Luke Shackleton
Luke Mullins
Steven McKee
Ben Kinnear (retired)

We would like to thank all players for the contribution they have made during their time at the club and wish them the very best for the future.



Nicki Malady
Communications Manager
Collingwood Football Club
 
God damn I hope Mullins gets picked up in the PSD and guns it, MM deserves it.

So we keep Williams...............again - thankyou Mick.

Your doing a top job at bringing the young talent through.. :rolleyes:
 

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CREDIT: richie_cole#13

remember reading somewhere else on this board (forget where, will find out who and credit them though) that if we promote leonard and maxwell, we need to delist 5 (adding to the loss of nixon via trade):

add: (we need to pick at least 3 under afl rules)
1st rnd pick
2nd rnd pick
3rd rnd pick (t.cloke)
morrison (trade)
leonard (rookie promotion)
maxwell (rookie promotion)
=6

lose:
nixon (trade)
kinnear (delisted)
mckee (delisted)
mullins (delisted)
shackleton (delisted)
=5

and thats not even allowing us to use a 4th rnd pick and/or our pre season draft selection which would mean delisting another 2 or 3.

what are we doing?
 
OMG mullins given no chance and delisted whilst williams given countless chances, proves hes f*cking useless and is kept :confused:
 
jimmy_clement#8 said:
CREDIT: richie_cole#13

remember reading somewhere else on this board (forget where, will find out who and credit them though) that if we promote leonard and maxwell, we need to delist 5 (adding to the loss of nixon via trade):

add: (we need to pick at least 3 under afl rules)
1st rnd pick
2nd rnd pick
3rd rnd pick (t.cloke)
morrison (trade)
leonard (rookie promotion)
maxwell (rookie promotion)
=6

lose:
nixon (trade)
kinnear (delisted)
mckee (delisted)
mullins (delisted)
shackleton (delisted)
=5

and thats not even allowing us to use a 4th rnd pick and/or our pre season draft selection which would mean delisting another 2 or 3.

what are we doing?
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We won't promote Leonard. As I've pointed out, there's no need.

I have a feeling, that we will delist another player before the end of the week, to get amongst the PSD. At least that's my dream!
 
Jimmy, it does seem odd. A move of Burns to veteran post outside the 38 might help out, plus these four delistings would leave us with 32 I believe on mainlist (Nixon/Morrison trade cancelling each other out). Add T Cloke and Maxwell = 34, leaving four spots on the mainlist. Three picks (10, 23 and 55ish) and a PSD (or use pick 71)? I hope we are going to promote Maxwell, but it doesn't seem likely for any other rookie promotions this year, and with 2 on the outside 38 vets spots, I think we are able to list just four rookies this time (38 plus 2 plus 4 = 44 total list?)

I guess the footy department is paid to use the calculator, but it's intriguing.....
 
twaters said:
Jimmy, it does seem odd. A move of Burns to veteran post outside the 38 might help out, plus these four delistings would leave us with 32 I believe on mainlist (Nixon/Morrison trade cancelling each other out). Add T Cloke and Maxwell = 34, leaving four spots on the mainlist. Three picks (10, 23 and 55ish) and a PSD (or use pick 71)? I hope we are going to promote Maxwell, but it doesn't seem likely for any other rookie promotions this year, and with 2 on the outside 38 vets spots, I think we are able to list just four rookies this time (38 plus 2 plus 4 = 44 total list?)

I guess the footy department is paid to use the calculator, but it's intriguing.....
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Out:
Nixon
McKee
Kinnear
Shackleton
Mullins
Burns (on to veterans list)

In:
Morrison
Maxwell (rookie promotion)
1st round pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick (Travis Cloke)
4th round pick OR PSD pick

So it's not BOTH a fourth round pick plus a fifth round/PSD pick, it's either a fourth round pick (possibly another Julian Rowe) and PSD pick (maybe a McGrath) or we can f:ucking keep that f:ucking hack Williams.

Our Club is in a more precarious position than it was in 1997!!
 

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FIGJAM said:
Out:
Nixon
McKee
Kinnear
Shackleton
Mullins
Burns (on to veterans list)

In:
Morrison
Maxwell (rookie promotion)
1st round pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick (Travis Cloke)
4th round pick OR PSD pick

So it's not BOTH a fourth round pick plus a fifth round/PSD pick, it's either a fourth round pick (possibly another Julian Rowe) and PSD pick (maybe a McGrath) or we can f:ucking keep that f:ucking hack Williams.

Our Club is in a more precarious position than it was in 1997!!
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wat a load of shyte mullins and shack shudda bin kept 4 another year n we shudda fkd off williams n obree, they cud both be decent players if mick faghouse gave them a go this is stupid maybe nxt year he can get fkd ova n we get a betta coach mick is ova he is no worth keeping i say we delist him
 
FIGJAM said:
Out:
Nixon
McKee
Kinnear
Shackleton
Mullins
Burns (on to veterans list)
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Burns going on to the Vets list doesn't free up a spot I believe. As it stands we are able to make 3 draft selections (In addition to Travis and Morrison being addded). I'm presuming there will be more to come. Randy aint safe yet me thinks.
 
