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We all know he played a BOG game, but just to give everyone an idea of how effective he was for us, he was (For our team)...
First in Disposals
First in kicks
First in Clearances
First For Inside 50
First for rebounding out of 50!

Third in Marks

The only things that let him down were tackles

I have to say I am truly impressed with how good this kid is. My only worry is that we burn him out this year. He should be rested at some point.
 
In regards to burning him out... Donno. If he is the type to get injured he may get burnt out, but really I don't understand this idea of "resting" the kids between games. Kids heal faster, fact.

Unless he's got some degenerative disease, keep playing him, he will only get fitter.
 
He really is everything I hoped for and more. Every time I see him play I can't believe our luck that he dropped to pick 7.

He's on track for a Joel Selwood type debut year if he keeps this pace up. Knowing the wise judges in the east that probably still wouldn't be enough to win him the rising star though.
 
estibador said:
He really is everything I hoped for and more. Every time I see him play I can't believe our luck that he dropped to pick 7.

He's on track for a Joel Selwood type debut year if he keeps this pace up. Knowing the wise judges in the east that probably still wouldn't be enough to win him the rising star though.
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If he keeps this up for half of hopefully the 21 games he plays this season, he will win it easy.
 

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RE: rising star ... the commentator(not dunstall) on foxtel for the bris-haw game said that cyril rioli is the best rookie this yr and even though he hadn't gotten a nomination yet(wihich he couldn't believe) that he was by far:confused: the favourite to win the award . i couldn't beilieve the guy was so full of it now im not saying rhys is the favourite , there are a a number of good rookies this yr leuenberger is another!
 
Tommo said:
We all know he played a BOG game, but just to give everyone an idea of how effective he was for us, he was (For our team)...
First in Disposals
First in kicks
First in Clearances
First For Inside 50
First for rebounding out of 50!
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Hate to be a downer, but he was 16th for Disposal Efficiency (62.07) and =3rd (worst) in clangers (3). BUT, the other stats cover these easily & these negative stats were high because he worked so bloody hard and made worse in the last 1/4 when he was out on his feet. Hope he can pull up next week.

micfreo said:
RE: rising star ... the commentator(not dunstall) on foxtel for the bris-haw game said that cyril rioli is the best rookie this yr and even though he hadn't gotten a nomination yet(wihich he couldn't believe) that he was by far:confused: the favourite to win the award . i couldn't beilieve the guy was so full of it now im not saying rhys is the favourite , there are a a number of good rookies this yr leuenberger is another!
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They don't have any idea what happens outside of the East. I actually think Leuenberger is favourte then Palmer. Rioli might get it because of the 'excitement' factor of being a pocket type player.
 
I dont really care if he wins the Rising Star Award or not. In fact if he didn't win it, I reckon he would probably use it as motivation to get better the following year.

As for his efficiency (however you define that statistic), I can't help but think it is not a real issue. His disposal is not as good as what it was at WAFL level but thats because he has less time at the top level. His kicking is similar to Daniel Kerr's when he first started- give it some time and I bet he will iron it out the same way. Its his attitude and drive coupled with good general skill, speed and endurance that is going to make all the difference to this club.
 
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As for his efficiency (however you define that statistic), I can't help but think it is not a real issue. His disposal is not as good as what it was at WAFL level but thats because he has less time at the top level. His kicking is similar to Daniel Kerr's when he first started- give it some time and I bet he will iron it out the same way. Its his attitude and drive coupled with good general skill, speed and endurance that is going to make all the difference to this club.
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I'm thinking along the same lines as you.

I can assure you that after 20 - 30 games, his disposal statistics will have improved through the roof.

The thing that I like about Palmer is he has heart and I think that will push him past more naturally talented athletes. He is a worker who is prepared to work hard to succeed.

If only the clubs could measure the "heart muscle" before drafting.
 
PapaJ said:
Hate to be a downer, but he was 16th for Disposal Efficiency (62.07) and =3rd (worst) in clangers (3). BUT, the other stats cover these easily & these negative stats were high because he worked so bloody hard and made worse in the last 1/4 when he was out on his feet. Hope he can pull up next week.
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Papa, check out the thread showing these stats - it's got to be close to the most rubbish stat in the AFL at the moment. Believe what you see rather than some dodgy numbers on a page. It's footy, not maths.
 
Umm its not the most rubbish stat. He got the ball alot, but he also did stuff it up almost half the time but worked hard to minimise the stuff ups. These stuffups include just booting the ball into the forward line and not being marked.
 
Bradesmaen said:
Umm its not the most rubbish stat. He got the ball alot, but he also did stuff it up almost half the time but worked hard to minimise the stuff ups. These stuffups include just booting the ball into the forward line and not being marked.
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I don't agree that that's always a 'stuff up'. Surely moving the ball forward when you're under pressure and have no real options it is the best thing to do? The players that annoy me the most are those who are more worried about this ridiculous stat and would rather get an 'effective' handball to a teammate under more pressure. Makes their stats look good, but does nothing to help the team. Palmer's disposal may not be perfect, but it's a long way off being the worst at Freo.
 
