Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 5 - Cont. in Part 6

[Schulzenfest]

I'm torn between criticising Melbourne players for being snowflakes or criticising Goodwin for basing his coaching style off of the sergeant from Full Metal Jacket and thinking that will achieve results in current year.

It's probably somewhere in between TBH. whycantwehaveboth.jpg

 

[rogerjames]

What a great system. The AFL decides whether or not your appeal is successful or unsuccessful, and the AFL gets a $10k windfall if they decide that it’s unsuccessful. No conflict of interest there.

Just another way they can fix results

 

[Boxx]

Crows look like they may be going to suffer from one of those premiership hangovers... oh wait - thats right...

 

[Deep]

Did lol at Elite Crows main board thread saying most Crows fans thinking Jenkins > Dixon

What fruitloops.

 

[edgie]

If Hawthorn didn't luck out by running in to the Aints for their second flag they could have ended up a nothing club on par with Norf and the Dogs

Sent from mTalk

 

[Visenfest]

I'm torn between criticising Melbourne players for being snowflakes or criticising Goodwin for basing his coaching style off of the sergeant from Full Metal Jacket and thinking that will achieve results in current year.

It's probably somewhere in between TBH. whycantwehaveboth.jpg

I'm just happy that at some point we'll be adding Goodwin to the extensive list of failed Melbourne coaches. He won't get them to a premiership

 

[Power Girl]

I have what is bordering on a pathological dislike for that smug piece of s**t, Goodwin. The daydream of Melbourne never amounting to anything and just missing out always whilst he is in charge would bring me untold joy. I also would like to think that there is some sort of justice in the universe and it would be fitting that the cheating scum that he is would actually never prosper.

Go Melbourne players keep protesting. Delightful.

 

[Andre]

That’s got to wreck coach / player trust. Did the players go to Goodwin with their concerns firstly? If not the coach has lost the players. If they did and it was planned to go ahead anyway, either Goodwin wasn’t able to sell the benefits or the players still looked to bypass the coach. There’s no way you can’t take this as a critical split before the new season.

 

[Steve Dore]

That’s got to wreck coach / player trust. Did the players go to Goodwin with their concerns firstly? If not the coach has lost the players. If they did and it was planned to go ahead anyway, either Goodwin wasn’t able to sell the benefits or the players still looked to bypass the coach. There’s no way you can’t take this as a critical split before the new season.

As I posted in the Watts Makes Powerful Move thread in response to an article Robb wrote, maybe the problem at Melbourne is the coach not being able to get the best out of players such as Watts. This latest episode shows just what a circus their coaching is and as you say, there seems to be a split between the players and Goodwin.

 

[OneGreatClub]

That’s got to wreck coach / player trust. Did the players go to Goodwin with their concerns firstly? If not the coach has lost the players. If they did and it was planned to go ahead anyway, either Goodwin wasn’t able to sell the benefits or the players still looked to bypass the coach. There’s no way you can’t take this as a critical split before the new season.

It's not a good look, that's for sure.

 

[finbarr]

There’s been rumblings about the Melbourne players hating Goodwin for a while now. Maybe they disagree with the way in which he demands certain standards from them while not maintaining similar standards himself. Kind of how Graham Johncock was sanctioned by the crows leadership group for a drinking episode when certain players in that leadership group (Goodwin among them) weren’t exactly angels off field themselves.

 

[Magus]

That smug expression.

 

[Amarula]

As I posted in the Watts Makes Powerful Move thread in response to an article Robb wrote, maybe the problem at Melbourne is the coach not being able to get the best out of players such as Watts. This latest episode shows just what a circus their coaching is and as you say, there seems to be a split between the players and Goodwin.

Well, his supposed lack of something during that commando camp last season was one of their main justifications for delisting Jack Watts. So their loss is our gain.
Might be well worth having a word in Salem's ear at some stage.

 

[Steve Dore]

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That smug expression.

Coke Zero

 

[Schulzenfest]

That’s got to wreck coach / player trust. Did the players go to Goodwin with their concerns firstly? If not the coach has lost the players. If they did and it was planned to go ahead anyway, either Goodwin wasn’t able to sell the benefits or the players still looked to bypass the coach. There’s no way you can’t take this as a critical split before the new season.

This pretty much sums it up. Unless anyone here happened to play for Melbourne last year we don’t know whether the issue is Goodwin being too hard on the players or the players being too soft. But either way it shows a disconnect between players and coach, which isn’t something you want ever, let alone before that coach’s second season has even started.

But anyway it’s good to see that clearing out Jack Watts has fixed up Melbourne’s culture once and for all. Just like GC’s culture was fixed forever by trading out Charlie Dixon.

 

[GremioPower]

This pretty much sums it up. Unless anyone here happened to play for Melbourne last year we don’t know whether the issue is Goodwin being too hard on the players or the players being too soft. But either way it shows a disconnect between players and coach, which isn’t something you want ever, let alone before that coach’s second season has even started.

But anyway it’s good to see that clearing out Jack Watts has fixed up Melbourne’s culture once and for all. Just like GC’s culture was fixed forever by trading out Charlie Dixon.

We could fix some other clubs once and for all too, if they are interested, couldn't we?

 

[LFC2010]

We could fix some other clubs once and for all too, if they are interested, couldn't we?

As long as it's not Adelaide's.

 

[GremioPower]

As long as it's not Adelaide's.

With our record of success, I wouldn't be worried watching Sloane crossing the Great Adelaide Divide...

 

[Mundusa]

With our record of success, I wouldn't be worried watching Sloane crossing the Great Adelaide Divide...

There would be much wailing and gnashing of teeth

 

[GremioPower]

There would be much wailing and gnashing of teeth

I would call them "music"...

 

[Steve Dore]

With our record of success, I wouldn't be worried watching Sloane crossing the Great Adelaide Divide...

Sloane is only going to leave the Crows to return to Melbourne. He is never, ever going to leave the Crows to come to Ports.

 

[Power Girl]

I think that if Rory went to play for the Tiges then I might just achieve a permanent smugface.

 

[Alberton Proud]

TSW

 

[GremioPower]

Sloane is only going to leave the Crows to return to Melbourne. He is never, ever going to leave the Crows to come to Ports.

That's precisely why I've used him as example; someone so "homesick" that wouldn't change his current address after leaving...

 

[Marmozet]

I'd blame all Melbourne's issues on Troy Chaplin.