Porps for Captain?

[robboaustralia]

I never really had an opinion when someone asked me who should replace Goodwin as captain. Just thinking about this yesterday and was thinking the Porps would be an ideal candidate. Adelaide born and bred (dont have to worry about him returning interstate), mature and experienced with quite a few good years ahead of him, a matchwinner, a crows favourite and respected by his team mates. If he can get back to his best and remain injury free he could be the man for the job. What is everyones thoughts?

 

[Rise_up_Stiffy]

Small forwards don't good captains make. Goes missing too often for mine. No idea what he is like off field.

 

[ruscy002]

Small forwards don't good captains make. Goes missing too often for mine. No idea what he is like off field.

To quote one James Brayshaw, "he's a very different unit the Porpoise!"

A couple of years ago I actually thought he'd make a decent captain, was so inspirational when playing through injury. Maybe I was just caught up in the euphoria of that Sydney game, because lately (even last year) I haven't seen any real leadership qualities in him at all.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Have you not watched this season at all or something?

 

[macca23]

No.

Just plain no.

 

[KUNG FU]

On-field inconsistent and probably would not like the added pressure. Off-field he's a very quiet and reserved bloke. Less than likely.

In this interview, he is asked directly, shies away from the possibility and strongly backs van Berlo as the option: http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_jaso...st-meeting-with-the-crows-playing-group_99379

 

[crowman86]

Cant appoint a player to be the big C after they got dropped less than 10 weeks ago!

 

[Godallblighty]

No.

Just plain no.

Why so categorical?

I had discounted him because folks said he was shy and introverted. But he looked to be taking it upon himself to encourage a few of the younger guys in the Brisbane game, and he always leads with his actions on field, particularly since he's been playing more in the midfield. I also listened to that interview on 5AA when he was asked about Bock. He handled himself pretty well. He's tough, skillful, and seems a clubman through and through.

What's not to like?

On-field inconsistent and probably would not like the added pressure. Off-field he's a very quiet and reserved bloke. Less than likely.

In this interview, he is asked directly, shies away from the possibility and strongly backs van Berlo as the option: http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_jaso...st-meeting-with-the-crows-playing-group_99379

Not wanting the top job is often the best qualification for getting it. Not sure the leader has to be the loudest. And the right character can grow into the role. Look at Paul Kelly at Sydney.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I'd rather him in the leadership group than many of the current collection.

Not captain though.

 

[KUNG FU]

Not wanting the top job is often the best qualification for getting it. Not sure the leader has to be the loudest. And the right character can grow into the role. Look at Paul Kelly at Sydney.

The direct answer is he is not popular within the playing group. The playing group will never vote for him as captain.

 

[dylan123]

Like all of the players that are in the possible captain material he has his own problem with injuries which has shown in his form this season. What I do like about Porps is he came through the rookie draft, was dropped and came back through it again. This shows his dedication to go back, work hard on his game and work his way up to where he is. He would know more then most that you cannot take your spot for granted and must do give it your all if you want to succeed at AFL level.

Just on giving it his all, just think back to 2008 when he was playing weekly with a shoulder that was popping out when he could have just as easily said he had had enough and go in for surgery. He stuck around, he played on after it popped out, this shows he's determination and how much he does not want to let the side down which is something I want from the leader of my club.

Maybe he does not have enough credentials to be the captain of the side but I think he would at least be worthy of a spot in the leadership group.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Sorry mate but no way.

 

[Godallblighty]

The direct answer is he is not popular within the playing group. The playing group will never vote for him as captain.

Oh. Okay. Why's that?

 

[Go You Crows]

It's amazing that our team even makes it onto the ground with all the supposed disharmony among the playing group, coaches and anyone else who walks within 1 metre of an AFC person.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Porps has done some inspirational things on the field (the back half of 2008 when he played through a busted shoulder was unreal) and leads by example, but he is not demonstrative enough to be the captain of the club.

