Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 30

[RussellEbertHandball]

Why not go to 20 teams and have 2 @10 team divisions?
The 10 teams in each division play each other twice = 18 games.

The top 8 teams in each division play a finals series like now.

The grand finalists in division 2 get swapped with the last two teams in division 1 each year.

• 18 x 10 = 180 games plus finals
• gather round can just be one of those 18 rounds
• if rivals are in different divisions then bad luck, they don't play each other twice, but it is a much cleaner option and not simply $ driven

- but boo hoo
{ Anzac Day Collingwood vs Essendon isn't guaranteed anymore }
{ Queens birthday game not guaranteed anymore }

• Division 1 Grand Final played at the MCG
• Division 2 Grand Final played at the home ground of the team finishing higher

- Teams play at each others grounds every year, unlike Eddie's idea or the current situation.

Perhaps this has been suggested already, but it doesn't line Collingwood's pockets and artificially boost their attendances like the current situation.

Under Eddie's idea, why not gear your season towards finishing low and getting good draft picks, but having your team in form from July onwards, why push hard all season, just win 5 or 6 games at the end.

we don't have 20 teams in 2025 or 2026. That is 15 to 20 years away.

 

[VineValerian]

Yep agree. Its not perfect, but its an improvement on what we have.

Why in the hell do we need a qualifying round(s)?
Trying to copy Yank pro sports and their play-in fixtures.
Mindless pap.
You make finals - or you don't. No second chances.

 

[PAFC66]

He talks so much shit and for so long. It is beyond belief. Surely he could be permanently banned on stupidity alone.

You idiot I'm repeating what Hoyne said on SEN. Block your ears all you like

 

[Doctor Feel]

Saw SPP at Marion going into K Mart. Walking with a stiff leg in trackies, ugg boots and an op shop jumper . Hes checked out.

 

[JimmyBC]

Saw SPP at Marion going into K Mart. Walking with a stiff leg in trackies, ugg boots and an op shop jumper . Hes checked out.

That he shops at Kmart increases my respect for him, most cashed up AFL dickheads would rather pay through the nose for mundane items than be seen in Kmart.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

That he shops at Kmart increases my respect for him, most cashed up AFL dickheads would rather pay through the nose for mundane items than be seen in Kmart.

And pay 10x as much for something made in the same factory lol

 

[jdeezy]

McGuire on Footy Classified came up with a lot better alternative to improving the fixture than the stupid suggestion last week to have in season tournament to get some excitement back.

Basically he says to have almost the same number of games as currently have split home an away season into 3 parts.

1) 17 rounds so everyone plays each other once and its flipped the next year so home teams have to play away in year 2. Its better than current situation of playing some teams 4 years in a row either all home games or all away games like at Kardinia Park.

2) What he calls 4 exotic rounds;
a) Blockbuster in Round 1, 10 Vic teams play in Victoria and a nod to state of origin SA teams play WA teams and NSW teams play Qld teams ( scrap Round 0 / Opening Rd and have a big focus on Northern Markets with a round mid season)
b) Gather Round
c) 2 x Rivalry rounds to keep showdowns, derbies etc. The reason he says 2 and not 1 is to get enough games. So Port would play the crows in 1 rivalry round and then over the years rotate who the rival is for the 2nd rivalry game.

3) 2 x Qualifying Rounds before the finals.

Then you have the normal 9 game finals series.

In his graphics he assumed the the top rated team wins, but in week 2 of the qualifying rounds he forgets to include teams 13th and 14th who would play each other but not affect qualifying rounds. When you add that 13th v 14th game you get 214 games a season vs the current 216 games a season.

Its a lot better than what was suggested last week, and I like the fact that it guarantees over every 2 year cycle you play a home and away game against every other team as opposed the the current crap where one team might not play another team away from home for 5 or more years.




As I said above he left 13 v 14 playing in week 2 of qualifying round but they are out of running to make finals. Ill put just the first 2 graphics up so you get an idea before watching the 5 minute video.