Pedro said:
Burns going on to the Vets list doesn't free up a spot I believe.
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i thought it did......or was it because the players on the vets list only have half their salary in the cap or something like that, so depending on the clubs financial situation they had the option of adding another player to the list if they could afford it? lol i made a meal of trying to explain myself there...but yeah i was under the impression a vets spot list opened up another spot on the list :confused:

as for those delsitings, ffs MM that is stupid, shack fair enough but mullins showed some signs and i hope he gets picked up by another club, but preferably not collingwood because i want to see this kid get into the afl, become a 200 game player and stick it up MM for keeping a hack like williams on the list (for now) and ******** off young talent such as mullins

geez louise it makes you wonder sometimes
 
I think at least 1 further delisting will occur and this training period is going to be there last chance. I believe it should be between Williams, Swan and O'Bree. Don't be suprised if there is some wheeling and dealing between Collingwood and Hawthorn re the PSD. Apparently McGough is giong to be picked up by Bulldogs in the PSD with pick 3 and Patrick Bowden is giong to Richmond. We may delist a Lonie (OOC apparently) or O'Bree and let them take thim in exchange for not picking up our psd draft target whoever it is (apparently it is mainly McGrath).
 

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grayza said:
i thought it did......or was it because the players on the vets list only have half their salary in the cap or something like that, so depending on the clubs financial situation they had the option of adding another player to the list if they could afford it? lol i made a meal of trying to explain myself there...but yeah i was under the impression a vets spot list opened up another spot on the list :confused:
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The List

AFL clubs may carry up to 38 players under contract at any time. This "required list" are the only players from whom they can choose their weekly team. They are not allowed to select players not in this 38. Expansion clubs are usually given expanded lists of up to 50 players from which to choose, with the number gradually decreasing over several years.

The senior list has, at the AFL's insistence, been reduced. The list was cut from the traditional 42 to 40 in 1999 and again to 38 for 2000. Due to the reduced list, the reserves competition eliminated after the end of the 1999 season (see 'What happens to players who aren't selected?' below).

Two new AFL proposals will partially make up the shortfall. An injury list was introduced in 1999, so that clubs can keep long-term injured players who now have to be released to make room for fit players. Also, to make it easier for clubs to keep experienced players as mentors, the League now allows clubs to keep one or two "veterans" (age 30 or over, with at least ten years service with the same club) and count only half their salary against the salary cap. New clubs will receive special dispensations enabling them to select veterans who have played with them through every season of their club's existence.

A "rookie list" of four to six first-year players may be retained for developmental purposes. Rookie listed players can be elevated to the senior list at any time during the season as long as the club has an open spot. Openings can occur as the result of sudden retirement of a senior player, a senior player being placed on a long-term injury list (8 weeks or more), or simply a club has not filled all its spots at the start of the year for one reason or another. Any players kept on the veterans' list count against rookie list numbers.


The way I read that you can have 38 senior list players, including up to 2 veterans, as well as up to 6 rookies. The only thing different about veterans is that half their salary is included in the TPP.
 
jabso said:
We may delist a Lonie (OOC apparently) or O'Bree and let them take thim in exchange for not picking up our psd draft target whoever it is (apparently it is mainly McGrath).
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If we do this, I'm giving up completely.

Lonie is a fantastic youngster, and I rate him and Didak as the future of this football club.
 
My understanding of the veterans list is that we (all clubs) can pick from 40 players.

There are 38 listed players and 2 rookie list players who are nominated at the commencement of the year.

When a veteran hits said status, he absorbs one of the rookie spots.

From your post "Any players kept on the veterans' list count against rookie list numbers.". Thus, we can only select four rookies (three if we keep Crow). We still have 40 available players to select from, it's just two of ours will be "veterans".

This year we had 39 players, with Nathan Buckley plus Maxwell as spots 39 & 40. With Davidson going onto the long term injury list, we promoted Crow.

If McGough has indeed walked, then we're now clear to play for four rounds (ie. have three extra picks) and go into the PSD.
 
It used to be so simple...

Figjam's post is pretty much right except veterans do not have to be spots 39 to 40. You can get the salary cap advantage while counting them in the minimum 38.

Spots 1-38: 'Normal' player/veteran (i.e. all must be filled)
Spots 39-40: Veteran/rookie/nobody
Spots 41-44: Rookie/nobody
 
Finally the club is starting to put things right.

Getting rid of Duds like Shackelton and Mullins was long overdue.

I read the threads here all doom and gloom because the sky is falling because Mullins got delisted.
Well let's see if he makes the senior list of any other clubs, if he doesn't then all the coaches must be as 'stupid' as MM.
The boy was never going to be anything more than a reasonable VFL player and even at that level he was hot and cold.

When we make our second cut just prior to the PSD you can say goodbye to Williams too.

Well done Mick
 
I want Ashley McGrath.

Williams and/or O'Bree must make room for him, although he/they might get a reprieve if MCG walks.
 

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