Our First 2008 draft pick

[CattersforPremiers]

It's a late pick at the moment because of our ladder position but what do you think that we need to get using our first pick?

keeping in mind Donohue is our final pick and i think somewhere in there we need to get Scott Thompson.

Im thinking a key backman personally because id like to see us trade/delist Spencer

 

[hbk_aus]

It's a late pick at the moment because of our ladder position but what do you think that we need to get using our first pick?

keeping in mind Donohue is our final pick and i think somewhere in there we need to get Scott Thompson.

Im thinking a key backman personally because id like to see us trade/delist Spencer

We may end up with a few extra picks after trade week has finished, but a young KP backman is a must i would think.

 

[cat_fanatic]

We may end up with a few extra picks after trade week has finished, but a young KP backman is a must i would think.

We will only want to draft three players in the national draft, maybe four. If we get involved in trade week and shift some players, it will be for higher draft picks, not more picks.

 

[thehoff]

Or a ruckman.... We might need one.

 

[re cat]

Trent West might go from ruckman mumber 4 to 2 in less than a week.

 

[sarah.13]

I think that we will only lose one of King or Blake.If Blake leaves King will stay in which case we would need to draft best available Ruckman.
If Blake stays,King would leave and we then should draft best available Key Position Backman.
My reasoning is that King has at best 2-3 years left, barring injury by which time Ottens will also be at the end of his career.Backup for West will need to be ready by then.That will take 3-4 years.
If Blake stays we can experiment a little bit more and draft a ruckman with a later pick or wait for Rookie draft.
We could then concentrate on our 1st pick on a KPBackman who in 2-3 years will be able to take over from Harley and Scarlett.

 

[BigKegs]

We need a tall backman who can play as a KPP and develop him for the next few years. Scarlett is more damaging as a loose rather than getting the best forward. Harley is second choice behind Egan as CHB and isn't as good as he used to be although he's still very handy. All our defenders would not be ideal in the FB position and Milburn wont be around in a few more years so by the time he retires, the young kids should be coming through.

 

[Geelong2k9]

I think that we will only lose one of King or Blake.If Blake leaves King will stay in which case we would need to draft best available Ruckman.
If Blake stays,King would leave and we then should draft best available Key Position Backman.
My reasoning is that King has at best 2-3 years left, barring injury by which time Ottens will also be at the end of his career.Backup for West will need to be ready by then.That will take 3-4 years.
If Blake stays we can experiment a little bit more and draft a ruckman with a later pick or wait for Rookie draft.
We could then concentrate on our 1st pick on a KPBackman who in 2-3 years will be able to take over from Harley and Scarlett.

Id like to hear from fellow Geelong peoples who they would delist/trade, elevate from rookie list and why?

Basically a list for 2008's Premiership

 

[catzfan]

Ok here's my perfect scenario.
Trade King to Colling wood, get #14
Trade Callan to Dogs get #38
So here's how we draft:
#14- Tom Collier. A bit like C.Cornes. 192cm, 86kg. Key position defender/midfielder. Good replacement for Harley when he retires. #17- Pat Veszpremi. A bit like L.Hodge (not as classy)/S.Hurn (faster.) Very versatile. Big kick, aggresive, fast,clever. Was injured this year so he dropped down the order. Would be good pick-up.
#34- Dawson Simpson. 207cm, mobile ruckman wih decent skills. Project player. Can't go wrong this pick. Good ruck depth and time to develop. Has the tools.
#38- Scott Thompson. You know the rest.
#50- Adam Donohue.
-Elevate Grima, Davenport, Lonergan
Out:
King
Callan
Gardiner
Playfair
Owen
S.Hunt
Spencer
Hogan

Its a massive change for a club that won a permiership but i be rapt if it happened!

 

[Whispers]

Ok here's my perfect scenario.
Trade King to Colling wood, get #14
Trade Callan to Dogs get #38
So here's how we draft:
#14- Tom Collier. A bit like C.Cornes. 192cm, 86kg. Key position defender/midfielder. Good replacement for Harley when he retires. #17- Pat Veszpremi. A bit like L.Hodge (not as classy)/S.Hurn (faster.) Very versatile. Big kick, aggresive, fast,clever. Was injured this year so he dropped down the order. Would be good pick-up.
#34- Dawson Simpson. 207cm, mobile ruckman wih decent skills. Project player. Can't go wrong this pick. Good ruck depth and time to develop. Has the tools.
#38- Scott Thompson. You know the rest.
#50- Adam Donohue.
-Elevate Grima, Davenport, Lonergan
Out:
King
Callan
Gardiner
Playfair
Owen
S.Hunt
Spencer
Hogan

Its a massive change for a club that won a permiership but i be rapt if it happened!

Leave Davenport on the rookie list and maintain Hogan. Kepp King on the list because we could benefit from the Blake trade with St. Kilda and Richmond keen on him. Apparently they have offered Blake deals which he approves on but both have offered Geelong 2nd round picks for Blakey and are bargining process could see Geelong claim an upgrade on out first round pick or even get another first round pick.

For a bloke no one rated and some still don't, a second or first round pick would be gold for the Caters!

 

[catzfan]

would be better to get a first for king though than a first for blake imo because i rate balek higher than king. But nominated rooking davenports a good idea

 

[nananana catman]

Thompson will be around to rookie.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Thompson will be around to rookie.

thompson will be gone before rookie draft

 

[Bryceson]

How about Scott Selwood with pick 17?? I'd like to see that.

If Blake or King goes (which I doubt they will) then pick 17 will be used for the best ruckman left.

 

[Go Hoops]

If,if,if Blake was to end up with St Kilda for their first draft pick we could use that to get Troy Selwood from Brisbane as he is apparently in dispute with them.