To put it in layman's terms - not quite enough controlled mongrel.

 

[Big Sledge #32]

I'd rather him in the leadership group than many of the current collection.

Not captain though.

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I think that our leadership group is in need of a shake up in order to bring it closer in line with who is going to lead the AFC into the next generation. Luckily with Edwards, Goody, Burton all leaving it leaves some room for new blood.

From a pure outsiders perspective I would like to see Stevens & Doughty out of the group as well, not because I don't like them (because I do), I just think they will be close to the borderline selection wise.

I wouldn't mind a leadership group of Thompson, Rutten, van Berlo, Dangerfield, Knights (if he is still here) & Sloane as well. I think this is full of on field leaders who I feel represents the people who show the most likely traits for our next two captains (Thompson, van Berlo or Rutten next year & one of Danger or Sloane after that 3-4 years down the line).

I also wouldn't mind any of Porps, Reilly, Symes or even Johncock if he felt he was ready.

 

[rooboy]

The direct answer is he is not popular within the playing group. The playing group will never vote for him as captain.

Is this fact? What not enough blonde tips? Even with his poor year, I'd rather see the ball in Porps hands, than our much mooted captain.

 

[KUNG FU]

He just isn't part of the 'in' group at the club. Not disliked, just doesn't put himself out there. Could definitely be in the leadership group by default, but won't be first selected.

2006 QF v Freo, wow, inspirational. Hugely talented, but the full faith and respect of the playing group is the most important factor.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

He just isn't part of the 'in' group at the club. Not disliked, just doesn't put himself out there. Could definitely be in the leadership group by default, but won't be first selected.

2006 QF v Freo, wow, inspirational. Hugely talented, but the full faith and respect of the playing group is the most important factor.

I thought these sorts of cliques and blokey atmosphere didn't exist at our club due to the wonderful culture?

 

[Slippery Pete]

I thought these sorts of cliques and blokey atmosphere didn't exist at our club due to the wonderful culture?

Was it Shaun Rehn that Gary Ayres told to go and wash his car? Did Rehny actually do it? I always get a giggle out of imagining that exchange.

How do you ask another grown man to wash your car?

 

[KUNG FU]

I thought these sorts of cliques and blokey atmosphere didn't exist at our club due to the wonderful culture?

???

You can have a strong culture and have cliques. Porps isn't part of any real cliques, but he'll be a one club player for sure.

 

[Godallblighty]

Porps has done some inspirational things on the field (the back half of 2008 when he played through a busted shoulder was unreal) and leads by example, but he is not demonstrative enough to be the captain of the club.

To put it in layman's terms - not quite enough controlled mongrel.

Well, I understood what you meant by 'not demonstrative enough' (although I'm not sure I agree), but the 'controlled mongrel' makes no sense. That's your criterion for captaincy? What does it mean?

He just isn't part of the 'in' group at the club. Not disliked, just doesn't put himself out there. Could definitely be in the leadership group by default, but won't be first selected.

2006 QF v Freo, wow, inspirational. Hugely talented, but the full faith and respect of the playing group is the most important factor.

Sounds a little insubstantial. I thought you were saying he was unpleasant in some way. You're saying he doesn't have the full faith and respect of the team because he's not Mr Repartee?

 

[KUNG FU]

Sounds a little insubstantial. I thought you were saying he was unpleasant in some way. You're saying he doesn't have the full faith and respect of the team because he's not Mr Repartee?

It's not a big issue. He's just not seen as a captain, simple as that. Take it or leave it.

 

[Godallblighty]

It's not a big issue. He's just not seen as a captain, simple as that. Take it or leave it.

No, not a big issue. Just interested to know why. You and a couple of others seem pretty definite that he's not seen as a captain. I presume you know something about it. From the outside, he seems to have a lot of good qualities.

 

[moogerfooger]

Porps comes across as a classic introvert - not really the personality type who would gravitate towards the captaincy or be considered for it by his peers, even though I'm sure he is well respected.