Pitbull attacks grown man

[mantis]

OK I thought I would start a thread about it, before the anti Pitbull brigade.

A man in WA was attacked by a pitbull, when he went to talk to a sleeping woman who was looking after it, while the owner is in jail.

The woman said the dog had never shown any aggression & was probably just protecting her from a man while she was asleep, the dog has since been put down.

Firstly, if anyone comes near my house at night, good luck, my dog won't bite you as he has been trained to like people, but he sure as hell won't let anyone near me while I am asleep.

Secondly, the owner is in jail, guess how the dog has been brought up, amazing that it never showed aggression before, these are the people that shouldn't own Pitbulls, because they want them to be a macho status symbol, yet if Pitbulls are brought up in a loving, non aggro environment, they are no more vicious than a poodle.

 

[evade28]

Originally posted by mantis

Secondly, the owner is in jail, guess how the dog has been brought up, amazing that it never showed aggression before, these are the people that shouldn't own Pitbulls, because they want them to be a macho status symbol, yet if Pitbulls are brought up in a loving, non aggro environment, they are no more vicious than a poodle.

i partly agree with that, however they still have it in their nature to be aggresive(fight, whatever), not so much with people as OTHER ANIMALS, and the thing is when they are aggressive towards people they do A LOT of damage.

its like working dogs, no matter how theyre bought up they still have it in them to HERD, notice how they nip ankles a lot...

 

[Dry Rot]

1. What exactly is a pitbull?

2. Why do they get such bad press?

3. Think poor dog on your facts got a bum deal.

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by evade28
i partly agree with that, however they still have it in their nature to be aggresive(fight, whatever), not so much with people as OTHER ANIMALS, and the thing is when they are aggressive towards people they do A LOT of damage.

its like working dogs, no matter how theyre bought up they still have it in them to HERD, notice how they nip ankles a lot...

Disagree, my dog was breed & brought up with love & socialized from day one, he doesn't have a nasty bone in his body, he has been attacked 3 times by other dogs & been bitten by them, but he has bever bitten them back, he just throws them to the ground & holds them down, never ever bites.

Unfortunately, most people that want Pitbulls want them for the wrong reasons, they are a very loving devoted dog.

 

[evade28]

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Originally posted by mantis
Disagree, my dog was breed & brought up with love & socialized from day one, he doesn't have a nasty bone in his body, he has been attacked 3 times by other dogs & been bitten by them, but he has bever bitten them back, he just throws them to the ground & holds them down, never ever bites.

Unfortunately, most people that want Pitbulls want them for the wrong reasons, they are a very loving devoted dog.

yer some of them are ok, like yours seems to be ok.
but how do u explain pitbulls like yours who suddenly bite for no reason? u have to admit they are more unpredictable then most breeds.
and the fact that they have lock jaw makes them a lot more dangerous.

also yes i agree a lot of t0ssers get them to be heros, cos u kno, its just SO impressive, NOT.

 

[mantis]

Originally posted by Dry Rot
1. What exactly is a pitbull?

2. Why do they get such bad press?

3. Think poor dog on your facts got a bum deal.

1. Originally they were breed by crossing American Staffordshire bull terriers, with Rhodesian ridgebacks.

2. They get bad press, because anytime they attack a person or another animal the papers report it, because it sells papers, "Pitbull attack", while there are hundreds of attacks by other dogs, but they aren't newsworthy.

3. I totally agree with you, seems a bit suss to me that the guy went to talk to a sleeping woman, couldn't have had something else on his mind, which the dog picked up on.

Well there are very few pure Pitbulls in Australia, most are crosses, like mine he is Neo Bull Mastiff X Pitbull, his Mum was a Pitbull who we breed with the Mastiff, because he was a lovely natured dog & wanted to be sure the pups would be non aggressive.

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by evade28
yer some of them are ok, like yours seems to be ok.
but how do u explain pitbulls like yours who suddenly bite for no reason? u have to admit they are more unpredictable then most breeds.
and the fact that they have lock jaw makes them a lot more dangerous.

also yes i agree a lot of t0ssers get them to be heros, cos u kno, its just SO impressive, NOT.

Most don't bite for no reason, they are only unpredictable if they are brought up by the wrong owners, like any dogs.

The lock jaw is a fallacy, Kenny has had all 3 dogs who attacked him by the throat & as soon as I told him to let go he did, Bull Terriers are the ones that have lock jaw & unless a Pitbull has Bull Terrier in his breeding, he won't have lock jaw.

We made sure our 10 pups went to good homes, people that had other dogs & weren't ferals wanting a status symbol.

 

[evade28]

Originally posted by mantis
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2. They get bad press, because anytime they attack a person or another animal the papers report it, because it sells papers, "Pitbull attack", while there are hundreds of attacks by other dogs, but they aren't newsworthy.

arent newsworthy, and y do u think that is? lol maybe bcos they arent SAVAGED.

all dogs are capable of biting but some do more damage than others (ie pitbulls!)

and if someone is savaged by a dog we DO hear about it, whether its a pitbull or not, tho overall they are the dog we hear about most, prolly cos they savage people more frequently than other breeds!

