Certified Legendary Thread Patrick Cripps and Ah Chee

[perplexed]

Two weeks was completely predictable but generous penalty. How this is careless rather than intentional I don't get.
If he wasn't trying to bump what was he trying to do?

 

[Skull Face]

Identical except

1 rioli was in a MARKING contest cripps was not

2 rioli had his arms out to mark the ball cripps did not

3 Rowell was not concussed and didn't miss any football , ahchee was taken from the field and was subbed out with concussion missing the rest of the game and the next game

Was a nice excuse to abuse the sub rule for sure

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Yeah I'm fine with it being two weeks personally. Just thinking about how Carlton's team will play it all. They will still dispute it because why not.

Why not? Because the tribunal can give him an even bigger penalty

Just take the two and he'll be back for round 1

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Dow against Petracca will be a battle for the ages

I think most clubs depth midfielders would struggle with Petracca.

 

[Rich01]

Dow against Petracca will be a battle for the ages

Similar style midfield actually.

Dow/Petracca - burst impact mids.
Walsh/Oliver - accumulators.
Setterfield/Viney - tough inside ball winners.
Cerra/Brayshaw - outside runners.

Should be an interesting match up.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

I think most clubs depth midfielders would struggle with Petracca.

Pick 3 for a depth midfielder is astute

 

[bungalow_bill]

CRIPPS FREE TO PLAY IN 2023!

SUCK IT BIGFOOTY.

efa

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Why not? Because the tribunal can give him an even bigger penalty

Just take the two and he'll be back for round 1

No they can’t. The only penalty for the player/club is a 10k fine for losing in their soft cap.

 

[Maddo11]

Similar style midfield actually.

Dow/Petracca - burst impact mids.
Walsh/Oliver - accumulators.
Setterfield/Viney - tough inside ball winners.
Cerra/Brayshaw - outside runners.

Should be an interesting match up.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how much Carlton get rinsed by

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Pick 3 for a depth midfielder is astute

We’re just that deep through the guts.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Two weeks was completely predictable but generous penalty. How this is careless rather than intentional I don't get.
If he wasn't trying to bump what was he trying to do?

Intentional is rare and you sort of have to mean it. Can see why it was deemed careless.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We’re just that deep through the guts.

Surely and I means surely Stocker plays as an inside mid this week.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Surely and I means surely Stocker plays as an inside mid this week.

Why? Crippa is getting off

 

[HirdyLannister]

Cripps is a weak gutter dog

 

[Pistol Night]

I think most clubs depth midfielders would struggle with Petracca.

 

[perplexed]

Intentional is rare and you sort of have to mean it. Can see why it was deemed careless.

He did mean it. He jumped to bump, and made contact to the head.

For comparison, JHF was graded as intentional, high contact because his forearm grazed Kelly's cheek when he was throwing cheap shot to the chest. He got two weeks when his intention seemed to be a harmless body shot.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Cripps is very lucky to only get two weeks for what was a weak dog act. He made no attempt on the ball and instead opted to get airborne and make contact with an opponent’s head. Ah Chee was wide open and Cripps showed a complete lack of courage. Ah Chee was concussed and took no further part in the game, which I believe warrants an extra week. As usual the MRP and football media runs a protection racket for Victorian clubs and players.

Captain Cowardly

 

[Pistol Night]

Im all for a Carlton bashing session but the trolling of Cripps on here is laughable.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Why? Crippa is getting off

No he isn’t. He’s actually lucky it wasn’t graded severe. He’s actually hit the softest grading out there

 

[bungalow_bill]

Similar style midfield actually.

Dow/Petracca - burst impact mids.
Walsh/Oliver - accumulators.
Setterfield/Viney - tough inside ball winners.
Cerra/Brayshaw - outside runners.

Should be an interesting massacre

efa

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He did mean it. He jumped to bump, and made contact to the head.

For comparison, JHF was graded as intentional, high contact because his forearm grazed Kelly's cheek when he was throwing cheap shot to the chest. He got two weeks when his intention seemed to be a harmless body shot.

Gut punches have been intentional all year long as they should have been.

This was different it was careless and just unlucky it went high. Was an obvious grading careless-high-high although you could argue severe.

 

[perplexed]

Gut punches have been intentional all year long as they should have been.

This was different it was careless and just unlucky it went high. Was an obvious grading careless-high-high although you could argue severe.

My point was JHF's punch was graded 'intentional' and 'high' even though he mostly hit him in the chest and the high bit was barely noticeable and completely harmless.
Clearly Cripps intended to contact Ah Chee and he got him high. I also don't know how Cripps can be considered unlucky to contact Ah Chee high when he jumped. Isn't it fair to assume that that was why he jumped?

This just seems like another decision that ignores the grading system to suit a preferred outcome.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

My point was JHF's punch was graded 'intentional' and 'high' even though he mostly hit him in the chest and the high bit was barely noticeable and completely harmless.
Clearly Cripps intended to contact Ah Chee and he got him high. I also don't know how Cripps can be considered unlucky to contact Ah Chee high when he jumped. Isn't it fair to assume that that was why he jumped?

This just seems like another decision that ignores the grading system to suit a preferred outcome.

You can jump to make a body contact. It’s the high part that is careless. There is no way it was being graded intentional. They have the charge spot on.

 

[JyeDye]

My point was JHF's punch was graded 'intentional' and 'high' even though he mostly hit him in the chest and the high bit was barely noticeable and completely harmless.
Clearly Cripps intended to contact Ah Chee and he got him high. I also don't know how Cripps can be considered unlucky to contact Ah Chee high when he jumped. Isn't it fair to assume that that was why he jumped?

This just seems like another decision that ignores the grading system to suit a preferred outcome.

This hits the grading to a tee. No idea what you're on about. A punch is intentional. That's why it's a punch. A guy bracing in midair is just being careless. He jumped to try and get the ball. It's the correct decision.

 

[Saint]

But he's jumping for the ball? It's not like this was off the ball. He's jumping trying to grab the ball. You are allowed to do that. Ah Chee being hit by his hip is just how the sport goes sometimes.

I obviously have a biased interest in him getting off but there are definitely arguments for it. Given the precedent set earlier this year with Rioli, they either have to acknowledge they got that one wrong, or Cripps gets off. Carlton will definitely dispute it if he gets weeks.

It's just not as clear cut as you initially think. I still think he'll get weeks but this case is going to drag out to a tribunal hearing I think.

Even if you jump for the ball, you're responsible for what happens if you jump into somebody's head.