Player Trade

[Mano16]

Agree 100% never will be in the J.Selwood class but can be above the average type in time,dramatically over rated on this forum.[/quote

Hartlett could be just as good as J. Selwood, but not sure Boak can reach that level.

 

[240volt]

Agree 100% never will be in the J.Selwood class but can be above the average type in time,dramatically over rated on this forum.[/quote

Hartlett could be just as good as J. Selwood, but not sure Boak can reach that level.

Hartlett @Grey are our 2 best prospects

 

[bomberclifford]

Mate i would gladly offer them chaps and our 1st pick for roughy...I would do it with a smile on my face and as quickly as possible before they realise ...

our board overestimates our players way too much...starting with boak....

I think we need to realise the difference between potential and actually being a star..

Value is a funny thing. It's not absolute. In a true market sense, the worth of something is determined by the buyer, not the seller.

My point was more that we would be foolish to trade Chaplin, unless we can get someone of the calibre of Roughhead who would fill a current deficiency in our lineup. (although Salter is looking like a nice option)

It has nothing to do with overestimating Chaplin. It isn't even saying that Chaplin is equal to Roughead, (or vice verse for that matter). It's about identifying a key need and IMO, unless we get that need met, we are better off holding on to a player like Chaplin.

 

[*PAF]

Hartlett @Grey are our 2 best prospects

Hartlett has 5 star potential at this stage, our first player to have that since Tredrea. JB and Chad were 4 star IMO.

The interesting one in the SANFL is Stewart. Sometimes players are just as good at AFL as in the SANFL other times they dominate at SANFL level but cannot reproduce the form in the AFL.
It's possible to dominate in the SANFL because of one attribute, be it fitness, body size or whatever. Stewart seems to do well in the SANFL because of the mix of his talents rather than just one or two traits and thus may be just as good at AFL level.
I'd love to see him tried out for 5 or 6 games in a row, preferably with a crumber near him as he does seem to provide contests.

 

[travalenko]

I think all should be kept except for Kane Cornes. I absolutely hate Kane Cornes, by far the most over-rated player in the AFL. Sure, he racks up alot of posessions, but how much of that is contested ball? Surely a team like Melbourne should pick him up, hes an experienced player and they need another experienced midfielder now that McDonald has retired. Could be a trade for no.2 pick seeing as the Demons have 1st pick anyway?

 

[travalenko]

Not only Paul Stewart, Nick Lower dominates for Norwood week in week out but cant produce in the AFL.

 

[finbarr]

I think all should be kept except for Kane Cornes. I absolutely hate Kane Cornes, by far the most over-rated player in the AFL. Sure, he racks up alot of posessions, but how much of that is contested ball? Surely a team like Melbourne should pick him up, hes an experienced player and they need another experienced midfielder now that McDonald has retired. Could be a trade for no.2 pick seeing as the Demons have 1st pick anyway?

It's one thing to not rate Kane Cornes the footballer, but isn't this a little strong? Do you know him personally?

 

[travalenko]

Haha, sorry, I meant as a footballer

 

[travalenko]

Im sure he's a nice guy

 

[Schulzenfest]

So you don't rate him as a footballer but you think Melbourne will give up pick 2 for him? Lolwut?

 

[travalenko]

Yeah I do, cos he is over-rated and they will pick him up. They could seriously do with a bit of experience, I just dont want him at Port

 

[Janus]

The only 'big' name player I can see us getting rid of is Ebert. Heard a rumour today (and also saw this on the draft and trading board, so it might have legs) that he is off to West Coast.

The individuals aren't bad - it's the team that's the problem. And trading ain't gonna fix that.

 

[elsler]

so what sort of trade was thrown around ??

 

[Del80659]

keep roughhead the heck away, we have Nick Salter, that man is ferocious and will play in flags as our CHF

 

[Natman]

keep roughhead the heck away, we have Nick Salter, that man is ferocious and will play in flags as our CHF

The tag of "ferocious" is the last that I would apply to Salter - in fact it is his lack of ferociousness that is his major weakness. He appears to be too lacksadasical in his approach, but all of his other assets are good enough to be a consistent AFL player.

 

[brogan2motlop]

Value is a funny thing. It's not absolute. In a true market sense, the worth of something is determined by the buyer, not the seller.

My point was more that we would be foolish to trade Chaplin, unless we can get someone of the calibre of Roughhead who would fill a current deficiency in our lineup. (although Salter is looking like a nice option)

It has nothing to do with overestimating Chaplin. It isn't even saying that Chaplin is equal to Roughead, (or vice verse for that matter). It's about identifying a key need and IMO, unless we get that need met, we are better off holding on to a player like Chaplin.

I understand your point....but roughhead has kicked 70 goals in a season with a man like buddy in the forward line....I dont think identifying a key need comes into it....

if they said I will swap you roughy for chaps I would be taking the next plane to Box hill with Papers in hand and 50 pens just to make sure theere is no problems with signing the dotted line......

 

[brogan2motlop]

The only 'big' name player I can see us getting rid of is Ebert. Heard a rumour today (and also saw this on the draft and trading board, so it might have legs) that he is off to West Coast.