Does anyone else think that Marcus Drum may get the rising star nomination for this week? He played a pretty good game and alot of his disposals were effective too.
 

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nah, needs to string a few together to get the nod. He's probably due one though.

Drum, Ibbo, Mayne, Hinkley, Brock - any of these guys could follow Palmer and get a nomination at some stage during the year. Sweeeeeet!!!!
 
Palmer will start getting tagged soon if his form continues, which says as much about his form as it does for the other members of our midfield.

Having a 9 day break after round 6 and a 14 day break after round 7 should be very beneficial to a guy in his first AFL season. There's also a 9 day break after round 13 and a 13 day break after round 14 so aslong as he doesn't get injured Rhys should be fit enough to play all 21 games of the regular season.
 
chook2734 said:
Papa, check out the thread showing these stats - it's got to be close to the most rubbish stat in the AFL at the moment. Believe what you see rather than some dodgy numbers on a page. It's footy, not maths.
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Spot on. One of the most annoying thing about this DreamTeam obsession is people quoting bullshit stats at you when they didn't even watch the game.

A midfielder can win the hard ball at the centre bouncedown, weave through heavy traffic, and win the all important centre clearance for his side by banging it deep into the forward line under extreme pressure. But if no one marks it he gets 0% efficiency for his efforts.

Meanwhile a soft half bank flanker takes an easy mark out in the open and instead of taking the game on he chooses to do a 15m sideways or backward kick to an unmarked teammate. For his wonderful bit of play he gets a 100% efficiency rating.

Now you tell me which is more valuable to their side?

But still you get all the little tools coming on here saying:

"palmer is sux0rs wif his 58% rating wtf lol!!!!111... bowden is much awsumer playa wif 93% lol!!!!!1111"
 

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Bradesmaen said:
McLeod did have a shocking day in terms of disposal. Everyone that I was with at the game noticed it.
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Official stats from Saturdays game:
AMcLeod:18 kicks,16 handballs,34 possessions.Inside 50s 6,out of 50 1,marks 4,clearances 3,clangers 3, tackles 1.
Hardly poor disposal.
R Palmer:21 kicks,8 handballs,29 possessions.out of defensive 50 4,into 50 5,marks 8,clearances 5,clangers 3,tackles 1.

How do you get that McLeods disposal was poor?
How do you get that Palmers disposal was poor.
Where did you get your stats from? The stat I have given you are official stats.Obviously the people who were around you know as much about football as you.
 
chook2734 said:
Papa, check out the thread showing these stats - it's got to be close to the most rubbish stat in the AFL at the moment. Believe what you see rather than some dodgy numbers on a page. It's footy, not maths.
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Yea, look you're right. They are a bit dodgy. I'm not putting too much weight on them at all. It's like clangers, I'm not sure after last week, but as of round 4, I think Geelong were one of the top clanger sides!!. The only reason for that is that they use the ball so much. Individual stats don't always mean that much, I was just throwing it out there.

As I said, he's a genuine star and makes the rest of the team just seem sleepy with his intensity and 'in the thick of it' speed.
 
anchor man said:
Official stats from Saturdays game:
AMcLeod:18 kicks,16 handballs,34 possessions.Inside 50s 6,out of 50 1,marks 4,clearances 3,clangers 3, tackles 1.
Hardly poor disposal.
R Palmer:21 kicks,8 handballs,29 possessions.out of defensive 50 4,into 50 5,marks 8,clearances 5,clangers 3,tackles 1.

How do you get that McLeods disposal was poor?
How do you get that Palmers disposal was poor.
Where did you get your stats from? The stat I have given you are official stats.Obviously the people who were around you know as much about football as you.
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Clangers aren't kicking errors, nuff said. You should know that, but you don't.
 
Obviously you are a very young fella so I will make allowances for you ,but begin to learn the basics of the game before you start to can people here for not bowing to yout opinions.Obviously you have a good hold but not on the game.
 
This kid will be an absolute star. Absolutley wrapped Freo have come out on top of this one considering Essendon got Myers. Afterall Freo gave us pick 8 plud Medhurst for Tarrant. Thanks Freo, good luck with Palmer. :thumbsu:
 
estibador said:
Spot on. One of the most annoying thing about this DreamTeam obsession is people quoting bullshit stats at you when they didn't even watch the game.

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"palmer is sux0rs wif his 58% rating wtf lol!!!!111... bowden is much awsumer playa wif 93% lol!!!!!1111"
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I'm not sure if you're having a go at my original post, I probably didn't write it in the best tone. Although I think certain stats in certain contexts can tell you something, I generally couldn't agree with you more. My main point I was trying to make is that Palmer might have high error stats in that game because he's having a red hot go, and working under pressure etc. etc.

For the record, and now I'm really going off topic, I thought Macca was a reasonable contributor to the game last week yet his stats suck - but he made it clear to the rest of the team what intensity is all about and, frankly I would have taken that against Richmond and a pile of crap stats to go with it rather than put up with the rubbish witnessed in that game ... if that makes sense.
 

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