Our later Picks??

[audas]

Plenty of talk about our number one draft pick, can we get some input on what people want to see from the later picks.

Cheers

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Midfielders, Midfielders & more Midfielders with pace, i mean express pace. I know its hard to find but we need raw pace in our midfield and we need quality depth. Its harder to find a quality backmen/ foward later in the draft than it is to find a midfielder. Our backline provided it is fit and healthy consists of Bower (will be a very good player from what i have seen at VFL & AFL level. the Maguire type running CHB/HBFker. T-Bird, Carlos, Lance and hopefully Harts with Jake Edwards coming through the ranks. Our midfield is coming on put we need more depth in there so that they are challenged.

Stevens needs to be more accountable,is fantastic player with silky skills, for the last three years has been our soal "quality midfielder" and regularly gets the oppositions best tagger. He is an outsode midfielder and if we get more in there he can use he skills and deliver the ball to our fowards without as much pressure on him. Yes we also have Murphy (Dont doubt his a geniune GUN and my favourite player), Blackwell, Carrazzo, Bentick, but they lack real speed to break lines. Simmo, Tex have that pace but we need more of them.

Just look at the EAGLES, their SUPERSTARS are their midfield with exception to Glass (Backline player and probably not a superstar but still AA Fb) they have Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Embley, (Fletcher & Braun to a lesser extent but still quality) and the rest of the team is built around them.

So in an ideal world, this draft i would take
Pick 1. Gibbs, (we have to take the best midfielder NOW)
Pick 17 best available Ruckman/ Defender
Pick 19 Midfielder
Pick 35 Midfielder
Pick 51 Defender/ Foward

I may be wrong here but would be interested in your responces.

 

[Salaryman]

So in an ideal world, this draft i would take
Pick 1. Gibbs, (we have to take the best midfielder NOW)
Pick 17 best available Ruckman/ Defender
Pick 19 Midfielder
Pick 35 Midfielder
Pick 51 Defender/ Foward

I may be wrong here but would be interested in your responces.

I appreciate you said in an ideal world.......but my basic philosophy is we don't constrain ourself to 'types' for our first 3 picks, but go for best available.....in this years pool of talent, that is more likely to be mids IMO. I suspect there is a pool of about 5-6 we would be deciding between for picks 17 and 19, and see else who falls through if other clubs go tall early. As a general rule, I would be looking at small early and tall late. Overall 3 or 4 mids, maybe 1 tall KPD and 1 ruck prospect would be a good balance.

 

[DIG]

Best available early - although there must be a temptation to grab a ruck by pick 19 if someone like Renouf is still there, just depends who else has slipped through by then and is tempting us.

Could be safe to assume Bombers won't grab a ruck with #18 too??

Later picks have to best available also -although we should be prepared to comprimise slightly on that for needs if appopriate - eg to punt on a pacy midifelder.

 

[HBF]

I appreciate you said in an ideal world.......but my basic philosophy is we don't constrain ourself to 'types' for our first 3 picks, but go for best available.....in this years pool of talent, that is more likely to be mids IMO. I suspect there is a pool of about 5-6 we would be deciding between for picks 17 and 19, and see else who falls through if other clubs go tall early. As a general rule, I would be looking at small early and tall late. Overall 3 or 4 mids, maybe 1 tall KPD and 1 ruck prospect would be a good balance.

Absolutely agree 100% Gilly. This is the approach I hope we take on Draft Day. I wont name names, as I'm selecting for Carlton in the PD and don't want to give too much away.

#1 Gibbs - Obvious
#17 Best Mid
#19 Best Mid or KPD
#35 Best Mid or KPD (Opposite to #19)
#51 Ruckman
#67 Best Available

 

[Jeremias]

I would love to get Tim Houlihan and David Mackay with our picks 35 and 51.

67-who knows? Someone may slip, or we may pick a smokey (like Raso a few years back)

 

[Johnny_3]

i think a good strategy going into the draft is when picking midfielders with later picks to get extremely fast ones, instead of medium pace good skill type. Players like raines or someone else with extreme pace is hard to find thats why carlton should be looking at a good bottom ager.

 

[j-ham]

Our draft strategy after pick #1 will probably depend a bit on what Essendon does with pick#2 - If they pick Leuenberger I'd be picking the best KPP with #17 and the best mid with #19, and if they picked up say Hansen it'd be the other way around. I'm starting to think that the players I'd want (Armitage and N.Brown) probably wont get to these picks, so I'm ****ed if I know who to actually pick...

