Please Dont Let Melbourne Become A 'Backwater' Like Adelaide

[maccas_no1]

VICTORIAN Premier John Brumby has warned Melburnians they risk living in a "backwater" like Adelaide if Victoria is not allowed to push ahead with a plan to deepen a channel in Port Phillip Bay.

Mr Brumby said today the public should understand how vital the $1 billion dredging project was.

"This is very important to Melbourne, it's very important to Victoria," he said.

"If you want Melbourne to be a backwater, if you want Melbourne eventually to be an Adelaide - as someone described it the other day - well, don't do this project, and Melbourne will just die a slow death."

His comments came after the head of shipping company ANL said the controversial $1 billion dredging plan should not include the mouth of the Yarra River.

ANL chief executive Chris Lines told The Age newspaper that toxic sediment in the Yarra should not be dredged, and called on the Victorian Government to extend Webb Dock, just east of the river mouth.

Mr Brumby dismissed the call as simplistic, and said the existing dredging plan was the right one.



Dont worry I cant see that ever happening

 

[tribey]

There's no doubt Adelaide has regressed as a whole since the vibrance of the pink safari-suited Don Dunstan era, no doubt at all, but still, Australia's derogatory view of Adelaide and the state as a whole is way overblown.

Still an enjoyable, highly liveable little city for its size, regardless of the fact you need to get a petition signed by the Premier, Governor, Lleyton Hewitt, Mark Ricciuto, Jack Cahill, KG & Cornesy, Bob Francis, Anne Wills, Graeme Goodings, Jonathan LaPaglia, Frenzel Rhomb and two-thirds of the populations of Firle, Noarlunga Downs, Elizabeth Vale and Stirling in order to build anything larger than a brick barbeque.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

I really hope that the dredging does stuff up their precious waterways.
When I lived there the Yarra was even a joke to the locals.
So tall buildings improve the environment, ha what a joke.
Melbourne is nothing but gridlock city.

 

[Jars458]

Adelaide is a backwater compared to Melbourne if we were realistic. However its our backwater and its a great place to live so who really cares.

Melbourne is backwater compared to Tokyo or maybe even Sydney. Everything is relative.

Agree with Dyetribe about the C grade celebrity culture in this town. Why certain people's opinions appear to carry weight is beyond me.

 

[noddy]

Adelaide is a backwater compared to Melbourne if we were realistic. However its our backwater and its a great place to live so who really cares.

Melbourne is backwater compared to Tokyo or maybe even Sydney. Everything is relative.

Agree with Dyetribe about the C grade celebrity culture in this town. Why certain people's opinions appear to carry weight is beyond me.

I agree with both you & him but media people in all states especially the big name radio jocks have far too much influence on public life & our bloody politicians seem to bend over backwood to accommodate them.

But i still find it easier to drive around Melbourne than Adelaide.

 

[Mad Dog]

Whenever you travel away from Adelaide - you notice how far behind the times we are - and the first question you ask on returning is "Where is everyone??"

I was born here - I like it here - but there's no question the gap is widening between us and the rest of Australia. We used to vie for 3rd spot with Perth and Brisbane behind Melbourne and Sydney......but we are well and truly entrenched in 5th spot these days.

We build one way freeways, spend 200mil on an underpass to move the traffic quicker to the next pedestrian crossing lights, allow the public transport system to decay, build half a tram service, take 10 years to build a hospital............all the time pouring taxpayers money into Bike races, car races, freak festivals, jungle music festivals etc etc.

Now I've got nothing against investing in bringing Adelaide to the world's attention and attracting tourist dollars to help small business - but it would be nice if we could find a balance between catering for and tailoring this city for visitors who come here for events..........and us poor saps that have to live here 365 days a year.

IMO Media Mike has become the international traveller's whore........and needs to focus more on developing this place for those that live here.

Backwater is a bit harsh.........but it's not that pretty either

 

[Leaping Lindner]

I agree with both you & him but media people in all states especially the big name radio jocks have far too much influence on public life & our bloody politicians seem to bend over backwood to accommodate them.

