Pass Mark Next Year

[TigersMan4]

PLEASE DELETE THIS THREADS MODS !!!

Just wasted 2 hours of my life with alot of crap that i just could not understand the value of reading ----------- Pissing contest between a few that want to write esay's

It's the off season, what do you want? Better something to talk about than nothing..

 

[RunningBounce]

A pass mark is 50%, which in a school subject is just scraping over the line and being allowed to go on to the next challenge.

I reckon most in the thread have nailed it. A pass mark for Richmond in 2014 is to win a final.

We all expect improvement every year. That's the bare minimum improvement before we all storm Punt Rd and string someone up with yellow and black socks.

 

[Infamy]

Anything below the Top 6 is a fail, one final win is a pass but we should be expecting Top 4 after the draw we received. A bit of travel, but we play well on the road so not concerned about that.

 

[DustinsGuns]

Top 8. Win the first final.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

With our draw.Top 4 is there for the taking.

 

[WATIGE]

A pass mark is to improve from last year.

Measureably that means going from 15 wins to 16 wins, and winning a final. Our draw is defintely not harder than last years with an apparently better starting run. Many would say that the draw is "easier" should be worth at least one more win. (Plus infractions to come !!) Of the last 13 seasons there is only 1 where 16 wins has not placed the team firmly inside the top four (that one season was when 17wins = 4th and 14wins = 5th).

Thus a pass mark is top 4 and 1 finals win (therefore at least two played!!).

In a very old school parlance :
D = top 4, 1 finals win
C = top 4, 2 finals wins,
B = top 4, 3 finals wins,
A = GF WIN.

Not sure if I'd rate a resuilt the same as last year as a D- or an E+ !!!!

 

[Holy Foley!]

Spoon = Expulsion
Miss finals = Fail
Finals = Pass
Finals + 1 win = C
2 wins or more = A+

 

[Mr Magic]

What is the minimum requirement for next year in terms of on-field performance? Bottom line is, we have to make finals. Should be aiming for a top 4 position, but would anyone truly be disappointed if we didn't achieve it?
Pass Mark: Finals
Aims: Finals + at least second stage of finals

Anything less will be seen as an huge disappointment and just may see Dimma to the door.

Finals is a distraction for me, main goal is player development , particularly the youngsters to prepare us for the next premiership tilt!!


So for me next to no gsmes for McIntosh =fail.-showing something

Next no good games for McBean =fail and need to show something


more games for Dea, improvement for Vlastuin, Ellis, Martin needs to improve impact run games out more even if more as a forward.

Successful season within reason for our pick 1-with bright future -win


Without stating the obvious all other players on the improvement curve is a win because all of them are part of our team , success and future!!

 

[theflea]

Well generally the teams that up their training loads in late July/August look fresher and run out games in September better.

So no I don't think that Richmond were on increased training loads in the week before the Hawthorn match


In the finals that argument does show something - if you had knocked over the Blues, how far do you think you could have gone in the finals?
Alternatively you could watch the Carlton v Richmond Elimination Final and then watch the 2 Qualifying Finals and 2 Preliminary Finals and you'd see there was a gap in the standard of those matches

Whether North or Richmond is a better team is a matter for debate. Richmond had a much easier fixture than North, and while making the finals couldn't win one. North lost heaps of close games costing them a finals berth, yet comfortably beat Richmond. If you'd surveyed the teams in the 8 as to whether they'd prefer North or Carlton to make the 8 I think they'd have all voted the Blues in.


Interesting argument re the Grand Final. Fremantle had a lot of misses from tough chances, Hawthorn's forward line entries were better.
I'd argue that when Fremantle really challenged Hawthorn in the third quarter, Hawthorn lifted and went a match winning 30 points ahead half way through the last quarter.


I expect Richmond will make the finals again this year and that they should win a final.

If you think Richmond are better than I do, then what are your expectations for 2014?

Well since the players actually said this, then you are wrong in that assumption. I would also add that being run over from behind isn't new but losing a player and a runner at that 5mins into the game certainly had an effect.

 

[TJTIGER]

Sen just said we'll win 11 games

Actually I don't mind them saying this….More grist for the mill in motivating the players. After the WTF moment… it's a we'll shows these bananas………….

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

A pass for me would be top 4 and a finals win. But would sill settle for a finals win.

 

[partycorolla]

A pass mark is to improve from last year.

Measureably that means going from 15 wins to 16 wins, and winning a final. Our draw is defintely not harder than last years with an apparently better starting run. Many would say that the draw is "easier" should be worth at least one more win. (Plus infractions to come !!) Of the last 13 seasons there is only 1 where 16 wins has not placed the team firmly inside the top four (that one season was when 17wins = 4th and 14wins = 5th).

Thus a pass mark is top 4 and 1 finals win (therefore at least two played!!).

In a very old school parlance :
D = top 4, 1 finals win
C = top 4, 2 finals wins,
B = top 4, 3 finals wins,
A = GF WIN.

Not sure if I'd rate a resuilt the same as last year as a D- or an E+ !!!!

Look I am a teacher, so I don't wish to perpetuate the stereotype but if we finish top 4 and have 3 finals wins, that means we win the flag but you are only giving us a B.... that's harsh....

 

[JackoTiger]

It's a risky business judging the strength of a draw pre-season, there are always teams exceeding expectations (last year Port and maybe Brisbane/GC) and spectacular flops (last year Adelaide and West Coast, don't forget West Coast 2010). Freo's draw last year is a prime example, going into the season it seemed reasonably tough but turned out to be a bit of a cake-walk.

Having said that, I do expect us to finish top 4 and win a final - but not on the back of the strength (or lack thereof) of our draw. We finished 5th last season and with some improvement should earn 4th next year.

 

[WATIGE]

Look I am a teacher, so I don't wish to perpetuate the stereotype but if we finish top 4 and have 3 finals wins, that means we win the flag but you are only giving us a B.... that's harsh....

AHhhhhhh - so my posts do get read and the hidden error has been found

 

[_DBF_]

Pass mark for me is to play in a PF

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

The key thing about our list is that we have lost nobody major over the off-season and our core star players are still relatively young. Our improvement will come from our second tier players like Grimes, Conca, Ellis and hopefully Vickery. Without major injuries I can't see why we'd go backwards, maybe our forward line still lacks another dimension but our defence is looking pretty settled with everybody having a role. I'd say to play finals again would be the pass mark but only just. Keep in mind we finished fifth at the end of the home and away season and so improving that seeding should be our aim. A top four finish should be the aim, and when you're in the top four, you're well in the hunt for the flag!!

 

[THE_GUN]

With another year into Ellis,Vlastuin,Conca,Grimes,Helbig,Arnot
Combined with an Extremely soft Draw

Top 4 is expected or Top 6 with at least 1 win in the Finals

 

[BearMe]

Top 8 absolute must should finish around 4 to 6 spot with our draw, if we get rolled in first final its a failed year. Minimum 1 finals win is just a pass, 2 wins or more its been a good season.