Pick #35 go the best ruck option if it warrants(Tippet maybe) or get another mid(Grigg) and let the ruck wait till #51 or #67. With 5/6 round pick I'd be seriously contemplating Jake Williams - The bloke looked great for a while in the TAC final, worth a go, might not be up to it for a few seasons - but I'd hate to see him become a star somewhere else when I really feel he could become a very good footballer.

End rant.
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[HBF]

I would love to get Tim Houlihan and David Mackay with our picks 35 and 51.

67-who knows? Someone may slip, or we may pick a smokey (like Raso a few years back)

You'll have big tick from Gilly and one big cross from him as well. He rates MacKay, but not houlihan.

Personally, Both of them aren't on my radar to be honest.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Best available all the way.

 

[Salaryman]

You'll have big tick from Gilly and one big cross from him as well. He rates MacKay, but not houlihan.

Personally, Both of them aren't on my radar to be honest.

Spot on HBF, would take McKay in an instant at #51 or #67 and pass on Houlihan, great athlete but from what i saw is essentially a run with player, i want us to target some potential classy accumulators and users of the ball.

 

[Force]

So noone thinks we should use any of our draft picks on the 3 father & sons, Greg williams, Wayne Johnston or sheldon? Interested on peoples thoughts.

 

[HBF]

Spot on HBF, would take McKay in an instant at #51 or #67 and pass on Houlihan, great athlete but from what i saw is essentially a run with player, i want us to target some potential classy accumulators and users of the ball.

I must say that McKay is on my radar ever so slightly, but don't rate him as highly as yourself mate.

BTW, should have that top 50 done over the weekend.

 

[footysmarts]

i'll be honest and say i'm a bit biased because i love watching him at mt gravatt in the QLD state league but chris smith would be a good pick up at 67. gets some good write ups on the "which QLD's will be drafted" thread. he definately has the pace you guys need and just as importantly has the skills and a brain.

 

[marcmurphy3]

So noone thinks we should use any of our draft picks on the 3 father & sons, Greg williams, Wayne Johnston or sheldon? Interested on peoples thoughts.

Ideally I'd like Sheldon to wait till next years draft to nominate, I'd take Williams with a late pick and Johnson with a rookie pick. Johnson is actually a bit unfortunate as he has suffered from injuries this year. He averaged 19 possesions with Sandringham last year as a bottom aged player, got lots of tackles and hard ball gets and often kicked bags of goals

 

[OZBomb]

For mine you take Gibbs and then play it by ear from there based on who you think is the next best available player. If the players are around even, then you go for your needs.

Some value much later in the draft...

Nick McKenna: Former state swimmer who is 191+cms and had an excellent National Carnival for Tasmania. Very quick off the mark and really good endurance. Can play Full Back, Full Forward or as a James Clement style defender.

Jethro Calma-Holt: Russell Robertson style medium forward with a massive leap and a flair for the spectacular. Good football brain and quick.

Jackson Sheringham: Has slipped back in most people's calculations after a quiet National Carnival. Pure unadulterated speed. What he lacks in height (177cms) he makes up for with good foot skills and smart choices.

Colin Garland: Full Forward/Full Back who played VFL for Tasmania later in the year. Has a Josh Kennedy type build but with better leg speed. Kicked 15 goals in a game for North Hobart seniors in the SFL. Ability to run all day and has played on the wing on occassion.

Orren Stephenson: Ruckman for North Ballarat in the VFL. 24 years old but played Rugby League until 19. 201 cms and 103kgs. Runs to the right places, has a good motor and still has scope for improvement.

 

[Adrenaline]

I may differ to most from what I have seen and what may be available.

#1 - Leuenberger - It is time to use a quality pick on a quality ruckman. who is said to be better than Cox and or Gardiner at the same time in their junior careers.

#17 - O'Brien - Love the look of this kid when i saw him at the carnival. Tough, strong and quick (backed up by impressive sprint results at the camp).
I agree with many that we need more pace through the midfield, but we also need hard bodies that run hard at the man and ball. Reminds me of a quicker version, but not a skillful, yet, as Lewis from Hawthorn. Maybe a Hislop or Collard may drift.

#19 - Allen/Mckensie/one of the Browns - All of which would make great CHB's as well as some being able to drift forward. This pick could be changed if there was a knowledge of who could be taken in the PSD. If it was a on-baller, then one of these 3 would be great for our list. If it was a tall such as Perry of North then I would change tact and look at one of Boak/Conners/Grigg/Pettard.

