Paine or Haddin

[Piefan16]

Haddin's from NSW, says it all.....

 

[tomemy]

Should stick with Haddin for the tests and Matthew Wade for the shorter forms.

 

[dan warna]

Should stick with Haddin for the tests and Matthew Wade for the shorter forms.

paine or wade ahead of haddin in all forms of the game imo.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Should stick with Haddin for the tests and Matthew Wade for the shorter forms.

I'd most certainly have Wade ahead of Paine that is for sure.. Haddin probably deserves the summer but if he doesn't perform I'd be happy to see him gone,.

 

[fightingfury_88]

I would prefer Paine keeping right now but can understand keeping Haddin there for now.

 

[dan warna]

I would prefer Paine keeping right now but can understand keeping Haddin there for now.

why? paine is performing as well with the bat and better behind the stumps?

why select the inferior player?

is there some right to select an inferior player?

the logic of putting haddin back in over paine is baffling.

 

[fightingfury_88]

Mainly because Haddin already has experience in an Ashes series. Like I said before I would much prefer Paine in the side as I think he offers a lot more consistency but I can understand the selectors wanting to stick with a much more experienced keeper/batsman in Haddin for this Ashes series.

 

[lionbear]

Haddin only makes runs when Australia are 5/400, Paine any day of the week for me.

 

[dan warna]

Mainly because Haddin already has experience in an Ashes series. Like I said before I would much prefer Paine in the side as I think he offers a lot more consistency but I can understand the selectors wanting to stick with a much more experienced keeper/batsman in Haddin for this Ashes series.

This goes to my general opinion that we haven't had quality management in since end of the border era and much of the last 2 decades has been riding on the player management, discipline and training set down by border and simpson.

The NSW press have as much power as the national selectors.

Also I genuinely feel that we underperformed under tubby as good as we were, and only became the true power under s.waugh, who to some degree was the child of border and sawle and had his own steel edge after watching the executions dealt to australia under the windies.

Under ponting we have the residue of a great team, we select players by the NSW press, and who are mates, and on their reputation, or when we perceive there is no or little risk.

The discipline and steel under s.waugh has dissolved. We are like a great empire riding on our reputation and a hand full of one offs rather than the brutal machine we were 5 to 6 seasons ago.

I think the selectors contribute to the malaise.

Haddin is the 'low risk' option, NSW, mates with many of the players, solid, and his runs hide his incompetence behind the stumps. (he IS a good keeper but at international level, his work is definitely contributing to our failure).

Paine AND wade are better keepers than haddin.

both are equivalent or better batsmen. both are under 25 and therefore represent risk in the current thinking of the selectors.

Its time to bite the bullet and stop cruising. Draw a line in the team. Pick young guys like hazelwood, paine, doherty, and mid career players like white.

Make them fit, make them run, make them hungry.

Don't wait till they are 32/33 and have 'earned' their place at the twilight of their career. sure they'll get their 40s and 50s but they will be playing to hang on to their spots, not win.

As for brett lee....

 

[Smokey_22]

Haddins made some people look pretty stupid here.

Was always the best option.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

More gold from dan, you can just picture the vein in his forehead bulging when the NSW lad hit that ton.

 

[dan warna]

scored well and pulled us out of the fire with hussey, great innings, and atypical of what he and huss have shown us over the past year or so, but paine and wade and hartley are still better keepers

and besides a dirty cheating dishonest and dishonorable NSWman is still > pomme