But i still find it easier to drive around Melbourne than Adelaide.

Are you insane???? I've lived here 13 years and still hate driving here. It's total madness.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

VICTORIAN Premier John Brumby has warned Melburnians they risk living in a "backwater" like Adelaide if Victoria is not allowed to push ahead with a plan to deepen a channel in Port Phillip Bay.

Mr Brumby said today the public should understand how vital the $1 billion dredging project was.

"This is very important to Melbourne, it's very important to Victoria," he said.

"If you want Melbourne to be a backwater, if you want Melbourne eventually to be an Adelaide - as someone described it the other day - well, don't do this project, and Melbourne will just die a slow death."

His comments came after the head of shipping company ANL said the controversial $1 billion dredging plan should not include the mouth of the Yarra River.

ANL chief executive Chris Lines told The Age newspaper that toxic sediment in the Yarra should not be dredged, and called on the Victorian Government to extend Webb Dock, just east of the river mouth.

Mr Brumby dismissed the call as simplistic, and said the existing dredging plan was the right one.



Dont worry I cant see that ever happening

Have they got the power put on in Sunbury yet??

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Whenever you travel away from Adelaide - you notice how far behind the times we are - and the first question you ask on returning is "Where is everyone??"

I was born here - I like it here - but there's no question the gap is widening between us and the rest of Australia. We used to vie for 3rd spot with Perth and Brisbane behind Melbourne and Sydney......but we are well and truly entrenched in 5th spot these days.

We build one way freeways, spend 200mil on an underpass to move the traffic quicker to the next pedestrian crossing lights, allow the public transport system to decay, build half a tram service, take 10 years to build a hospital............all the time pouring taxpayers money into Bike races, car races, freak festivals, jungle music festivals etc etc.

Now I've got nothing against investing in bringing Adelaide to the world's attention and attracting tourist dollars to help small business - but it would be nice if we could find a balance between catering for and tailoring this city for visitors who come here for events..........and us poor saps that have to live here 365 days a year.

IMO Media Mike has become the international traveller's whore........and needs to focus more on developing this place for those that live here.

Backwater is a bit harsh.........but it's not that pretty either

Dare I say it, but you can add this to the list:

What an airport. Packed as always with people coming into this great st8.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

I agree with both you & him but media people in all states especially the big name radio jocks have far too much influence on public life & our bloody politicians seem to bend over backwood to accommodate them.

But i still find it easier to drive around Melbourne than Adelaide.

I think you confused Ballarat as Melbourne Noddy?
Haven't driven in peak hour traffic?

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Whenever you travel away from Adelaide - you notice how far behind the times we are - and the first question you ask on returning is "Where is everyone??"

I was born here - I like it here - but there's no question the gap is widening between us and the rest of Australia. We used to vie for 3rd spot with Perth and Brisbane behind Melbourne and Sydney......but we are well and truly entrenched in 5th spot these days.

We build one way freeways, spend 200mil on an underpass to move the traffic quicker to the next pedestrian crossing lights, allow the public transport system to decay, build half a tram service, take 10 years to build a hospital............all the time pouring taxpayers money into Bike races, car races, freak festivals, jungle music festivals etc etc.

Now I've got nothing against investing in bringing Adelaide to the world's attention and attracting tourist dollars to help small business - but it would be nice if we could find a balance between catering for and tailoring this city for visitors who come here for events..........and us poor saps that have to live here 365 days a year.

IMO Media Mike has become the international traveller's whore........and needs to focus more on developing this place for those that live here.

Backwater is a bit harsh.........but it's not that pretty either

I take your point, however as stated on the old tied AAMI thread, previous governments have been hamstrung because of the state bank fiasco.

However we should now be spending more on infrastructure, like electrification of the railway.

And I'm also getting tied of Media Mike (George W. on Valium) now saying one thing about spending of infrastructure but not on big ticket items.

Underpasses don't cut it with me Mike.

