Possible Teague Trade??

[Snoozer]

To get anything of value, you need to trade something of value... I think Teaguey, as good as he has been, could possibly get us an earlyish draft pick or a classy midfielder with some grunt.

Teague has been more than servicable for us, but he is undersized and a bit slow with average skills. He is however tough as nails and loves a contest. I could see a few teams possibly needing his type.

If we kept him, no worries at all... don't mind having him in the side. However I do think that he is expendable and other clubs could be looking to trade a valuable comodity for him.

 

[gandaal]

Here's an idea, how about we keep all our quality players and just get rid of the hacks. Maybe then we can actually start building a team.

 

[big_sav]

hes a long term player for the blues and will not leave.

him and thornton will be in the blues defence for at least the next 5 years

houlihan is the only player we will trade with some sort of class

 

[bibi01]

hes a long term player for the blues and will not leave.

him and thornton will be in the blues defence for at least the next 5 years

houlihan is the only player we will trade with some sort of class

IMO- davies will be shopped around

 

[HBF]

I'm really not sure that we'd get that much for Teague. I do agree, however, that we have to give to get. I've already posted a list of players that i believe could be offered for trade. They are:

Whitnall
Houlihan
Scotland
Sporn

I'd even trade Lappin if we could get the right deal.

 

[celtic_pride]

I'm really not sure that we'd get that much for Teague. I do agree, however, that we have to give to get. I've already posted a list of players that i believe could be offered for trade. They are:

Whitnall
Houlihan
Scotland
Sporn

I'd even trade Lappin if we could get the right deal.

WTF ? Trade Lappin ??? Are you crazy ?
Carlton can't afford to lose one of the only few classy players we've got on the list.

 

[mojo31]

IMO- davies will be shopped around

If we get the priority pick and then we have rounds 1 to 5.
3 guys look like getting promoted from the rookie list from what Pagan said in his interview (Becker, Smith, Setanata).
Perhaps we might do some trades (Whitnall).
The ruckman Batson and Aisake will be kept as rookies and 4 more will be taken.

That leaves 9 players to be cut.

Clarke is a certainity. The rest will be harder to pick but we all know the recycled guys are on thin ice.

 

[stokesy]

We are desperate, there is no doubt about that.

But there is no need to trade Lappin, or Campo and you could even say Lance.

Houlihan, yes please, he would be the perfect trade bait.

Lance is the limit. I'd prefer not to trade him, but if we had too for the best of our club I would.

Teague, well it sounds okay in theory, but no. He is as tough as nails and the only reason he isn't doing that well is because he has been forced to be our No1 backmen. When he should be our 3rd or 4th, even 5, backmen.

 

[Snoozer]

We are desperate, there is no doubt about that.

But there is no need to trade Lappin, or Campo and you could even say Lance.

Houlihan, yes please, he would be the perfect trade bait.

Lance is the limit. I'd prefer not to trade him, but if we had too for the best of our club I would.

Teague, well it sounds okay in theory, but no. He is as tough as nails and the only reason he isn't doing that well is because he has been forced to be our No1 backmen. When he should be our 3rd or 4th, even 5, backmen.

Were the Houlihan brothers molested as kids??? All of them seem to be too scared to have contact with a man.

 

[Snoozer]

Teague definitely has a place in the Carlton side, no doubt about that. But is his place as 3rd defender after Livo and Thornton really that critical?? Could it be filled by a player of similar stature?? Teague definitely has qualities in that he can step up and fill the void if either of the above are injured.

What I would be looking for as a trade would be a Brent Moloney type midfielder... maybe that's a tad optimistic.

 

[mojo31]

Teague definitely has a place in the Carlton side, no doubt about that. But is his place as 3rd defender after Livo and Thornton really that critical?? Could it be filled by a player of similar stature?? Teague definitely has qualities in that he can step up and fill the void if either of the above are injured.

What I would be looking for as a trade would be a Brent Moloney type midfielder... maybe that's a tad optimistic.

Teague for Steven Armstrong from Melbourne. He is 21 and looks reasonable and will improve some more. Just cant get a game in a strong Dees midfield.
Lance for a pick of 15 to 20.
Keep everyone else (of quality) and see how they go next year.

 

[stokesy]

Were the Houlihan brothers molested as kids??? All of them seem to be too scared to have contact with a man.

Great call, love it.

 

[Waite_30]

Here's an idea, how about we keep all our quality players and just get rid of the hacks. Maybe then we can actually start building a team.

Then we would be getting rid of 3/4 of the team

 

[deestroyerz]

blueboyss get a grip. a desperate team needs to do risky and desperate things. armstrong is good trade bait and i do not think he is in our best 22 unless we have serious injury problems. justin davies should be shopped around i think. try and trade whitnall then bring up setanta. then use the highest draft pick to get a good strong crash and bash centre half forward.

 

[Free Willy]

Edited by Moderator

It was only his opinion.

He rather eloquently put forward his reasons.

FWIW I actually dont agree with them.

You however managed to make youself look foolish with your uneducated & unsubstantiated response.

 

[mojo31]

It was only his opinion.

He rather eloquently put forward his reasons.

FWIW I actually dont agree with them.

You however managed to make youself look foolish with your uneducated & unsubstantiated response.

