Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 16

[jac147]

The lack of 'intelligent' analysis in that article by Cameron England is annoying but unsurprising.

Yes, Pirate Life is now owned by a large international company but that acquisition provided the capital that transformed a small 'micro-brewery' into something almost 4 times larger, capable of brewing a host of different products to meet differing and evolving tastes and markets. And, just by the way, is actually delivering on being a part of a long talked about revival of the Port Adelaide area for residents, tourists and other local businesses.

Pirate Life is now everything that the Lion Nathan West End brewery wasn't - savvy, flexible, customer oriented and highly responsive. That's why small companies like Pirate Life are the way of the future, regardless of where their financial capital is coming from.

We should be celebrating the success of Pirate Life as a growing and forward-looking SA company, not using it as part of a derogatory by-line in a sob story about a company that has been in a constant state of decline since the 1970s.
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I like your wishes for the rejuvenation of the Port. Being an inner port it was always going to decline once container ships started up. I hope in my lifetime that the Port will be a “Fremantle”, but they got an immense leg up with the America’s Cup.
It’s the likes of Private Life that will help rejuvenate the Port. There are plenty of heritage type buildings still standing, that with a little bit of tarting up could become the boutiques of Port Adelaide.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I call it dogs piss, it's probably actually much worse than dogs piss, not that I've ever drunk dogs piss. Now that could be a good name for a craft beer.

I went to google this and it's already the name of several craft beers.

 

[Del80659]

i want to drink dog piss, just so i can factually say it's better than west end

 

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[Adz2332]

how can port be favourites to beat Rich fri but rich better odds to win the whole thing?

 

[Doctor Feel]

how can port be favourites to beat Rich fri but rich better odds to win the whole thing?

Money placed over the course of the year.

 

[Ateen7tee]

how can port be favourites to beat Rich fri but rich better odds to win the whole thing?

Based on next 2 weeks..

Even though we're favorites this week, we'd be outsiders against Geelong or Brisbane at the Gabba.

Richmond might be underdogs this week, but if they get through, they'd probably be favourite next week (or at least better odds than if we get through).

 

[OneGreatClub]

Sounds like Kennett would like to get rid of a few teams

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Sounds like Kennett would like to get rid of a few teams

He is more interested in reform of the Commission and the AFL executives than getting rid of teams. That's what Pridham is also mainly after.

 

[Steve Dore]

They will not buy it and build an oval. Its a waste of money and is too expensive.

I was thinking more of the main office building south side of Winwood St and Port Rd corner. Lion will sell the land as a parcel for residential developers, but might hive off the main office building area for sale to the crows, its probably on a different title to the land between Winwood St and the Torrens River. So get the Adelaide Council's approval to do something with an oval on Bonython Park like they were going to do with the oval next to the Aquatics Centre, is the most likely plan if they were considering the site.

The site might not be officially rezoned for residential use, but Port Rd along that stretch was designated a future T.O.D and that's why the tram went in and all part of John Rau's long term development law changes. So it will be a relatively straight forward rezoning move - which the state government will have power over City of West Torrens given the value of any redevelopment and therefore rezoning.

The Coke building has been rezoned as residential. From the Adelaide Review last April.

Slings and Arrows: Coke gets in your eyes – The Adelaide Review

www.adelaidereview.com.au

The February 2017 announcement by Coca Cola Amatil that it would close its Port Road bottling plant at Thebarton was quickly (without much supporting evidence at the time) presumed to relate to nothing else than skyrocketing South Australian power costs. But the Coke folks insisted that it had arisen from a thorough, Australia-wide business analysis concluding that Adelaide was now logistically in the wrong place for them. The bottling will now be done in Queensland.

Logistical? There may have been more to it, but no-one took any notice of a few locals who reckoned they’d worked it out. Former SA Labor Planning Minister, John Rau, had spent the years between 2012 and 2014 radically revising development plan rules for inner-city-rim suburbs, and Thebarton’s Port Road zone is one that saw major new allowances for buildings of greater height and density, exploding development potential there.

