Our B&F

[SM]

When is it announced, and who do you reckon it will be?

 

[SOPH_CROSS]

When is it announced, and who do you reckon it will be?

Club Champion is on the 3rd of October friday next week im going im so excited!

I think Jarred McVeigh hes just proven himself and really stepped up

 

[carsoutback]

Kirk would seem to be the favourite.

Do we think that Adam Goodes will get almost as many votes as Kirk and O'Keefe combined (as he did in the Brownlow)?

 

[Sanecow]

Do we think that Adam Goodes will get almost as many votes as Kirk and O'Keefe combined (as he did in the Brownlow)?

That would be a no.

 

[grimlock]

Is it a B or a B&F?

 

[liz]

I think Kirk will win it by some margin, with ROK and Macca fighting out the minor places. ROK's season has probably been slightly better overall but the gap between expectations and achievements favours Macca (ie we - and the coaches - all knew ROK could play that well but Macca's performances were less predicted). That may influence how many votes they get.

Will be interesting to see who they award "Most Improved" to. By any measure, Macca was our most improved but he won that accolade back in 2006 (before regressing in 2007). Will they give it to him again? Or will it go to Bevo?

 

[SM]

I'd expect Bevan to get Most Improved, or possibly Moore. Bevan was already in the team consistently, Moore wasn't.

I'm excited too, but don't know how I'll follow the results other than the one announcement we get on sydneyswans.com. Last year I had no idea when it was going to be and then all of a sudden Kirk had it won.

I must say I'm not too familiar with the whole thing, what awards are given out?

 

[Hooley McBoob]

I think it's best and fairest player, best first year player, most improved, and best clubman. Not sure if there is anything for highest goal kicker?

 

[MushroomRocket]

jarrad mcveigh, consistent, 40 odd goals, no suspensions, fair and the most improved.

Jarrad McVeigh.

 

[disgruntled goat]

I think Kirk will win it by some margin, with ROK and Macca fighting out the minor places. ROK's season has probably been slightly better overall but the gap between expectations and achievements favours Macca (ie we - and the coaches - all knew ROK could play that well but Macca's performances were less predicted). That may influence how many votes they get.

Will be interesting to see who they award "Most Improved" to. By any measure, Macca was our most improved but he won that accolade back in 2006 (before regressing in 2007). Will they give it to him again? Or will it go to Bevo?

Agreed, Liz. I'd have thought Kirk clearly, with McVeigh, ROK and Goodes probably fighting out placings behind him. Mattner and maybe Jolly, Jude, Bevan, Richards and Moore also should pick up minor votes, but I'm not sure the exact system.

 

[Dudley]

Agreed, Liz. I'd have thought Kirk clearly, with McVeigh, ROK and Goodes probably fighting out placings behind him. Mattner and maybe Jolly, Jude, Bevan, Richards and Moore also should pick up minor votes, but I'm not sure the exact system.

Agree, except i think Mcveigh will shade kirk based on expectation vs reward. I also think Jolly will place very highly.

 

[Bloods_33]

I think rok , mcveigh and kirky will finish top three just not sure what order.

 

[cinderella man]

Kirk would seem to be the favourite.

Do we think that Adam Goodes will get almost as many votes as Kirk and O'Keefe combined (as he did in the Brownlow)?

Goodes will be lucky if he is top 5 let alone out vote Kirk and O'keefe who will both be top 3 along with McVeigh.

 

[grimlock]

I think it's best and fairest player, best first year player, most improved, and best clubman. Not sure if there is anything for highest goal kicker?

Awards, with 2007 winners in brackets

B&F - Bobby Skilton Medal (Brett Kirk)
Best Clubman - Barry Round Shield (Adam Goodes)
Most Improved - Dennis Carroll Trophy (Darren Jolly, Ted Richards)
Best first year player - Rising Star (Tim Schmidt)
Not sure what this one is - Paul Kelly Player's Player (Craig Bolton)
Leading Goalkicker (Barry Hall)

The coaches allocate up to 10 votes to any number of players in each match.

Top 10 B&F 2007
Brett Kirk 461
Nick Malceski 396
Craig Bolton 392
Adam Goodes 358
Ryan O'Keefe 347
Peter Everitt 330
Leo Barry 295
Ben Mathews 295
Darren Jolly 289
Jude Bolton 286

Top 10 B&F 2006
Adam Goodes 520
Ryan O'Keefe 483
Brett Kirk 483
Barry Hall 481
Craig Bolton 442
Leo Barry 421
Amon Buchanan 400
Jude Bolton 357
Tadhg Kennelly 354
Luke Ablett 353
Jarrad McVeigh 353

Top 10 B&F 2005
Brett Kirk 575
Barry Hall 501
Craig Bolton 482
Amon Buchanan 442
Leo Barry 439
Tadhg Kennelly 409
Adam Goodes 399
Jude Bolton 373
Ryan O'Keefe 367
Jared Crouch 349

Top 10 B&F 2004
Barry Hall 466
Brett Kirk 432
Leo Barry 382
Ryan O'Keefe 370
Jude Bolton 363
Ben Mathews 355
Jared Crouch 351
Tadhg Kennelly 303
Jason Ball 288
Stuart Maxfield 285

 

[carsoutback]

Thank you for all of that Grimlock- makes good reading. Kirk's outstanding record is reinforced - close seconds and substantial wins during an historic period - plus perhaps another big win this year. The players player award would be the best as voted by the list - be interested to know how that system works.

 

[SOPH_CROSS]

do u want me 2 message u guys as they announce who wins what?