#35 - Best available, names that I believe that could be around Joe Anderson- Tough and hard running/Everitt - Project tall with great upside/Hogan - Draft camp stats read like Daniel Wells/ Schmidt - 5th largest handspan at the camp, hands bigger than half the ruckmen. Of course is a great mark and I believe given this may grow taller than his listed 186 CM's.

# 51 - Best available

# 67 - Best available

Draft to be balanced over the 6 picks + PSD

I would like a Ruckman, 2 KPP's and 4 Onballers.

Only my thoughts, would welcome feedback.

Cheers

 

[btdg]

The later picks are a crapshoot so who cares really. Chances are we only have one pick in that range (51), as we will most likely use 35 for a f/s selection. I doubt all 3 of our f/s possibilities will be gone by 51 when you factor in the other teams taking f/s in the third round- I'd just take whichever remaining f/s possibility remains when pick 51 comes around.

Given that whoever goes there is a pretty solid chance to go 2 and out (as in 2 years then delisted), we might as well throw another familiar name on there. At the least it'll give us a throwback to better days, might get a few older players involved with the club again, and its as good a reason to pick someone at that time of the draft as any.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I dont know about you fella's .... but I CANNOT flipping WAIT untill november 25th !!!

Whether it be Gibbs/Hansen/Luenberger, our first pick is going to be a star - followed by 3 other very good youngsters.

Im exciteddddd !!!!!!!!

 

[macca69]

I may differ to most from what I have seen and what may be available.

#1 - Leuenberger - It is time to use a quality pick on a quality ruckman. who is said to be better than Cox and or Gardiner at the same time in their junior careers.

#17 - O'Brien - Love the look of this kid when i saw him at the carnival. Tough, strong and quick (backed up by impressive sprint results at the camp).
I agree with many that we need more pace through the midfield, but we also need hard bodies that run hard at the man and ball. Reminds me of a quicker version, but not a skillful, yet, as Lewis from Hawthorn. Maybe a Hislop or Collard may drift.

#19 - Allen/Mckensie/one of the Browns - All of which would make great CHB's as well as some being able to drift forward. This pick could be changed if there was a knowledge of who could be taken in the PSD. If it was a on-baller, then one of these 3 would be great for our list. If it was a tall such as Perry of North then I would change tact and look at one of Boak/Conners/Grigg/Pettard.

#35 - Best available, names that I believe that could be around Joe Anderson- Tough and hard running/Everitt - Project tall with great upside/Hogan - Draft camp stats read like Daniel Wells/ Schmidt - 5th largest handspan at the camp, hands bigger than half the ruckmen. Of course is a great mark and I believe given this may grow taller than his listed 186 CM's.

# 51 - Best available

# 67 - Best available

Draft to be balanced over the 6 picks + PSD

I would like a Ruckman, 2 KPP's and 4 Onballers.

Only my thoughts, would welcome feedback.

Cheers

Very good read . Wouldn't surprise me at all if it turned out very similar to that.

 

[Dramoth]

So noone thinks we should use any of our draft picks on the 3 father & sons, Greg williams, Wayne Johnston or sheldon? Interested on peoples thoughts.

I think that we have pick 35 slated down as a F/S pick so it is either going to be one of Johnston or Williams.

I agree slightly with marcmurphy3 that Sheldon should be told to wait out a year and we will get him next year.

I think that we should take Williams as our F/S pick and pick Johnston in the rookie draft.

All 3 boys definitely want to play for the blues so I suspect that they will do what their fathers are told to tell them to do It's going to be an exciting prospect of seeing all three of these boys out on the field wearing the old dark navy blue

 

[Smell The Glove]

So noone thinks we should use any of our draft picks on the 3 father & sons, Greg williams, Wayne Johnston or sheldon? Interested on peoples thoughts.

Nope. One or more of them will certainly be available at pick 51, so we should wait until then. Try and rookie who is left.

 

[Force]

Nope. One or more of them will certainly be available at pick 51, so we should wait until then. Try and rookie who is left.

That would be great if thats the case, hope no other club grabs them first. Hate to see them star at another club!

 

[Smell The Glove]

That would be great if thats the case, hope no other club grabs them first. Hate to see them star at another club!

Oh definitely, but then we said the same thing about Cam Hunter a couple of years ago and he never went anywhere. Having said that I'd love Diesel or Dominator's son at the Blues next year, along with Whitnall, Waite and Blackwell.

 

[cfc05]

None of those boys, besides williams maybe are good enough to go before pick 51.

I very hghly doubt, unless Carlton pick them any of these will be drafted!