Originally posted by mantis
3. I totally agree with you, seems a bit suss to me that the guy went to talk to a sleeping woman, couldn't have had something else on his mind, which the dog picked up on.

havent u ever woken someone up to speak to them?

and y does that give the dog the right to attack?

 

[Dry Rot]

Originally posted by mantis

3. I totally agree with you, seems a bit suss to me that the guy went to talk to a sleeping woman, couldn't have had something else on his mind, which the dog picked up on.

Quite

 

[evade28]

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Originally posted by mantis
Most don't bite for no reason, they are only unpredictable if they are brought up by the wrong owners, like any dogs.

The lock jaw is a fallacy, Kenny has had all 3 dogs who attacked him by the throat & as soon as I told him to let go he did, Bull Terriers are the ones that have lock jaw & unless a Pitbull has Bull Terrier in his breeding, he won't have lock jaw.

We made sure our 10 pups went to good homes, people that had other dogs & weren't ferals wanting a status symbol.

yer well u had him under control, but if he didnt want to let go i doubt u would have been able to make him do so.

and like u said most pitbulls in australia are cross breeds, so im tipping a lot of them have bull terrier in them!

lol made sure they werent ferals, haha, i bet there were quite a lot of ferals inquiring. but good to see ur being a responsible dog owner anyway

 

[evade28]

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Originally posted by mantis
Most don't bite for no reason, they are only unpredictable if they are brought up by the wrong owners, like any dogs.

by the way im well aware of this, its just that if they arent bought up properly the damage they can do is massive, and they are usually bought up wrong due to hero status u mentioned earlier!

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by evade28
yer well u had him under control, but if he didnt want to let go i doubt u would have been able to make him do so.

and like u said most pitbulls in australia are cross breeds, so im tipping a lot of them have bull terrier in them!

lol made sure they werent ferals, haha, i bet there were quite a lot of ferals inquiring. but good to see ur being a responsible dog owner anyway

1. Yes I would, because my dog knows I am the boss & what I say goes.

2. Actually not many have Bull Terrier in them, unfortuantely most are breeding them with Rottweillers & Dobernams, to enhance the aggresiveness, but then I think you can't blame the aggro on the Pitbull breed alone.

3. You wouldn't believe the ferals we had wanting the pups, some were willing to pay a $1,000 even though we were only asking $300, guess they thought we would be happy with the money & not care about where our pups were going, WRONG, I would have given them away to good homes, if I thought they would be better looked after.

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by evade28
by the way im well aware of this, its just that if they arent bought up properly the damage they can do is massive, and they are usually bought up wrong due to hero status u mentioned earlier!

I know, just I get really upset that people think my dog should be put down, just because of his breeding, when I know he causes no threat to anything living. I think it is unfair that people despise me because I own a dog, who is the most loving, gentle, loyal dog out, just because of his breed.

 

[evade28]

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Originally posted by mantis
1. Yes I would, because my dog knows I am the boss & what I say goes.

2. Actually not many have Bull Terrier in them, unfortuantely most are breeding them with Rottweillers & Dobernams, to enhance the aggresiveness, but then I think you can't blame the aggro on the Pitbull breed alone.

3. You wouldn't believe the ferals we had wanting the pups, some were willing to pay a $1,000 even though we were only asking $300, guess they thought we would be happy with the money & not care about where our pups were going, WRONG, I would have given them away to good homes, if I thought they would be better looked after.

1 ok
2 i have always had dobies and like ur kenny all of mine have been bought up properly so theyre not aggressive, tho i dont kno, but one of them had something wrong with it, like one day it suddenly just BIT someone, for no reason(no warning and it had never happened b4)??? not like savaged, but like a fear bite or something, it was quite strange, needless to say it was immediately marched off to the vet to get the green needle. see what i mean about u can bring them up properly but sometimes it just doesnt work. anyway our current dobie is nearly 12 and still going pretty well!
3 yes i could just imagine the ferals queing up like AS IF u would b selling one to them!

Originally posted by mantis
I know, just I get really upset that people think my dog should be put down, just because of his breeding, when I know he causes no threat to anything living. I think it is unfair that people despise me because I own a dog, who is the most loving, gentle, loyal dog out, just because of his breed.

yes ive had ppl telling me that they will sue me for all ive got if my dog bites them and this is wen it is on MY property BEHIND A FENCE! seriously, some ppl...

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by evade28
yes ive had ppl telling me that they will sue me for all ive got if my dog bites them and this is wen it is on MY property BEHIND A FENCE! seriously, some ppl...

Yes heck them I say, though as I said, Kenny would never hurt anyone, unless they tried to hurt me in my house, then I think he may actually attack, damn I hope he would, I sleep with my back door open so he can go to the toilies, so I hope he will protect me.

 

[Docker_Brat]

These animals are vicious killers and have no place in society. The dog that was (thankfully) put down was supposedly docile but attacked anyway, this proves that they have an unpredicatable nature.