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So Eddie's solution to having meaningless dead rubber games at the tail end of the season is to essentially make a good chunk of the season effectively meaningless because basically everyone gets to play in the finals? Push everything to finish first and be not really much better off than 16th place?

There's a couple of points he makes that I quite like - particularly the one about how it would be much more valuable for your bottom teams to play other bottom teams again then trotting them out against top teams to get belted (and to inflate those teams' percentage). It's a joke that the AFL last year have Geelong an easy kill in West Coast for the last round last year and has done it again this year with Richmond. It's a massive compromise on the fixture, and if you could come up with a way to avoid that I'd be all for it. But his suggestions aren't the answer.

Realistically if you're one of the teams like Port this year then yes, it sucks we can't get in to the finals, but we don't deserve to be there, so whatever.

That being said, given the AFL loves the idea of a "wildcard" (despite it not actually being a wildcard), if you desperately wanted to you could introduce an element to the end of the season where the teams with the highest points and percentage in that period that hasn't qualified already get in spots 9 and 10. So even a team like West Coast could theoretically go on a run in the last X amount of weeks and qualify. It would require coming up with some way of making that fixture fair and I'm not sure how it would work but maybe there's an idea there.

I totally agree the fixture needs fixing, and it will require some out there ideas. This isn't it but maybe they will eventually stumble into something.

 

[Buget]

Saw SPP at Marion going into K Mart. Walking with a stiff leg in trackies, ugg boots and an op shop jumper . Hes checked out.

Father of 3 young girls, one of which is a month or old…. He probably does not what day of the week it is at the moment.

 

[Willsy10]

You idiot I'm repeating what Hoyne said on SEN. Block your ears all you like

I think most of us are aware the crows are a decent shot at a flag but so are Brisbane, Collingwood, Geelong, GWS, Hawthorn, even Freo look capable on their day but you and likes of Port Augusta Power and Hinkley Out don’t seem to talk them up at every opportunity that presents itself.

 

[afl2004]

This league is officially dead

 

[TazD]

RIP the Chols Royce.

 

[Port 2004]

I think most of us are aware the crows are a decent shot at a flag but so are Brisbane, Collingwood, Geelong, GWS, Hawthorn, even Freo look capable on their day but you and likes of Port Augusta Power and Hinkley Out don’t seem to talk them up at every opportunity that presents itself.

That is because they are closet Crom supporters.No true Pprt supporter would lean to talking up their arch rival at every opportunity.

 

[JimmyBC]

Oh Vossy this could be the back breaker

 

[TazD]

This league is officially dead

On God, he cooked. Carlton got the fanum tax

 

[Rash]

This game sucks

 

[afl2004]

This league sucks

Fify

 

[JimmyBC]

This game sucks

There is the Voss doom aspect.

 

[Powerade 08]

On God, he cooked. Carlton got the fanum tax

Its the Telstra man celly.

 

[TazD]

Its the Telstra man celly.

ICONIC

 

[Capital Power]

Oh Vossy this could be the back breaker

He's still got 9 years to go...

 

[all seeing eye]

Your going alright when choi cant get a spot, meanwhile were reduced to bringing mcentee in.

 

[Port 2004]

You idiot I'm repeating what Hoyne said on SEN. Block your ears all you like

So what you are always talking shit. And your constant talking up of the corporation is very suspect.

 

[edgie]

The easiest way to make the game slightly better is to bring back the glove.

People want big forwards clunking marks and kicking snags. Give them an advantage in doing that.

Let players wear NFL wide-receiver level grippy gloves, like Tredders and Travis Cloke among others used to wear.

Yeah but only the FF can and they have to play most of the game at FF. Nobody wants intercept defenders taking all the marks.

 

[240volt]

I don’t believe Voss is that bad as a coach, Carlton can’t get it that without a decent defense and reasonable midfield your not winning fk all.

 

[SureBuddy]

Impey is so good now wtf lol