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Doesn't affect us so I dont really care. Milera the only possibility of impacting on us, if we intend on taking him at 13? I think McKay will be taken at 13 anyway. Pick 9 will probably be a midfielder given we are getting Menzel.Bulldogs now making a play for Lobbe, I've got a bad feeling Port will get something good out of this
Doesn't matter. The contract extension and them then bailing his game is a massive fail. Interested if they will go back on their word.Bulldogs now making a play for Lobbe, I've got a bad feeling Port will get something good out of this
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I think the issue is O'Brien may not be ready for the AFL. If Jacobs goes down then it will be trial by fire and we will soon know (although we still have Lowden too yeah?).And what matured ruck were we going to get that was worth getting? Reilly O'Brien already beats the SANFL ones and he's 20.
He hasn't had a pre season yet ...hold fire or look sillyMatt Crouch will never be an AA selection (Thompson 2012), nor will he ever win a club B&F (Thompson 2011, 2012). He's just not that good.
No because it'll be WADA WADA WADA.
They want enough time to land a big fish.Why 60 minutes? There's still a whole day of the trade period to go

Wasted talent immediately overlooked after contract extension.Need insurance in case Ryder gets suspended (WADA)

It wouldnt surprise me if Dr Krieger has said it thoughI'd rather whip a boy with talent.
Never thought I'd say that sentence.
Port will certainly give his knee a thorough examinationCant wait to see him (Menzel) in a crows jumper and kick his first goal against Port!

Lunchbreak?Stand down people. Still 60 mins to go on this one!
he is a gun of a ruck men........very capable, not as good as sauce but definitely top 5 in the AFLA gun?
I reckon people on here will find Menzel pretty frustrating.
I will even predict he will become a whipping boy for some.
Tough position to be in. They got no depth in the ruck spot. If Ryder goes down then they are SOL without Lobbe. May as well hold on to him for another year.If Port didn't take 12 for Lobbe they are completely nuts....
They might as well extend Hartlet's contract to 2038
The point is you have no idea. I bet you said the same thing about Sloane after 2 yearsHis ceiling is closer to Tyson Edwards. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges, given that Edwards wasn't an inside mid, but he's the closest I can come up with to make my point. Edwards was a really good player, but he was never in the running for the B&F, nor was he a Brownlow Medal contender (Thompson finished equal 4th in 2012), nor was he ever in contention for AA selection.
I'm expecting Crouch to be a good player, who has a long and health AFL career. He's just never going to be in that top echelon, the way that Thompson was at his peak in 2011/2012.

No doubt. Its a good trade.Agreed.
That said, posters like you and I who tend to hold pretty similar views on most things AFC would acknowledge that these are the types of trades we've been screaming out for.
For mine, if we deal Kerridge + 28 for Menzel then it's a no risk high reward strategy. The kid oozes talent and hasn't flourished in his current environment with a pissweak culture and a vacuum of leadership.
I'm rationalising it like this: I'm sure there were times when cats fans wanted to throttle Stevie J too but he countered that with sheer brilliance. I hope Menz will be a similar beast for us. If he busts, meh - we tried and spent not much in doing so. If he fulfills his potential then we've pulled off highway robbery.
Pricey.Matt Rosa traded to Gold Coast for Pick 31