Ownership of these dogs should be treated the same way as ownership of automatic weapons, they can be just as deadly and should be illegal. Every pitbull should be put down to eradicate this dangerous breed.

 

[The Hitman]

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Originally posted by mantis
1. Yes I would, because my dog knows I am the boss & what I say goes.

Very, very naive.

The Hitman

 

[Hollypig]

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Originally posted by mantis

We made sure our 10 pups went to good homes, people that had other dogs & weren't ferals wanting a status symbol. [/B]

WTF are you breeding these things for, chucking in bullies with mastiffs & cross breeding all over the shop.
Then you`ve got the audacity to sell these future child munchers to people you deem as non feral, registered breeder are you?
The only ones who should have these things are registered breeders who use these breeds for show, cause that`s all their good for.
My son was attacked by a cross bull terrier, luckily I was there next to my work truck, I chucked my son onto the back, grabbed the jimmy bar, & put an end to the situation with two blows, the owner was still running away when I finished, luckily for me because he was next.
Your irresponsible actions in selling these things off is incomprehensible, honestly, just think about it, your selling highly unstable animals to the general public, where do you get off thinking that your selling to 'good homes'. As soon as the thing grows up, it`s dumped, or stolen, & ends up with the type of looney your on about or ends up as a guard dog.
Keep your dog by all means, but why are you breeding from it?
ego? wanna give your dog a root ? whats the point ?

 

[Docker_Brat]

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Originally posted by Hollypig
grabbed the jimmy bar, & put an end to the situation with two blows, the owner was still running away when I finished, luckily for me because he was next.

I like it a lot.

 

[sabre_ac]

Mantis your dog may very well be the exception but everyone I know that owns a Pit bull is always weary of there dog around small children and other dogs.
There a breed that has an instinct to attack other dogs, somthing that canoot be "loved" or cared out of them.

 

[chimphawk28]

There are so many irresponsible dog owners out there..not just pitbulls..all kinds of dogs. If your not a responsible person and arent willing to take necessary precautions to begin with, you shouldn't even own a dog. Unfortunately there are just too many idiots out there.

 

[knuckles]

Originally posted by Docker_Brat
These animals are vicious killers and have no place in society. The dog that was (thankfully) put down was supposedly docile but attacked anyway, this proves that they have an unpredicatable nature.

Ownership of these dogs should be treated the same way as ownership of automatic weapons, they can be just as deadly and should be illegal. Every pitbull should be put down to eradicate this dangerous breed.

Correct. They are banned in a number of countries for a reason. No dog leaves more damage. They are either quiet or they kill, with no in-between. No surprise their owners regularly look like they belong in a kennel also.

 

[M29]

Some of the most vicious dogs I've seen haven't been pitbulls.

That said, they are an ugly breed of dog anyway and should be extinct.

sabre_ac, I don't trust any dog, whether it's a pitbull or a poodle around children.

 

[mantis]

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Originally posted by Hollypig
WTF are you breeding these things for, chucking in bullies with mastiffs & cross breeding all over the shop.
Then you`ve got the audacity to sell these future child munchers to people you deem as non feral, registered breeder are you?
The only ones who should have these things are registered breeders who use these breeds for show, cause that`s all their good for.
My son was attacked by a cross bull terrier, luckily I was there next to my work truck, I chucked my son onto the back, grabbed the jimmy bar, & put an end to the situation with two blows, the owner was still running away when I finished, luckily for me because he was next.
Your irresponsible actions in selling these things off is incomprehensible, honestly, just think about it, your selling highly unstable animals to the general public, where do you get off thinking that your selling to 'good homes'. As soon as the thing grows up, it`s dumped, or stolen, & ends up with the type of looney your on about or ends up as a guard dog.
Keep your dog by all means, but why are you breeding from it?
ego? wanna give your dog a root ? whats the point ?

You are wrong in every comment you have made.

1. Firstly Bullies are not Pitbulls, Bullies have lock jaw Pitties don't, plus not breeding all over the shop, we put my dogs Mum to The Mastiff, because we had 3 of our friends who wanted her pups, because she was so lovely natured & the Mastifff, was a big gentle oaf, usually they only have 5 or 6 pups a litter, it was a shock when she had 11 pups.

2. They are not future child munchers, if bred & brought up well, seems the media has worked well on you, plus they aren't a recognized breed here, so there aren't any registered breeders, but I guess you knew that, seeing as you so knowledgeable about the breed.

3. A Bull terrier cross has no connection with a Pitbull, so why aren't Bull Terriers getting the same bad press., sorry your son got injured, but it wasn't a Pitbulls fault. By the way the only dog I have ever been attacked by for no reason was a Labrador, so I think they are unstable & should all die.

4. Our dogs weren't unstable & we know where all the dogs were sold & stay in constant contact with the owners, we told the owners if they ever didn't want them anymore, to ring us & we would take them off their hands, so far after 4 & a half years, all those dogs are still with the original owners & very happy well adjusted dogs.

5. My dog is neutered because I didn't want to breed from him, plus I was worried he might get stolen to use for breeding fighting dogs.

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Attacking grown men again Mantis?? You really shouldn't do that.