Trading away reasonable players in Whitnall, Houlihan and Teague is not because they cant play. It is to try and get players who will benefit the team more in a swap or to get trade picks.
To be honest I know that you need a mix of youth and experience but if they put a line through a heap of them and got 7 or 8 picks in the top 30 at the end of they year I would be stoked.
The draft this year looks pretty even and with that amount of picks you would get some very good prospects. There will not be a standout Riewoldt type player so a picks from 20 to 30 are almost as good as picks in the top 10.
If they could trade Whitnall, Holihan and Teague all for picks. Keep the ones we will get. We might only win aas many games next year as this but we would be heading in the right direction. We would be more competitive and Pagan would have players who he can teach to be accountable and team oriented.
Lets take Ellis for a start and let him finish his schooling. Murphy if he wants to stay in Victoria. Drum in a later pick if available. Hurn if he gets over his oestitus pubis if he does not want to play cricket.
Take a punt with a few others. Clark comes to mind as a very tall athlete who does many things wrong. Better than a player who does evrything reasonable but is 190cms and has no upside.

It is pretty obviuos from watching the team in the last 8 games that there is no desire to play as a team and we carry to many players. We all here know who they are. Same guys every week.
Look at a guy like Chris Bryan. He tries so hard and makes so many other players look embarrassing in comparison. I know he might never make it as a good ruckman but his endeavour and passion is what is lacking more than anything else. Walker and Waite have it also. Young guys who have the attitude to be very good players.
Lets draft as many young kids as we can and get rid of some players who are not willing to make the sacrifices needed for the team.
Setanta has it in spades. Needs more time but players of his character and ambition are what we need.

 

[TheBlueblood]

Players with heart and courage are hard to find these days!! Damn teagey isnt the most skillfull player going around but he gives his all everytime he hits the oval...

our problem lies in our half forward/half back lines !!!!

solve that and we are in the mixl

 

[mojo31]

Players with heart and courage are hard to find these days!! Damn teagey isnt the most skillfull player going around but he gives his all everytime he hits the oval...

our problem lies in our half forward/half back lines !!!!

solve that and we are in the mixl

I dont know who you are watching but for me those lines are okay. The midfield is where the problems are. We dont have enough inside midfielders to win the hard ball or enough skilled outside runners to break the line and deliver it. Time to go to the draft and find them. Ellis and Murphy and Hurn are the 3 they should look at if available.
Russell, Smith and Bentick for next year. Betts perhaps after a pre season. PSD for someone under 25 who will help in that area. The games are won there.

The spine is pretty good for a bottom side. Waite, Fevola, Thornton and Livingston are all young and improving. Whitnall can be traded for a player or draft picks. Bryan is at worst a decent back up and Fench is a quality player.
Raso, Hartlett, Fisher and Setanta are all options for us next year as talls.
We need 10 or so midfielder types brought into the club over the next 2 years in the draft to replace the recycled guys who are not up to it.

 

[melbournemartin]

perhaps 2nd round pick + armstrong? that guy has loads of talent just dun show it enough. im sure he could if he was given a better chance though.

i'd kill for a quality small defender

 

[mojo31]

perhaps 2nd round pick + armstrong? that guy has loads of talent just dun show it enough. im sure he could if he was given a better chance though.

i'd kill for a quality small defender

I thought Whelan and Brown were good players but Farmer and Matera cut your side up very badly. Carrazzo is the player you need from Carlton but he will not be traded. He is tough, good size and very disciplined.
Armstrong for a straight swap for Teague sounds fair.

 

[Teagson]

Those who think Teague should be traded and even those who think an Armstrong deal is fair are seriously deranged.

Why on Earth do we want to pick up another reject? If he can't make it at the top clubs, then I do not want him!

Teague is also one of our more consistent players and continues to put 100% in every game, unlike some others I could name. His determination and courage are inspirational. Players of his calibre aren't easy to find.

 

[Lajon]

Those who think Teague should be traded and even those who think an Armstrong deal is fair are seriously deranged.

Why on Earth do we want to pick up another reject? If he can't make it at the top clubs, then I do not want him!
Teague is also one of our more consistent players and continues to put 100% in every game, unlike some others I could name. His determination and courage are inspirational. Players of his calibre aren't easy to find.

It's a lot harder to get into the side in a top club then it is a bottom, so it doesn't actually mean anything necessarily negative about the player.

 

[Teagson]

It's a lot harder to get into the side in a top club then it is a bottom

Agree.

so it doesn't actually mean anything necessarily negative about the player.

If he were good enough he'd be in the side.

I personally would rather take a punt on a high draft pick than attempt to acquire these second tier players. After all, Bruce and Hird were both high selections and yet turned out to be stars. Why on Earth do we need another Longmuir or Chambers?

 

[iluvparis]

Great call, love it.

agreed

I don't think Teague is the kind of player that is great trade bait. If I was another club he would be the type of player I would look to make a steal out of. An old example I can think of is Dean Rice. Wouldn't have been good trade bait but played a great role for us

 

[oaksy]

Those who think Teague should be traded and even those who think an Armstrong deal is fair are seriously deranged.

Why on Earth do we want to pick up another reject? If he can't make it at the top clubs, then I do not want him!

Teague is also one of our more consistent players and continues to put 100% in every game, unlike some others I could name. His determination and courage are inspirational. Players of his calibre aren't easy to find.

what do u think teague was before he came to the blues.