Certified Legendary Thread Patrick Cripps and Ah Chee

[le dominateur]

Time to bring out the Netball bibs.


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[Pistol Night]

Apparently he is challenging it.. Hope it gets downgraded to 1 week for the Collingwood melts..

Why would we give a shit?

 

[Boxhead_31]

 

[Saint]

So can you list all the players who have been suspended for taking a speccy by jumping and putting their knee into their opponents head?

It wasn't a marking contest. If you can list all the players who have knocked somebody out when taking a speccy, I'll point out the ones who got suspended.

The reality is, if you're second to the ball and you knock somebody out when you jump and bump them in the head and you're not tackling, you're getting weeks.

 

[00Stinger]

The way the rules are applied these days I can't see how Carlton could think he should get off for this

Left the ground, hit the guy in the head and had him leave the ground with concussion

It wasn't a marking contest so not sure how they can defend him leaping.

It's a 3 weeker for mine

 

[JyeDye]

The way the rules are applied these days I can't see how Carlton could think he should get off for this

Left the ground, hit the guy in the head and had him leave the ground with concussion

It wasn't a marking contest so not sure how they can defend him leaping.

It's a 3 weeker for mine

So they'll appeal saying that it was reasonable for him to turn his body as the contact was inevitable in the contest. It doesn't matter that it wasn't a marking contest, you are allowed to contest for the ball whether that's from a kick, handball, throw, punch, whatever. So he is allowed to jump for the ball. It's whether the bracing for contact is deemed reasonable.

Is it reasonable? Probably not, as others have said he could have had his hands out further or made more attempt to try and grab the ball. And if it wasn't for Rioli in round one I doubt they would even appeal this. But they will try and use that as evidence of a prior incident of someone jumping to compete for a ball and then turning and bracing in the contest as a reasonable action. So they won't be arguing about the carelessness, or the impact rating being lowered, it's all about whether it was a reasonable action in the contest. So he'll either get off free, or cop his two weeks.

 

[00Stinger]

So they'll appeal saying that it was reasonable for him to turn his body as the contact was inevitable in the contest. It doesn't matter that it wasn't a marking contest, you are allowed to contest for the ball whether that's from a kick, handball, throw, punch, whatever. So he is allowed to jump for the ball. It's whether the bracing for contact is deemed reasonable.

Is it reasonable? Probably not, as others have said he could have had his hands out further or made more attempt to try and grab the ball. And if it wasn't for Rioli in round one I doubt they would even appeal this. But they will try and use that as evidence of a prior incident of someone jumping to compete for a ball and then turning and bracing in the contest as a reasonable action. So they won't be arguing about the carelessness, or the impact rating being lowered, it's all about whether it was a reasonable action in the contest. So he'll either get off free, or cop his two weeks.

I think the fact he left the ground, choose to bump and got to the contest late (even if it was a split second) coupled with the fact the player left the game with concussion makes over turning impossible.

If he gets off the tribunal is a farce, but lets face it we kind of already know that. We have seen the AFL say the head is sacrosanct and then turn a blind eye when Cotchin ko's a player in a preliminary final so who knows

 

[JyeDye]

I think the fact he left the ground, choose to bump and got to the contest late (even if it was a split second) coupled with the fact the player left the game with concussion makes over turning impossible.

If he gets off the tribunal is a farce, but lets face it we kind of already know that. We have seen the AFL say the head is sacrosanct and then turn a blind eye when Cotchin ko's a player in a preliminary final so who knows

Yeah I don't think he will get off at all. If Ah Chee wasn't concussed I'd say maybe. The whole argument will be that Cripps wasn't bumping him, that the impact was just a part of the aerial contest where Cripps is allowed to brace for the inevitable contact. Rioli getting off was a farce, probably only got off because Rowell played out the game, which is stupid.

I can see them somehow pulling out some bull to lower Cripps to a one game suspension for 90 000 against Collingwood. Can't imagine the melts if that happens.

 

[Pistol Night]

Yeah I don't think he will get off at all. If Ah Chee wasn't concussed I'd say maybe. The whole argument will be that Cripps wasn't bumping him, that the impact was just a part of the aerial contest where Cripps is allowed to brace for the inevitable contact. Rioli getting off was a farce, probably only got off because Rowell played out the game, which is stupid.

I can see them somehow pulling out some bull to lower Cripps to a one game suspension for 90 000 against Collingwood. Can't imagine the melts if that happens.

I hope he does play against us. Will make the game half interesting at least.

 

[JyeDye]

I hope he does play against us. Will make the game half interesting at least.