 

[Geelong2k9]

Shannon Byrnes
Tim Callan
Jason Davenport
Charlie Gardiner
Todd Grima
Simon Hogan?????
Sam Hunt?????
David Johnson?????
Tom Lonergan
Stephen Owen??????
Henry Playfair
Joel Reynolds
Matthew Spencer
Kane Tenace

In my opinion; the ones with a question mark I would query over delisting; DJohnson just fell away badly in the year.
SHunt was a really good mobile tall in the VFL in 2007; lead from the front.
SHogan showed enough to stay on the list, but might be cut with the new draftees coming through
SOwen, same as SHogan copped a knee injury, maybe rookie list him.

The ones in red are definates to get canned, due to either not making enough progress (Spencer) or just cause I think they suck (S Byrnes).

Lonergan/ Grima I would toss up about being elevated to the seniors; I would only elevate 1, as they both play key utility pos.

JDavenport is a 100% definate to get up (imo) to the seniors, he is a class above the VFL majority.

I would give Tenace another crack at it; had an interrupted year in 07; probably next year make or break

Just my opinion

 

[Just do something]

Shannon Byrnes
Tim Callan
Jason Davenport
Charlie Gardiner
Todd Grima
Simon Hogan?????
Sam Hunt?????
David Johnson?????
Tom Lonergan
Stephen Owen??????
Henry Playfair
Joel Reynolds
Matthew Spencer
Kane Tenace

In my opinion; the ones with a question mark I would query over delisting; DJohnson just fell away badly in the year.
SHunt was a really good mobile tall in the VFL in 2007; lead from the front.
SHogan showed enough to stay on the list, but might be cut with the new draftees coming through
SOwen, same as SHogan copped a knee injury, maybe rookie list him.

The ones in red are definates to get canned, due to either not making enough progress (Spencer) or just cause I think they suck (S Byrnes).

Lonergan/ Grima I would toss up about being elevated to the seniors; I would only elevate 1, as they both play key utility pos.

JDavenport is a 100% definate to get up (imo) to the seniors, he is a class above the VFL majority.

I would give Tenace another crack at it; had an interrupted year in 07; probably next year make or break

Just my opinion

I think we cant get rid of Hogan as it is his second year and why get rid of a young developing player.

 

[Geelong2k9]

I think we cant get rid of Hogan as it is his second year and why get rid of a young developing player.

I do agree with you, its just that we have at least 3 candidates possibly coming up for elevation from the rookie list; I like the games that ive seen Hogan play, similar game to Dasher, man on man, hassles all the time back flanker. But I only suggested him as I thought that as the majority of the other 1-2 year players have jumped on leaps and bounds.

I just think it comes down to who to push out when the new draftees come through???

 

[DanA]

My guess at what the club will do:

Senior List Delist/Trades:
1) Callan - Bulldogs
2) Spencer
3) Playfair
4) Gardiner
5) S.Hunt
6) Owen

Rookie List (delistings)
1) Reynolds
2) Grima

Elevate:
1) Lonergan
2) Davenport

Pick Up:
17 - David Gourdis
34 - James Polkinghorne
50 - Scott Thompson
66 - Adam Donohue

Rookie:
1) Joel Smouha
2) Joey Daye
3) Patrick Dangerfeild
4) Stephen Owen (rerookie)
5) Keep Liam Bedford

 

[thejester]

Given that the club is rolling in money after the grand final win, couldn't we elevate Grima and make Davenport a nominated rookie? Seems the best of both worlds.

 

[Rosso]

Given that the club is rolling in money after the grand final win, couldn't we elevate Grima and make Davenport a nominated rookie? Seems the best of both worlds.

Depends on what we do with Gardiner & H. If they are both traded/delisted then Grima should be elevated. Would help us out with salary cap room as well as giving us an additional KPP. I would suggest that Davenport would become the nominated rookie and Owen may be given the Lonergan treatment (delisted, then rookied). Otherwise we face a tough decision on Owen at the end of next season when he may've only played a handful of games. Pretty sure that Lonners has been given the nod as far as being upgraded to the senior list.

 

[Sticks_Of_Fury]

They will make as little change as possible to the list. I think they have said they want four draft picks and they will get that through the Callan trade. I think we should delist Playfair, Spencer and Sam Hunt pick up Thompson in the draft as well as another KPP upgrade Grima and Lonners, Davenport still has another rookie year no need to promote him just yet as he is not in our best 22. King will stay i would think club says they want him and he wants to stay.

 

[Sticks_Of_Fury]

Why are people saying delist Grima??? young KPP second in the VFL goalkicking and he probably would played in the 1s this year ahead of nablett and hawkins if he wasn't a rookie. He has a massive engine and will cost us nothing to pick up. Better then the wild stab in the dark at a 2nd of 3rd round KPP out of the draft i would think

 

[sarah.13]

They will make as little change as possible to the list. I think they have said they want four draft picks and they will get that through the Callan trade. I think we should delist Playfair, Spencer and Sam Hunt pick up Thompson in the draft as well as another KPP upgrade Grima and Lonners, Davenport still has another rookie year no need to promote him just yet as he is not in our best 22. King will stay i would think club says they want him and he wants to stay.

If they up grade Grima and Lonners they would then have to de-list 5 players!!
The 5 most likely IMO are Spencer,Gardiner,Playfair,S.Hunt and either Owen (draft back as a Rookie) or D.Johnson who did himself no favours last week.

 

[rizzo]

We are now in a position where we don't have to draft the best availible. But we can draft to our needs.

First two picks get 2 key defenders
third pick get a ruckman
fourth pick is Donohue

Thompson will be in the rookie draft. No club will take a risk on him in the national draft,