The individuals aren't bad - it's the team that's the problem. And trading ain't gonna fix that.

Ebert for Staker I would be happy

even Seaby

 

[Schulzenfest]

Ebert for Staker I would be happy

Why? Staker is a poor man's Ebert.

 

[brogan2motlop]

Why? Staker is a poor man's Ebert.

nope he can play the WCE just couldnt get the best out of him. ....and I think he would fit in very well in our forward line....plus he can play in the middle...

But in all seriousness we should be looking to get shannon Hurn...that guy is a gun...

 

[Schulzenfest]

nope he can play the WCE just couldnt get the best out of him

And what exactly makes you think that Choco, with his renowned man-managing skills which have propelled the likes of Salopek, Pearce, Chaplin and Pettigrew into superstardom, will be able to get the best out of him? Staker is inconsistent and lazy, having him at Port would be part of the problem, not part of the solution. If we don't want Ebert I'd rather flat-out delist him than have Staker at the Power.

But in all seriousness we should be looking to get shannon Hurn...that guy is a gun...

There I agree with you. Hurn is exactly what our backline needs, he'd be everything that P. Burgoyne, Salopek, Hartlett and Krakouer all haven't managed to be. Problem is the Eagles won't let him go unless we give them a very, very good offer i.e. pick 8 and a quality player.

 

[brogan2motlop]

I would be willing to give them pick 8 and kraks for Hurn....he is worth it...

and I think for all chocco's faults he is one of the better coaches for getting the best out of traded players....I just really think Staker is worth the risk...He has very good athletic ability and is a very good size and very mobile for his size....Would be suited to the role ebert played.

I guess in SA you lads dont get to analyse some of the WA boys, I WANT Suma to be our next coach...but you guys wouldnt know much about him.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I would be willing to give them pick 8 and kraks for Hurn....he is worth it...

So would I. However I'm not sure if the Eagles would agree to that. IIRC Hurn was a pick 8 anyway, so basically they're trading the pick that they took Hurn with to start again with an unproven player, plus a lesser version of Hurn. Apparently Worsfold is chasing Shaun Burgoyne, maybe Shaun Burgoyne for Hurn? Burgoyne's obviously the better player right now, but he's rumoured to be a big part of the supposed player disunity and Shannon's 5 years younger, plus unlike Burgoyne he fills a glaring need for us. Plus it releases Salopek, Krakouer and Hartlett into the midfield, because Hurn's disposal is more than good enough to ensure we don't need another 'quarterback'.

 

[brogan2motlop]

So would I. However I'm not sure if the Eagles would agree to that. IIRC Hurn was a pick 8 anyway, so basically they're trading the pick that they took Hurn with to start again with an unproven player, plus a lesser version of Hurn. Apparently Worsfold is chasing Shaun Burgoyne, maybe Shaun Burgoyne for Hurn? Burgoyne's obviously the better player right now, but he's rumoured to be a big part of the supposed player disunity and Shannon's 5 years younger, plus unlike Burgoyne he fills a glaring need for us. Plus it releases Salopek, Krakouer and Hartlett into the midfield, because Hurn's disposal is more than good enough to ensure we don't need another 'quarterback'.

Shaun and a 3rd/4th rounder

for hurn and seaby....??

but I wouldnt really hate to see Shaun go...but if he wants to leave I wont stop him.

 

[FishingRick04]

I would be willing to give them pick 8 and kraks for Hurn....he is worth it...

and I think for all chocco's faults he is one of the better coaches for getting the best out of traded players....I just really think Staker is worth the risk...He has very good athletic ability and is a very good size and very mobile for his size....Would be suited to the role ebert played.

I guess in SA you lads dont get to analyse some of the WA boys, I WANT Suma to be our next coach...but you guys wouldnt know much about him.

They have pick 6?

We could find a deal like Ebert and Burgoyne plus pick 8 for Pick 6 and Hurn + Seaby Perhaps.

If we lost Burgoyne we would need to target another gun midfielder though, someone like Griffen who has struggled this year probably due his unfortunate family reasons. Perhaps a Pearce and a pick 2nd or 3rd round for Griffen perhaps?

So we would lose Ebert, Shaun and Pearce our first and 2nd round pick for Hurn, Seaby and Griffen and pick 6.

Hurn into the back lines allows krak to replace Pearce on the wing, Griffen in the guts for Shaun and Ebo to prove us wrong that he can play where we are covered for forward options.

 

[brogan2motlop]

They have pick 6?

We could find a deal like Ebert and Burgoyne plus pick 8 for Pick 6 and Hurn + Seaby Perhaps.

If we lost Burgoyne we would need to target another gun midfielder though, someone like Griffen who has struggled this year probably due his unfortunate family reasons. Perhaps a Pearce and a pick 2nd or 3rd round for Griffen perhaps?

So we would lose Ebert, Shaun and Pearce our first and 2nd round pick for Hurn, Seaby and Griffen and pick 6.

Hurn into the back lines allows krak to replace Pearce on the wing, Griffen in the guts for Shaun and Ebo to prove us wrong that he can play where we are covered for forward options.

Mate where is this chat about Shaun to WCE eagles coming from??

but yes I like your thinking