 

[cammo84]

Mike Rann has done SFA for this state. It's almost as if he's thinking "maybe if I'm hard on the bikies it will take the attention off the fact that I do nothing else"

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Mike Rann has done SFA for this state. It's almost as if he's thinking "maybe if I'm hard on the bikies it will take the attention off the fact that I do nothing else"

And they're still there.

 

[KingsCrow]

Adelaide is a backwater. No doubting that. We don't have the population to ever be a big an powerful city.


Not to mention the {edit} this state produces. Its just tiring that such little things have to become full blown debates. That we have become such scabs about money that we hate to see a few million dollars spent on something (Trams, Grand Stand etc). And that because nothing has happened in this state for so long that hwen change does arrive it stirs emotion (ala Port Adelaide, Glenelg).

We have so much potential, but we are just throwing it all down the drain to accomodate the conservative and old time views of the downies of this state.

 

[maccas_no1]

Have they got the power put on in Sunbury yet??

Have power here Sunbury has more history than the whole state of SA put together very first Ashes Test was played here enough said

 

[maccas_no1]

Dare I say it, but you can add this to the list:

What an airport. Packed as always with people coming into this great st8.

Yes its in this area here where you begin your five mile hike to the aircraft front door

 

[Southerntakeover]

Is this anything other than a troll?

 

[KingsCrow]

Have power here Sunbury has more history than the whole state of SA put together very first Ashes Test was played here enough said

Where the **** is Sunbury?

 

[KingsCrow]

Yes its in this area here where you begin your five mile hike to the aircraft front door

Been to many a airport in my short life. Adelaides is the best. Easy, spacious & is just good.

 

[asdfasd]

Maybe 'backwater' does sound a bit harsh, but I tend to agree with him. It's bloody sad to see how backward Adelaide is. Is it that difficult to get someone in power who wants to make a difference and bring Adelaide out of the 1970's?

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Yes its in this area here where you begin your five mile hike to the aircraft front door

here we go again

 

[crowsup]

No wonder Victorians put our state down so much. They don't need to. Our own South Australians do a much better job..
If you are so unhappy about it, why don't you do something about it, or leave the state. As some of the expatriates above have done?

 

[Southerntakeover]

No wonder Victorians put our state down so much. They don't need to. Our own South Australians do a much better job..
If you are so unhappy about it, why don't you do something about it, or leave the state. As some of the expatriates above have done?

maccas isnt south australian. It shows.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

We build one way freeways, spend 200mil on an underpass to move the traffic quicker to the next pedestrian crossing lights, allow the public transport system to decay, build half a tram service, take 10 years to build a hospital............all the time pouring taxpayers money into Bike races, car races, freak festivals, jungle music festivals etc etc.

What - you didn't enjoy the Alternative Dance Mongolian Lesbian Troupe at last years Fringe Festival.

This post pretty much sums up Adelaide. I read a recent survey from a prominant businessman who suggested that Adelaide needs another 500,000 people to begin to reach its true potential. Surely he must be joking. He obviously has never driven around the CBD during peak hour. Imagine driving around Adelaides during peak hour with another 100,000 or so cars on the road, it would be a nightmare.

We really need a forward thinking govt who is willing to look at the bigger picture for this state to prosper.

 

[KingsCrow]

What - you didn't enjoy the Alternative Dance Mongolian Lesbian Troupe at last years Fringe Festival.

This post pretty much sums up Adelaide. I read a recent survey from a prominant businessman who suggested that Adelaide needs another 500,000 people to begin to reach its true potential. Surely he must be joking. He obviously has never driven around the CBD during peak hour. Imagine driving around Adelaides during peak hour with another 100,000 or so cars on the road, it would be a nightmare.

We really need a forward thinking govt who is willing to look at the bigger picture for this state to prosper.

This city does need alot more people.

The CBD is aiming to double its population in the next 10-15 years. Improved public transport will ease the traffic issues as well as infrastruture investment. Our city needs more density, no more suburbs.