2nds The Peel Thunder Thread (Round 5 vs. West Perth @ 1.10pm Sat 2nd May on 7plus)

[Superkoops]

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Ras playing WAFL makes sense: played like 15 minutes against Collingwood.

Carr and Riddle playing Reserves.

Thanks - good see Ras playing. Needs the game time. Thought he did ok for the limited time on last night.

 

[stax on the mull]

That's the best team they have played this season by a mile.

I suppose it is but 8 changes makes it hard to play with any system.

 

[Dockeroo]

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Ras playing WAFL makes sense: played like 15 minutes against Collingwood.

Carr and Riddle playing Reserves.

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

 

[BettercallSaul]

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

I think the club believes he is a late physical developer like his father. Still very skinny. No idea if he will make it but think they will be patient with him… until they’re not of course.

 

[apuchar]

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Ras playing WAFL makes sense: played like 15 minutes against Collingwood.

Carr and Riddle playing Reserves.

Yeah. I hoped that would happen with Raz. Better than running laps. Not sure Coulten has done anything in a month.

 

[Superkoops]

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

You do realise he was selected at pick 63. That is getting very deep into that deep draft. I did like the Eagles selection of Hamish Davis at pick 65 but it is very late in the draft.

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

Yeah there was enough there attributes-wise to make one have the optimistic view that you'll see throughout the Jaren Carr thread. Athletic, tall, parallels to his father in terms of late bloomer, the fact Brisbane were interested in the MSD. But you look at the facts you just laid out and it looks like you're hoping for him to be quite an extreme exception.

It's the cost that isn't mentioned enough: the list spot and the development opportunity. Everyone wants to talk about wasted salary and wasted picks when bemoaning bad list decisions and those are worth mentioning. But eg right now we have 4 NGAs in the WA squad (not including Robinson) and a 5th who's an "unlucky miss". And of them, Whan is the one that is leaps and bounds ahead as a prospect.

Now they may well open enough Cat B slots to make this a non-issue for the rest. But right now, you look at it and wonder whether the loyalty to the NGAs and unwillingness to have a Lawson Humphries, egg on face scenario stops you from what we'd probably agree is the "optimal" list build (high talent 18 year olds + mature agers with AFL attributes that are killing it at the lower leagues).

 

[freo_leo29]

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

The club won't be surprised, he was a reserves player for Souths too

Humphries is the exception to the rule, we definitely expect Carr to be a slower burn

 

[FreoRicci]

I know it’s early days.
However bringing in Jaren Carr, a 21yo mature aged player in one of the deepest national drafts in years, that can’t crack the peel first team halfway though the season….

If you are not a key position player and 21 years old, it’s not a great sign of you aren’t at the very least a walk up regular at peel first team.

He was a fantastic trainer during pre season. The wing spot is open, still believe NOD will come into the midfield

 

[stax on the mull]

Would think Carr's omission is to do with the numbers mostly and the sliding scale of how many Fremantle listed players can play in the WAFL senior team at Peel. There's 13 available this week but they can only play 11. With 14 available they can play 12 in the league side.

 

[Dockeroo]

Yeah I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of Carr so far but if you compare him to someone like Lachie Schultz also drafted age 20, or Luke Ryan drafted age 20 with picks in the similar range of 55-65, they didn’t really ever spend much time in the peel reserves. Even Frederick was drafted as an u19 player at pick 63 and played in the first team pretty quickly. I reckon Schultz played R1 in 2019 after the 2018 national draft for example.

Hopefully he’s a late developer and for sure the 13 player limit at peel is a factor too.

I just think more broadly - if you are 21 years old and a winger/outside mid, you need to be making inroads into the AFL team early in your second year or else the chances of making it long term are limited. That’s not me being harsh - that’s just a fact.

I don’t actually mind the strategy of taking mature age players in the ND, Geelong have done it so well and even we have at times too. Clearly walls thought he was the best choice (I assume). So hopefully he develops quickly and lights it up at a few peel games later this season.

 

[FreoRicci]

Yeah I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of Carr so far but if you compare him to someone like Lachie Schultz also drafted age 20, or Luke Ryan drafted age 20 with picks in the similar range of 55-65, they didn’t really ever spend much time in the peel reserves. Even Frederick was drafted as an u19 player at pick 63 and played in the first team pretty quickly. I reckon Schultz played R1 in 2019 after the 2018 national draft for example.

Hopefully he’s a late developer and for sure the 13 player limit at peel is a factor too.

I just think more broadly - if you are 21 years old and a winger/outside mid, you need to be making inroads into the AFL team early in your second year or else the chances of making it long term are limited. That’s not me being harsh - that’s just a fact.

I don’t actually mind the strategy of taking mature age players in the ND, Geelong have done it so well and even we have at times too. Clearly walls thought he was the best choice (I assume). So hopefully he develops quickly and lights it up at a few peel games later this season.

It’s harder for mid/winger with so many ahead of the queue.

 

[FreoRicci]

That’s the goal of the week by Narkle. He’s playing very solid

 

[stax on the mull]

Narkle showed a bit of zip there. From his earlier involvement I was getting the impression that he didn't have that.

The umpire on that West Perth boundary goal was standing the mark alongside Narkle, so when the WP player played on there couldn't be any pressure on the kick.

 

[FreoRicci]

Narkle has done his knee. Jesus.

 

[Odysseygaming2]

Narkle has done his knee. Jesus.

Doesn't look good

 

[Mainy66]

Narkle has done his knee. Jesus.

Maybe not.

 

[FreoRicci]

Maybe not.

Landed awkwardly. Hopefully only lateral ligaments

 

[freo_leo29]

lovely Noddy

 

[freo_leo29]

Peel dominating

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

First time the intent has looked for Peel all year.

 

[Harry Reems]

Narkel and Tregenza both done for the day. Peel down two players now.

 

[freo_leo29]

First time the intent has looked for Peel all year.

significantly better wafl payers out there today

 

[stax on the mull]

Peel needed that break in the scoreline with that flurry of goals towards the end of that quarter being down 2 players. Bit of a breeze to their end - seemed up it picked up in that quarter - not a huge advantage but one of the West Perth kicks down the wing really held up in the air.

Brodie, Erasmus and O'Driscoll are dominating the contests and clearances and Reidy is hitting the taps to advantage.

 

[Mainy66]

Banfield up and about too.