Nah we will win regardless. Back to the 2021 days of Walsh being our entire midfield. He'll get 50 touches and kick 6 goals.

 

[Pistol Night]

Nah we will win regardless. Back to the 2021 days of Walsh being our entire midfield. He'll get 50 touches and kick 6 goals.

Haha should be a cracker regardless. Whoever is favourite means nothing in these games

 

[Belnakor]

Rioli getting off was a farce, probably only got off because Rowell played out the game, which is stupid.

the old discount because the player you hit was a hard nut.

Imagine being a club where your ex-player has come out and said his life has been permanently effected from a head high hit, and the same week you pay a bunch of QCs thousands of dollars to get a player off who hit someone in the head lol

 

[Hollow Knight]

So many people failing to grasp it wasn’t a marking contest.

 

[00Stinger]

Yeah I don't think he will get off at all. If Ah Chee wasn't concussed I'd say maybe. The whole argument will be that Cripps wasn't bumping him, that the impact was just a part of the aerial contest where Cripps is allowed to brace for the inevitable contact. Rioli getting off was a farce, probably only got off because Rowell played out the game, which is stupid.

I can see them somehow pulling out some bull to lower Cripps to a one game suspension for 90 000 against Collingwood. Can't imagine the melts if that happens.

Yeah I don't have a big issue with the action personally, its just more how these actions are judged these days

The Rioli was a joke, its the action that should be graded not the result of the action.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think the fact he left the ground, choose to bump and got to the contest late (even if it was a split second) coupled with the fact the player left the game with concussion makes over turning impossible.

If he gets off the tribunal is a farce, but lets face it we kind of already know that. We have seen the AFL say the head is sacrosanct and then turn a blind eye when Cotchin ko's a player in a preliminary final so who knows

Jack Viney did this to Hurn and wasnt even cited. Four years ago, 2017.

Was a marking contest and Viney had copped a good legal bump from Hurn earlier and was evening up the ledger. Viney charged front on, jumped and turned his body with an arm extended to spoil but missed and got Hurn in the head with his hip. Hurn was helped off concussed. Was a dog act and Dermie and his cronies thought it was funny.

Maybe they 'changed the interpretation' since.

The moment Hurn was ironed out

IT was the moment the Eagles lost their skipper – and may have lost the game.

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[Kanye West]

Could be just the thing to fire up Carlton and rescue the season. A bit of 'us against them' grunt.

They checked out after they won their GF against Freo. Congratulations on that mighty win to, Blues!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Apparently he is challenging it.. Hope it gets downgraded to 1 week for the Collingwood melts..

It can’t. It’s either 0 or 2. Not sure how they are challenging grading, being subbed out is high impact and it was high contact, careless is obvious.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Also by pleading not guilty it allows them to challenge via the courts and what not if it comes to that. I hope whatever the outcome is at the tribunal it’s accepted by everyone. Gut feeling is he’s found guilty

 

[tiger_tough]

I don't understand the comparison to the Willie Rioli

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Willie Rioli

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30

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175cm

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78kg

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Last 5

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12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

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11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

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3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

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1.8

4star

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0.6

3star

incident. One was a marking contest, one was a loose ball. In a marking contest you can pretty much cave a blokes head in as long as it's a realistic attempt at a mark. There is no real duty of care in a marking contest providing it's a realistic attempt. The same does not apply for a loose ball. It doesn't matter if there is an alternative in a marking contest, it is all that matters in a loose ball contest where you choose to bump. Plus Rowell wasn't concussed.

I'd be shocked if he get's off.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I don't see the angle for challenging this. What's the argument gonna be?

 

[Testekill]

So many people failing to grasp it wasn’t a marking contest.

Remember how people were defending Toby Greene going studs first into Dahlhaus' face because he was protecting himself in a marking contest? Same thing, it wasn't one.

 

[RAPPA]

I don't see the angle for challenging this. What's the argument gonna be?

It's Mabo. It's the vibe.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't see the angle for challenging this. What's the argument gonna be?

Football accident

They have nothing to lose anyway they know they are totally screwed if he’s not there against the Pies

 

[adammania9]

Based on what?

Your obvious bias against everything Carlton?

Or did he do a Hamish and run over your dog?

I don’t care about Carlton

 

[Pklz]

So many people failing to grasp it wasn’t a marking contest.

What difference does it make if it is or isn't a marking contest? If you're late to a marking contest, make high contact and it results in someone having concussion the outcome should be the same.

FWIW I think we'll struggle to fight it purely because of the concussion. What's frustrating is you see guys like Rioli earlier this season get off when his action was 5x worse than Cripps but was lucky that Rowell wasn't concussed or injured.