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Daz

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Jan 9, 2008
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Just going through this weeks TOG stats these were the ones that I found interesting.

L.Ball - 70% (29 touches)
N. Malceski - 65%
C. Bird - 61%
R.Palmer - 71%
G. Ibbotson - 87%
B. Johnson - 77% (injured)
J. Morton - 87%
J. Corey - 86%
G. Ablett - 87%
J. Bartel - 86% (hopeully means he is not carrying an injury)
C.Judd - 80% (less than the other blues mids)
B. Wilkes - 87%
W. Schoefield - 59%
S. Wellingham - 81%
D. Swan - 77%
B. Vince - 58%
D. Myers - 60% (82 points)

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Does that mean Ablett and Corey are too. I think is just means there midfield is so strong they can afford to rest there superstars more than other clubs. How good is Dane Swan to play 77% and score the way he does. Wish i had him.

The point is that they are normal midfield numbers. They aren't really being rested. It's a good thing to see though because I was worried about Bartel.
 
Yeah i didn't read right before sorry mate lol. Thats why i deleted that part haha.
 

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Just going through this weeks TOG stats these were the ones that I found interesting.

L.Ball - 70% (29 touches)
N. Malceski - 65%
C. Bird - 61%
R.Palmer - 71%
G. Ibbotson - 87%
B. Johnson - 77% (injured)
J. Morton - 87%
J. Corey - 86%
G. Ablett - 87%
J. Bartel - 86% (hopeully means he is not carrying an injury)
C.Judd - 80% (less than the other blues mids)
B. Wilkes - 87%
W. Schoefield - 59%
S. Wellingham - 81%
D. Swan - 77%
B. Vince - 58%
D. Myers - 60% (82 points)

If anyone who doesn't have access to these stats would like to know them just post the players names and I will get them for you. Hopefully others who have access to the stats can help out as well.

wat was scotty thompsons TOG?
 
you could argue the point that less game time means more impact whilst you're on the ground, so these stats are really quite useless.:rolleyes:

You could. Or you could not post garbage. What happens if the Collingwood midfield all gets injured and Swan has to step up and play on the ground more. People also like to know how much time their rookies are getting on the field. For example I was a little disappointed at the time Myers had on the field. Then I saw the bright side that if he is given more opportunity then he could score quite well. It is also interesting that Ibbotson is getting 16% more game time than Palmer.
 
You could. Or you could not post garbage. What happens if the Collingwood midfield all gets injured and Swan has to step up and play on the ground more. People also like to know how much time their rookies are getting on the field. For example I was a little disappointed at the time Myers had on the field. Then I saw the bright side that if he is given more opportunity then he could score quite well. It is also interesting that Ibbotson is getting 16% more game time than Palmer.

I think TOG can provide some useful insights into players being "managed" etc but needs to be taken in the context of their normal TOG. The Geelong numbers here are useful for those worried about Bartell as the load was shared evenly amongst the big 3 in a thumping of Carlton. Any injury worries and he would have been on the bench for sure.

Mainly useful for trends as opposed to normal averages. Swan has always been a burst player, plays best that way and is the most rotated player at the Pies. It's interesting that when his TOG increased by 11 mins per match (86 to 97 mins) from 2006 to 2007 his scoring average remained unchanged.
 
You could. Or you could not post garbage. What happens if the Collingwood midfield all gets injured and Swan has to step up and play on the ground more. People also like to know how much time their rookies are getting on the field. For example I was a little disappointed at the time Myers had on the field. Then I saw the bright side that if he is given more opportunity then he could score quite well. It is also interesting that Ibbotson is getting 16% more game time than Palmer.[/quote]

They each play a competely different role.
 
I think TOG can provide some useful insights into players being "managed" etc but needs to be taken in the context of their normal TOG. The Geelong numbers here are useful for those worried about Bartell as the load was shared evenly amongst the big 3 in a thumping of Carlton. Any injury worries and he would have been on the bench for sure.

Mainly useful for trends as opposed to normal averages. Swan has always been a burst player, plays best that way and is the most rotated player at the Pies. It's interesting that when his TOG increased by 11 mins per match (86 to 97 mins) from 2006 to 2007 his scoring average remained unchanged.
I went up by 4 points.
 

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You could. Or you could not post garbage. What happens if the Collingwood midfield all gets injured and Swan has to step up and play on the ground more. People also like to know how much time their rookies are getting on the field. For example I was a little disappointed at the time Myers had on the field. Then I saw the bright side that if he is given more opportunity then he could score quite well. It is also interesting that Ibbotson is getting 16% more game time than Palmer.

Ibbotson's TOG was 16% greater than Palmer's this round only, and this has been the greatest differential between the two this season.

Over the season, Palmer's nine games have averaged 76.4% TOG, whereas Ibbo has averaged 82.3% TOG across his seven games - a differential closer to 6% than 16%.

Bold.
 
Ibbotson's TOG was 16% greater than Palmer's this round only, and this has been the greatest differential between the two this season.

Over the season, Palmer's nine games have averaged 76.4% TOG, whereas Ibbo has averaged 82.3% TOG across his seven games - a differential closer to 6% than 16%.

Bold.


Harvey has made it clear that both players will be "managed" through the back half of the season so expect less TOG, possibly even rested for a week or 2. Ibbo is an '05 draft pick so can probably handle the workload a bit more.
 
Ibbotson's TOG was 16% greater than Palmer's this round only, and this has been the greatest differential between the two this season.

Over the season, Palmer's nine games have averaged 76.4% TOG, whereas Ibbo has averaged 82.3% TOG across his seven games - a differential closer to 6% than 16%.

Bold.

Fair enough, still an interesting stat.
 
Originally Posted by 54Dogs
I think TOG can provide some useful insights into players being "managed" etc but needs to be taken in the context of their normal TOG. The Geelong numbers here are useful for those worried about Bartell as the load was shared evenly amongst the big 3 in a thumping of Carlton. Any injury worries and he would have been on the bench for sure.

Mainly useful for trends as opposed to normal averages. Swan has always been a burst player, plays best that way and is the most rotated player at the Pies. It's interesting that when his TOG increased by 11 mins per match (86 to 97 mins) from 2006 to 2007 his scoring average remained unchanged.


I went up by 4 points.

Talk me through that Jim. I have an AFL prospectus here telling me that he has averaged 102 for the last 2 seasons. Did I get a misprint?
 

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