Overnight, property and land values for such sites skyrocketed. Coke’s site was 5.2ha. It was revalued at $17m, a lot more than before 2012. That sudden revaluation would have figured large in the Coke folks’ business analysis. Windfall asset sale potential, straight to the bottom line, making the decision to cease running the bottling plant even more tempting. Part of that land was recently sold for a multi-storey residential development.

There may have been other reasons for Coke’s business decisions, too. The plant sat over a pristine water aquifer (as does nearby business South Australian Brewing Co). This is vulnerable to contamination. Years earlier, it was acknowledged that a park-land-edge site a few kilometres east (old rail yards and nearby dumps) contained high-level contamination (hydrocarbon, arsenic and lead, etc). Nine years ago a city council aquifer recharge idea (collecting and storing winter River Torrens stormwater) was resisted by both Port Road businesses because it was feared that it might spread contamination to Thebarton.

Although the plan was eventually dumped, the concept would have been listed under potential future ‘Threats’ section of any fizz business SWOT analysis. Years later, in May 2017, news broke of government warnings of Thebarton groundwater contamination (TCA, a cleaning solvent heavily used before the 1960s). The Coke factory site was one of the identified sites. While there’s no suggestion that any local fizz products were, are, or are likely to be contaminated, it’s difficult to assume that the Coke folks didn’t know about all of the past and present groundwater issues below their site.

Goes to show that when a long-established employer decides to leave town, although power costs might be a powerful impetus, there are often other reasons behind the scenes.

Of course it's too expensive. If the State Government doesn't buy it for them, as the team representing South Australia, they won't touch it.

My response was to your assertion that the site was not big enough for an oval.

 

[Memphis]

Essendon really has clowns doing the negotiating.

 

[Steve Dore]

Essendon really have clowns doing the talking.

CH7 two days late with the "news"

Reported by the Age on Tuesday that Dodoro is being his usual deluded self.

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[Grave Danger]

Essendon really has clowns doing the negotiating.

Carlton should let Mick Gatto handle any negotiations with the Dodo.

 

[Memphis]

Carlton should let Mick Gatto handle any negotiations with the Dodo.

Even Campbell Brown with his comment on the post knows he can do a better job.

 

[Janey]

If Richmond and Geelong get through to the grand final, watch the VFL media carry on about the game being a reward for Victorians after such a tough year. And the winner will be stated to have won the hardest premiership ever. If Port or Brisbane win, it'll be an asterisk.

If Richmond and Geelong get through to the GF, I won't know what the VFL are saying. I will have ceased interest in any football news for the year, (except what comes out of our club).

 

[philthy05]

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Foreign owned multinational who has bought up most of its competition and owns and controls most of the outlets / distributors bemoans lack of brand loyalty while cutting and moving jobs.

You can’t even parody reality any more. It’s beyond absurd.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

No wonder clubs are queuing up outside Bomberland for the fire sale

 

[raman]

how can port be favourites to beat Rich fri but rich better odds to win the whole thing?

I’m gonna make a multi of Port to beat Richmond and Richmond to win the premiership.

 

[gbear]

Sounds like Kennett would like to get rid of a few teams

Should relocate Hawthorn to Tassie

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[El Zorro]

If Richmond and Geelong get through to the GF, I won't know what the VFL are saying. I will have ceased interest in any football news for the year, (except what comes out of our club).

I don't think I'd watch a Richmond-Geelong GF.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I don't think I'd watch a Richmond-Geelong GF.

Would be putrid

 

[Festerz]

I don't think I'd watch a Richmond-Geelong GF.

I would.

My heart would be bleeding but this has been an epic year of sacrifice for all teams.

Any team that makes it to the GF this year deserves respect.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

how can port be favourites to beat Rich fri but rich better odds to win the whole thing?

This isnt that strange. Its two totally different calculations. We dont get a home ground advantage vs a team we do decently against in the grand final.

 

[Del165198]

I would.

My heart would be bleeding but this has been an epic year of sacrifice for all teams.

Any team that makes it to the GF this year deserves respect.

nah stuff em
richmond are campaigners and geelong are probably juiced up

if its geelong vs richmond i will hope for a covid outbreak to stop the game