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POTY Round 8 v Western Bulldogs

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5. Goodes
4. Smith
3. McVeigh
2. Kennedy
1. Shaw

YPOTY: Smith
 
5. Goodes - played a lone hand up front.
4. McVeigh - gave his best.
3. Smith - it takes a good player to shut down an in form Gia
2. Mattner - our best defender on the day
1. Kennedy - I like him more and more each week
 
What's with all the Smith love? I mean, I'm a huge fan, and he was good, but top 5? BOG? He broke even with Gia at best. He was good, but he has played better for us before.

5. Goodes
4. McVeigh
3. Kennedy
2. J. Bolton
1. Shaw

YPOTY: Kennedy
 
What's with all the Smith love? I mean, I'm a huge fan, and he was good, but top 5? BOG? He broke even with Gia at best. He was good, but he has played better for us before.

TBH not many of our players broke even with their opponent. To do it with the doggies most inform player is an outstanding job. If we 'broke even' with a few more of them maybe we wouldn't have lost so pitifully.
 

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Broke even? He ended the form run of arguably the most inform player in the comp.

And did nothing himself. Don't get me wrong, for a kid of his experience he did very well, but if you consider total output, all he did was turn a very in-form player into just another contributor, while contributing very little himself. Gia still had 15 touches. Smith had 9. If Smith had done more to hurt the Dogs, then yeah, he'd be one of our best, but Gia still contributed more than Smith.

I'll take Kennedy's game, in which he had a number of fantastic touches in close and won 5 clearances, or Shaw's game, in which he provided drive off half-back all day long and never ever gave up, over Smith's. It's not a knock on Smith, I LOVE him as a player, but his was a good solid effort on a very good player, rather than a standout performance.
 
And did nothing himself. Don't get me wrong, for a kid of his experience he did very well, but if you consider total output, all he did was turn a very in-form player into just another contributor, while contributing very little himself. Gia still had 15 touches. Smith had 9. If Smith had done more to hurt the Dogs, then yeah, he'd be one of our best, but Gia still contributed more than Smith.

I'll take Kennedy's game, in which he had a number of fantastic touches in close and won 5 clearances, or Shaw's game, in which he provided drive off half-back all day long and never ever gave up, over Smith's. It's not a knock on Smith, I LOVE him as a player, but his was a good solid effort on a very good player, rather than a standout performance.

Your argument is flawed. Smith isn't there to rack them up for himself, its not his job. You have to rate people on their ability to do their job and everything else is a bonus. Shaw tried hard and gathered possies, but turned it over so many times it was ridiculous. I love Joey :heart:. His clearance work is really good and he's very good in a contest, but he overcooked some hand passes and I thought that detracted from his game. There wasn't a lot separating him and smith in terms of performance, but you shouldn't underestimate Smith's game on the w/e.

Each to their own though, that's we we all have the ability to put in a vote. :)
 
And did nothing himself. Don't get me wrong, for a kid of his experience he did very well, but if you consider total output, all he did was turn a very in-form player into just another contributor, while contributing very little himself. Gia still had 15 touches. Smith had 9. If Smith had done more to hurt the Dogs, then yeah, he'd be one of our best, but Gia still contributed more than Smith.

I'll take Kennedy's game, in which he had a number of fantastic touches in close and won 5 clearances, or Shaw's game, in which he provided drive off half-back all day long and never ever gave up, over Smith's. It's not a knock on Smith, I LOVE him as a player, but his was a good solid effort on a very good player, rather than a standout performance.

He was given a pure stopping role on one of their most damaging players. Not everything in this game is about Sexy flash play or thirty possessions. It's not decided on a head a head of who touched it most it's about measuring impact Gia had NONE. Smith won the contest with Gia hands down, one of our few who did.
 
Your argument is flawed. Smith isn't there to rack them up for himself, its not his job. You have to rate people on their ability to do their job and everything else is a bonus. Shaw tried hard and gathered possies, but turned it over so many times it was ridiculous. I love Joey :heart:. His clearance work is really good and he's very good in a contest, but he overcooked some hand passes and I thought that detracted from his game. There wasn't a lot separating him and smith in terms of performance, but you shouldn't underestimate Smith's game on the w/e.

Each to their own though, that's we we all have the ability to put in a vote. :)

He was given a pure stopping role on one of their most damaging players. Not everything in this game is about Sexy flash play or thirty possessions. It's not decided on a head a head of who touched it most it's about measuring impact Gia had NONE. Smith won the contest with Gia hands down, one of our few who did.

Yes, and he did his stopping role fairly well, not amazingly well. If a bloke is given a pure stopping role and has no influence himself, to be one of our best his opponent would have to have basically no influence. Smith was solid, but Gia was still popping up here and there and creating. He curbed Gia's influence, he didn't stop it, and while that's handy, it's not enough to make the bests.
 

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